Altar farming - Revision history

Umbire the Phantom: potholes

2026-01-08T21:39:47Z

potholes

Umbire the Phantom: some copy edit

2024-09-23T15:37:12Z

some copy edit

Furey: Mention Mitre of Holiness. Fix markup on dragon breath. Fix crowning (it does not happen from offering). Mention altar misuse to lower alignment record. Update to {{nethack-367}}.

2024-07-08T21:47:36Z

Mention Mitre of Holiness. Fix markup on dragon breath. Fix crowning (it does not happen from offering). Mention altar misuse to lower alignment record. Update to {{nethack-367}}.

Umbire the Phantom: in the spirit of "let's not fucking do that" (also potholes + ver + lede)

2023-10-29T23:50:23Z

in the spirit of "let's not fucking do that" (also potholes + ver + lede)

K2: Reverted edits by MrSurvivor1997 (talk) to last revision by Actual-nh

2023-01-06T18:34:31Z

Reverted edits by MrSurvivor1997 (talk) to last revision by Actual-nh

MrSurvivor1997: Altars can be constantly returned to for BUC identification as part of this strategy.

2023-01-06T18:24:40Z

Altars can be constantly returned to for BUC identification as part of this strategy.

Actual-nh: /* Description */ Grammar/style

2021-06-14T18:14:43Z

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2021-06-14T18:13:44Z

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Umbire the Phantom: This needs a lot of work, can only offer this as a start right this moment

2021-06-14T07:01:25Z

This needs a lot of work, can only offer this as a start right this moment

Aximili: Change category

2021-05-21T14:40:54Z

Change category

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 * Being on a lower [[dungeon level]] or having a higher [[experience level]] (makes stronger monsters spawn)
-* Using [[Wand of create monster|wands]] or [[Scroll of create monster|scrolls of create monster]], the [[spell of create monster]], or a [[bag of tricks]] to manually create monsters.
+* Using [[Wand of create monster|wands]] or [[scrolls of create monster]], the {{+ of|create monster}} spell, or a [[bag of tricks]] to manually create monsters.
 ** [[Scrolls of charging]] and [[The Platinum Yendorian Express Card]] increase the uses available from the wand and bag, and [[The Eye of the Aethiopica]] or [[The Mitre of Holiness]] allow the spell to be cast frequently
 * Having a [[werecreature]] summon help or a spellcasting monster cast the [[summon nasties]] [[monster spell]]
-* Being [[chaotic]] (allows for [[Sacrifice#Sacrificing creatures of own race|same-race sacrifices]])
+* Being [[chaotic]] (allows for [[same-race sacrifice]]s)
 Of course, just because you can create an extremely high number of monsters doesn't mean you'll live to sacrifice them all - various monsters that are either horrifically strong or else capable of instantly killing you must dealt with promptly. Other tools must also be on hand to manage all their [[death drop]]s:

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 * Being on a lower [[dungeon level]] or having a higher [[experience level]] (makes stronger monsters spawn)
 * Using [[Wand of create monster|wands]] or [[Scroll of create monster|scrolls of create monster]], the [[spell of create monster]], or a [[bag of tricks]] to manually create monsters.
-** [[Scroll of charging|Scrolls of charging]] and [[The Platinum Yendorian Express Card]] increase the uses available from the wand and bag, and [[The Eye of the Aethiopica]] or [[The Mitre of Holiness]] allow the spell to be cast frequently
+** [[Scrolls of charging]] and [[The Platinum Yendorian Express Card]] increase the uses available from the wand and bag, and [[The Eye of the Aethiopica]] or [[The Mitre of Holiness]] allow the spell to be cast frequently
 * Having a [[werecreature]] summon help or a spellcasting monster cast the [[summon nasties]] [[monster spell]]
 * Being [[chaotic]] (allows for [[Sacrifice#Sacrificing creatures of own race|same-race sacrifices]])
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 ==Sacrificing for gifts==
-One of the benefits that can be gained from altar farming is [[Sacrifice#Gifts|sacrifice gifts]]; with the extremely high number of sacrifices coming in, [[Artifact_weapon|artifact weapons]] are much easier to come across, and you can get multiple in case you don’t get the one you want. Of course, the more gifts you receive, the longer it’ll take for you to get your next one. [[Grayswandir]], [[Vorpal Blade]], [[Magicbane]], [[Fire and Frost Brand|Fire/Frost Brand]], and [[Stormbringer]] are all in reasonable reach with the use of altar farming.
+One of the benefits that can be gained from altar farming is [[Sacrifice#Gifts|sacrifice gifts]]; with the extremely high number of sacrifices coming in, [[Artifact_weapon|artifact weapons]] are much easier to come across, and you can get multiple in case you don’t get the one you want. Of course, the more gifts you receive, the longer it’ll take for you to get your next one. [[Grayswandir]], [[Vorpal Blade]], [[Magicbane]], [[Fire Brand]], [[Frost Brand]], and [[Stormbringer]] are all in reasonable reach with the use of altar farming.
 ==Sacrificing to pray==
-The other benefit of altar farming is that it can very quickly get rid of your [[prayer timeout]] so you can repeatedly pray for [[Prayer#Favors_and_gifts|gifts, favors, and other boons]]. The ones that are the most worth pursuing include:
+The other benefit of altar farming is that it can very quickly lower your [[prayer timeout]] so you can repeatedly pray for [[Prayer#Favors_and_gifts|gifts, favors, and other boons]]. The ones that are the most worth pursuing include:
-* Removing [[Beatitude|curses]] without spending [[holy water]]
+* Removing [[curses]] without spending [[holy water]]
 * Increasing your max HP (by bringing yourself to low HP before praying)
 * Gaining intrinsic [[telepathy]], [[speed]], [[stealth]] and [[intrinsic protection]]

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 * Being on a lower [[dungeon level]] or having a higher [[experience level]] (makes stronger monsters spawn)
 * Using [[Wand of create monster|wands]] or [[Scroll of create monster|scrolls of create monster]], the [[spell of create monster]], or a [[bag of tricks]] to manually create monsters.
-** [[Scroll of charging|Scrolls of charging]] and [[The Platinum Yendorian Express Card]] increase the uses available from the wand and bag, and [[The Eye of the Aethiopica]] allows the spell to be cast frequently
+** [[Scroll of charging|Scrolls of charging]] and [[The Platinum Yendorian Express Card]] increase the uses available from the wand and bag, and [[The Eye of the Aethiopica]] or [[The Mitre of Holiness]] allow the spell to be cast frequently
 * Having a [[werecreature]] summon help or a spellcasting monster cast the [[summon nasties]] [[monster spell]]
 * Being [[chaotic]] (allows for [[Sacrifice#Sacrificing creatures of own race|same-race sacrifices]])
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 * [[Gloves]] to handle [[Cockatrice|cockatrice corpses]]
 * [[Magic resistance]] to resist the [[Destroy armor (monster spell)|destroy armor]] and [[curse items]] monster spells
-* [[Reflection]] to resist [[attack wand]]s and [[dragon]] breath]]
+* [[Reflection]] to resist [[attack wand]]s and [[dragon]] [[breath]]
 * [[Escape item]]s if too many monsters spawn or the ones spawned are too much to handle
 * A [[container]] for storing useful death drops and keeping them out of monsters’ hands
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 * Obtaining [[spellbooks]] (you’ll usually get ones in schools you’re not restricted in)
-Staying at a high enough level of [[luck]] for the best outcomes usually involves carrying around a [[luckstone]], but be careful! If your luck’s too high, there’s a chance you’ll get [[crowned]] instead, greatly slowing down the rate at which you can pray. Once you're at max luck, you can avoid crowning by breaking a [[mirror]] and putting away your luckstone before praying, and by not making sacrifices once your prayer timeout has expired.  You can also prevent crowning (even with maximum luck) by ensuring that your [[alignment record]] is below 20 when you pray.  This can be checked by using a [[stethoscope]], [[wand of probing]], or [[enlightenment]] on yourself and ensuring that you are not piously aligned.
+Staying at a high enough level of [[luck]] for the best outcomes usually involves carrying around a [[luckstone]], but be careful! If your luck’s too high, there’s a chance you’ll get [[crowned]] instead, greatly slowing down the rate at which you can pray. Once you're at max luck, you can avoid crowning by breaking a [[mirror]] and putting away your luckstone before praying. You can also prevent crowning (even with maximum luck) by ensuring that your [[alignment record]] is below 20 when you pray. You can accomplish this by [[altar#Misusing an altar|misusing an altar]], and check your alignment record with a [[stethoscope]], [[wand of probing]], or [[enlightenment]] on yourself and ensuring that you are not piously aligned.
-{{nethack-366}}
+{{nethack-367}}
 [[Category:Farming]]

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-'''Altar farming''', sometimes referred to as '''altar scumming''' in more extreme forms, is the act of camping by an [[altar]] within the [[Mazes of Menace]] for an inordinate amount of time for the purpose of obtaining numerous [[sacrifice gift]]s and [[favor]]s. As with some other forms of [[farming]], some players may consider this to be against the spirit of the game.
+In ''[[NetHack]]'', '''altar farming''', sometimes referred to as '''altar scumming''' in more extreme forms, is the act of camping by an [[altar]] within the [[Mazes of Menace]] for an inordinate amount of time for the purpose of obtaining numerous [[sacrifice gift]]s and [[favor]]s. As with some other forms of [[farming]], some players may consider this to be against the spirit of the game.
 ==Description==
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 * Being [[chaotic]] (allows for [[Sacrifice#Sacrificing creatures of own race|same-race sacrifices]])
-Of course, just because you can create an extremely high number of monsters [[Archon|doesn’t]] [[Ki-rin|mean]] [[Titan|you’ll]] [[Angel|live]] [[Lich#Arch-lich|to]] [[Dragon#Black_dragon|sacrifice]] [[Wand_of_death|them]] [[Touch_of_death|all]]. Other tools must also be on hand to kill them and manage all their [[Death_drop|death drops]]:
+Of course, just because you can create an extremely high number of monsters doesn't mean you'll live to sacrifice them all - various monsters that are either horrifically strong or else capable of instantly killing you must dealt with promptly. Other tools must also be on hand to manage all their [[death drop]]s:
-* Low [[Armor_class|AC]] to take numerous strong physical attacks
+* Low [[AC]] to take numerous strong physical attacks
 * A strong [[weapon]] to kill monsters quickly
 ** Sacrificing can give you an [[artifact weapon]] to use for further farming
 * [[Gloves]] to handle [[Cockatrice|cockatrice corpses]]
-* [[Magic resistance]] to resist the [[Destroy armor (monster spell)|destroy armor]] and [[Curse_items|curse items]] monster spells
+* [[Magic resistance]] to resist the [[Destroy armor (monster spell)|destroy armor]] and [[curse items]] monster spells
-* [[Reflection]] to resist [[Attack_wand|attack wands]] and [[Dragon|dragons’ breath]]
+* [[Reflection]] to resist [[attack wand]]s and [[dragon]] breath]]
 * [[Escape item]]s if too many monsters spawn or the ones spawned are too much to handle
 * A [[container]] for storing useful death drops and keeping them out of monsters’ hands
 * Means of curing [[lycanthropy]] if using werecreatures for farming
-* Plenty of [[Comestible|food]] or a [[ring of slow digestion]] if you’re following a food-related [[Conduct#Vegan|conduct]]
+* Plenty of [[food]] or a [[ring of slow digestion]] if you’re following a food-related [[Conduct#Vegan|conduct]]
 ** Food also helps save corpses for sacrificing that you’d otherwise have to eat (unless you want their [[Corpse#Gaining_intrinsics|intrinsics]])
 ==Sacrificing for gifts==
-One of the benefits that can be gained from altar farming is [[Sacrifice#Gifts|sacrifice gifts]]; with the extremely high number of sacrifices coming in, [[Artifact_weapon|artifact weapons]] are much easier to come across, and you can get multiple in case you don’t get the one you want. Of course, the more gifts you receive, the longer it’ll take for you to get your next one. [[Grayswandir]], [[Vorpal Blade]], [[Magicbane]], [[Fire_and_Frost_Brand|Fire/Frost Brand]], and [[Stormbringer]] are all in reasonable reach with the use of altar farming.
+One of the benefits that can be gained from altar farming is [[Sacrifice#Gifts|sacrifice gifts]]; with the extremely high number of sacrifices coming in, [[Artifact_weapon|artifact weapons]] are much easier to come across, and you can get multiple in case you don’t get the one you want. Of course, the more gifts you receive, the longer it’ll take for you to get your next one. [[Grayswandir]], [[Vorpal Blade]], [[Magicbane]], [[Fire and Frost Brand|Fire/Frost Brand]], and [[Stormbringer]] are all in reasonable reach with the use of altar farming.
 ==Sacrificing to pray==
 The other benefit of altar farming is that it can very quickly get rid of your [[prayer timeout]] so you can repeatedly pray for [[Prayer#Favors_and_gifts|gifts, favors, and other boons]]. The ones that are the most worth pursuing include:
-* Removing [[BUC#Cursed_items|curses]] without spending [[Potion_of_holy_water|holy water]]
+* Removing [[Beatitude|curses]] without spending [[holy water]]
 * Increasing your max HP (by bringing yourself to low HP before praying)
-* Gaining intrinsic [[telepathy]], [[speed]], [[stealth]] and [[Intrinsic_protection|protection]]
+* Gaining intrinsic [[telepathy]], [[speed]], [[stealth]] and [[intrinsic protection]]
 * Obtaining [[spellbooks]] (you’ll usually get ones in schools you’re not restricted in)
 Staying at a high enough level of [[luck]] for the best outcomes usually involves carrying around a [[luckstone]], but be careful! If your luck’s too high, there’s a chance you’ll get [[crowned]] instead, greatly slowing down the rate at which you can pray. Once you're at max luck, you can avoid crowning by breaking a [[mirror]] and putting away your luckstone before praying, and by not making sacrifices once your prayer timeout has expired.  You can also prevent crowning (even with maximum luck) by ensuring that your [[alignment record]] is below 20 when you pray.  This can be checked by using a [[stethoscope]], [[wand of probing]], or [[enlightenment]] on yourself and ensuring that you are not piously aligned.
+{{nethack-366}}
 [[Category:Farming]]

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-'''Altar farming''', sometimes referred to as '''altar scumming''' in more extreme forms, is the act of camping by an [[altar]] within the [[Mazes of Menace]] for an inordinate amount of time for the purpose of obtaining numerous [[sacrifice gift]]s and [[favor]]s. As with some other forms of [[farming]], some players may consider this to be against the spirit of the game. But even there, altar farming does have it’s limits that may make this claim obsolete.
+'''Altar farming''', sometimes referred to as '''altar scumming''' in more extreme forms, is the act of camping by an [[altar]] within the [[Mazes of Menace]] for an inordinate amount of time for the purpose of obtaining numerous [[sacrifice gift]]s and [[favor]]s. As with some other forms of [[farming]], some players may consider this to be against the spirit of the game.
 ==Description==
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 Staying at a high enough level of [[luck]] for the best outcomes usually involves carrying around a [[luckstone]], but be careful! If your luck’s too high, there’s a chance you’ll get [[crowned]] instead, greatly slowing down the rate at which you can pray. Once you're at max luck, you can avoid crowning by breaking a [[mirror]] and putting away your luckstone before praying, and by not making sacrifices once your prayer timeout has expired.  You can also prevent crowning (even with maximum luck) by ensuring that your [[alignment record]] is below 20 when you pray.  This can be checked by using a [[stethoscope]], [[wand of probing]], or [[enlightenment]] on yourself and ensuring that you are not piously aligned.
 [[Category:Farming]]

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 ==Description==
-While [[monster creation]] does happen over time, but normally not fast enough for the purposes of altar farming. Players who want to try altar farming will usually need a way to spawn a large number of strong monsters very quickly. Useful tools for accomplishing this include:
+[[Monster creation]] does happen over time, but normally not fast enough for the purposes of altar farming. Players who want to try altar farming will usually need a way to spawn a large number of strong monsters very quickly. Useful tools for accomplishing this include:
 * Being on a lower [[dungeon level]] or having a higher [[experience level]] (makes stronger monsters spawn)

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	Staying at a high enough level of [[luck]] for the best outcomes usually involves carrying around a [[luckstone]], but be careful! If your luck’s too high, there’s a chance you’ll get [[crowned]] instead, greatly slowing down the rate at which you can pray. Once you're at max luck, you can avoid crowning by breaking a [[mirror]] and putting away your luckstone before praying, and by not making sacrifices once your prayer timeout has expired. You can also prevent crowning (even with maximum luck) by ensuring that your [[alignment record]] is below 20 when you pray. This can be checked by using a [[stethoscope]], [[wand of probing]], or [[enlightenment]] on yourself and ensuring that you are not piously aligned.		Staying at a high enough level of [[luck]] for the best outcomes usually involves carrying around a [[luckstone]], but be careful! If your luck’s too high, there’s a chance you’ll get [[crowned]] instead, greatly slowing down the rate at which you can pray. Once you're at max luck, you can avoid crowning by breaking a [[mirror]] and putting away your luckstone before praying, and by not making sacrifices once your prayer timeout has expired. You can also prevent crowning (even with maximum luck) by ensuring that your [[alignment record]] is below 20 when you pray. This can be checked by using a [[stethoscope]], [[wand of probing]], or [[enlightenment]] on yourself and ensuring that you are not piously aligned.
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		+	[[Category:Farming]]