Apport - Revision history

Furey: Update link from statslab to evasroguelikegamessite.

2024-06-12T15:37:16Z

Update link from statslab to evasroguelikegamessite.

Cocomocha: Fixed spelling

2024-04-29T14:20:13Z

Fixed spelling

Umbire the Phantom: adjust heavily-qualified statement (some people are fine tanking the penalties for killing shopkeepers or letting pets do it)

2024-01-31T00:38:27Z

adjust heavily-qualified statement (some people are fine tanking the penalties for killing shopkeepers or letting pets do it)

MrSurvivor1997: /* Strategy */ It’s the simplest way to steal from shops.

2024-01-31T00:19:35Z

‎Strategy: It’s the simplest way to steal from shops.

Cathartes: update refs for 3.6.6; delete carrying capacity table because it was wrong, in favor of linking related article in "See also"; refs for dog command in other languages

2022-02-06T20:40:57Z

update refs for 3.6.6; delete carrying capacity table because it was wrong, in favor of linking related article in "See also"; refs for dog command in other languages

Cathartes: /* Description */ initial apport is based on charisma

2021-12-05T08:37:54Z

‎Description: initial apport is based on charisma

Umbire the Phantom: "The verb "apport" typically does not appear in dictionaries of the English language" and meanwhile my first result is Merriam-Webster. Either previous editors weren't being thorough and/or this article's age is showing - I wager both

2021-05-05T04:50:02Z

"The verb "apport" typically does not appear in dictionaries of the English language" and meanwhile my first result is Merriam-Webster. Either previous editors weren't being thorough and/or this article's age is showing - I wager both

Actual-nh: /* Etymology */ Wikipedia also mentions use for tribute

2021-05-04T00:17:29Z

‎Etymology: Wikipedia also mentions use for tribute

Olddole: capacity depends on corpse wt. Cats/dogs corpse were nutritions

2017-07-20T02:58:58Z

capacity depends on corpse wt. Cats/dogs corpse were nutritions

94.109.91.135 at 22:24, 9 November 2014

2014-11-09T22:24:22Z

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 ==See also==
-* Eva Myers' excellent spoiler for [http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~eva/nethack/pets2.html Keeping and Training Pets in NetHack and SLASH'EM]
+* Eva Myers' excellent spoiler for [https://sites.google.com/view/evasroguelikegamessite/keeping-and-training-pets-in-nethack-and-slashem Keeping and Training Pets in NetHack and SLASH'EM]
 * [[Tameness]]
 * [[Monster carrying capacity]]

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 ==Strategy==
-Apport is best raised and maintained by immediately rewarding a pet for dropping an item at your feet; this will raise initial apport high enough for the pet to start seeking you out, after which you should treat your pet from time to time after it drops something to keep apport high. [[Knight]]s start with a [[pony]] and many [[carrot]]s and [[apple]]s, and [[Healer]]s can turn [[rock]]s into [[meatball]]s via [[stone to flesh]], making them the most immediately prepared roles to handle this kind of training. Training apport is also a solid method of preparing a [et to [[stealing from shops|steal from shops]].
+Apport is best raised and maintained by immediately rewarding a pet for dropping an item at your feet; this will raise initial apport high enough for the pet to start seeking you out, after which you should treat your pet from time to time after it drops something to keep apport high. [[Knight]]s start with a [[pony]] and many [[carrot]]s and [[apple]]s, and [[Healer]]s can turn [[rock]]s into [[meatball]]s via [[stone to flesh]], making them the most immediately prepared roles to handle this kind of training. Training apport is also a solid method of preparing a pet to [[stealing from shops|steal from shops]].
 ==Etymology==

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 ==Strategy==
-Apport is best raised and maintained by immediately rewarding a pet for dropping an item at your feet; this will raise initial apport high enough for the pet to start seeking you out, after which you should treat your pet from time to time after it drops something to keep apport high. [[Knight]]s (who start with a [[pony]] and many [[carrot]]s and [[apple]]s) and [[Healer]]s (who can turn [[rock]]s into [[meatball]]s via [[stone to flesh]]) are the roles most immediately prepared to handle this kind of training.
+Apport is best raised and maintained by immediately rewarding a pet for dropping an item at your feet; this will raise initial apport high enough for the pet to start seeking you out, after which you should treat your pet from time to time after it drops something to keep apport high. [[Knight]]s start with a [[pony]] and many [[carrot]]s and [[apple]]s, and [[Healer]]s can turn [[rock]]s into [[meatball]]s via [[stone to flesh]], making them the most immediately prepared roles to handle this kind of training. Training apport is also a solid method of preparing a [et to [[stealing from shops|steal from shops]].
 ==Etymology==

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 ==Strategy==
 Apport is best raised and maintained by immediately rewarding a pet for dropping an item at your feet; this will raise initial apport high enough for the pet to start seeking you out, after which you should treat your pet from time to time after it drops something to keep apport high. [[Knight]]s (who start with a [[pony]] and many [[carrot]]s and [[apple]]s) and [[Healer]]s (who can turn [[rock]]s into [[meatball]]s via [[stone to flesh]]) are the roles most immediately prepared to handle this kind of training.
 ==Etymology==

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 ==Description==
-"Apport" is the name of a variable field in <tt>struct edog</tt> that governs the chances of a pet picking up an item and dropping it on a square next to you.{{refsrc|edog.h|19}}{{refsrc|dogmove.c|174}} The higher the apport stat is, the more likely a pet is to bring you an item; pets with high apport tend to follow you more reliably as well. Most pets start with an apport equal to your current [[charisma]],{{refsrc|src/dog.c|42|version=NetHack 3.6.6}} and each 'fetching' decrements this number by 1.{{refsrc|src/dogmove.c|434|version=NetHack 3.6.6}}
+"Apport" is the name of a variable field in <tt>struct edog</tt> that governs the chances of a pet picking up an item and dropping it on a square next to you.{{refsrc|include/mextra.h|162|version=NetHack 3.6.6}} The higher the apport stat is, the more likely a pet is to bring you an item.{{refsrc|src/dogmove.c|446|version=NetHack 3.6.6|comment=chance of picking up an object depends on distance and apport}}{{refsrc|src/dogmove.c|421|version=NetHack 3.6.6|chance of dropping a carried object}} New pets start with an apport equal to your current [[charisma]].{{refsrc|src/dog.c|42|version=NetHack 3.6.6}}
 Apport can be increased by feeding your pet any [[comestible]] that qualifies as a [[treat]] shortly after it has dropped an item near you. While this is commonly done by throwing the treat to the pet, the only requirement for treats to increase apport is that it has been in your inventory previously.
-The exact formula for apport gain (calculated when the pet receives a treat) is:
+Apport is decremented by 1 each time the pet drops an item, to a minimum of 1.{{refsrc|src/dogmove.c|423|version=NetHack 3.6.6}}
 / ((distance from you to pet when the last item was dropped) + (# of turns since item was dropped))
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 ==Strategy==
 Apport is best raised and maintained by immediately rewarding a pet for dropping an item at your feet; this will raise initial apport high enough for the pet to start seeking you out, after which you should treat your pet from time to time after it drops something to keep apport high. [[Knight]]s (who start with a [[pony]] and many [[carrot]]s and [[apple]]s) and [[Healer]]s (who can turn [[rock]]s into [[meatball]]s via [[stone to flesh]]) are the roles most immediately prepared to handle this kind of training.
 ==Etymology==
 The term "apport" is derived from the archaic English word "[[Wiktionary:apporter|apporter]]" and the much more common French ''apporter'' of the same spelling; their common root is the Latin ''apportō'' (“I carry in”). The former refers to an importer, while the latter is a verb that can mean "to bring (in)".
-In many languages, "apport" is a widely used command in dog training, equivalent to "fetch".{{fact}}
+In many languages, "apport" is a widely used command in dog training, equivalent to "fetch".<ref>https://www4.uwsp.edu/psych/dog/languag1.htm</ref><ref>https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/apport#Swedish</ref>
 ==See also==
 * Eva Myers' excellent spoiler for [http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~eva/nethack/pets2.html Keeping and Training Pets in NetHack and SLASH'EM]
 * [[Tameness]]
 ==References==

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 {{distinguish|tameness}}
-To '''apport''' something is to ''bring'' it.  In [[NetHack]], APPORT{{refsrc|dogmove.c|174}} is a statistic that represents how likely a [[pet]] is to 'fetch' items and bring them to [[you]].  Pets with high apport tend to follow you more reliably as well. Most pets start with an apport of 10.
+In ''[[NetHack]]'', '''apport''' is a statistic that represents how likely a [[pet]] is to 'fetch' items and bring them to [[you]].
-Apport can be increased by feeding your pet a [[treat]] (corpses do not count) shortly after it has dropped an item near you.  You do not necessarily have to throw the treat to the pet, as long as you have had it in your inventory previously. For this reason, it's a good idea to pick up and drop things your pet might eat, especially food in [[shop]]s (you won't be charged for it).
+==Description==
 The exact formula for apport gain (calculated when the pet receives a treat) is:
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 / (1 [[square]] + 1 [[turn]]) =  200/2  = +100 apport
-Therefore to maximize apport gain, wait for your pet to drop an item at your feet, then reward it immediately.
+==Strategy==
+Apport is best raised and maintained by immediately rewarding a pet for dropping an item at your feet; this will raise initial apport high enough for the pet to start seeking you out, after which you should treat your pet from time to time after it drops something to keep apport high. [[Knight]]s (who start with a [[pony]] and many [[carrot]]s and [[apple]]s) and [[Healer]]s (who can turn [[rock]]s into [[meatball]]s via [[stone to flesh]]) are the roles most immediately prepared to handle this kind of training.
 {|class="prettytable"
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 |[[warhorse]]     ||    1800 ||    1241 || 2452 || 4904
 |}
 ==Etymology==
-The verb "apport" typically [http://www.dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=*&Query=apport does not appear] in dictionaries of the English language. The French language has a verb "[[Wiktionary:apporter|apporter]]"; this word becomes "to apport" in English, and is synonym for "to bring".
+The term "apport" is derived from the archaic English word "[[Wiktionary:apporter|apporter]]" and the much more common French ''apporter'' of the same spelling; their common root is the Latin ''apportō'' (“I carry in”). The former refers to an importer, while the latter is a verb that can mean "to bring (in)".
-In many languages, "apport" is a widely used command in dog training, equivalent to "fetch".
+In many languages, "apport" is a widely used command in dog training, equivalent to "fetch".{{fact}}
 ==See also==
-*Eva Myers' excellent spoiler for [http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~eva/nethack/pets2.html Keeping and Training Pets in NetHack and SLASH'EM]
+* Eva Myers' excellent spoiler for [http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~eva/nethack/pets2.html Keeping and Training Pets in NetHack and SLASH'EM]
-*[[tameness]]
+* [[Tameness]]
 ==References==
 <references/>
-{{nethack-343}}
+{{nethack-366}}
 [[Category:Pets]]
 [[Category:Annotations]]

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 In a sentence: My dog apports blessed and uncursed objects.
-Because "apport" appears so rarely in English, one may interpret its meaning as more specific than "bring". For example, Wikipedia has an [[Wikipedia:Apport|entry for "apport"]], but only for when a [[ghost]] does the apporting!
+Because "apport" appears so rarely in English, one may interpret its meaning as more specific than "bring". For example, Wikipedia has an [[Wikipedia:Apport|entry for "apport"]] - which is either as tribute or by a [[ghost]]!
 In the [[source code]] of NetHack, <tt>apport</tt> is the name of a variable field in <tt>struct edog</tt>{{refsrc|edog.h|19}}. Thus we use "apport" as a noun to refer to the integer in that field. A pet with high apport, performs better to apport objects to you.

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 {|class="prettytable"
 ! Pet type
-! Corpse
+! Corpse wt
 ! Can carry unassisted
 ! in uncursed [[bag of holding]]
 ! in blessed [[bag of holding]]
 |-
-|[[kitten]]/[[little dog]]     ||    150 ||    52 || 72 || 145
+|[[kitten]]/[[little dog]]     ||    150 ||    51 || 72 || 144
 |-
-|[[housecat]]/[[dog]]     ||    200 ||    69 || 106 || 213
+|[[housecat]]/[[dog]]     ||    200 / 400 ||    68 / 137 || 106 / 244 || 212 / 488
 |-
-|[[large cat]]/[[large dog]]     ||    250 ||    1000 || 1968 || 3937
+|[[large cat]]/[[large dog]]     ||    250 / 800 ||    172 / 551 || 314 / 1072 || 628 / 2144
 |-
-|[[pony]]     ||    1300 ||    1000 || 1968 || 3937
+|[[pony]]     ||    1300 ||    896 || 1762 || 3524
 |-
-|[[horse]]     ||    1500 ||    1034 || 2036 || 4073
+|[[horse]]     ||    1500 ||    1034 || 2038 || 4076
 |-
-|[[warhorse]]     ||    1800 ||    1241 || 2450 || 4901
+|[[warhorse]]     ||    1800 ||    1241 || 2452 || 4904
 |}

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	[[Knight]]s (who start with a [[pony]] and many [[carrot]]s & [[apple]]s) or [[Healer]]s (who can turn [[rock]]s in to [[meatball]]s) should be able to train their pets to fetch quite well.		[[Knight]]s (who start with a [[pony]] and many [[carrot]]s & [[apple]]s) or [[Healer]]s (who can turn [[rock]]s in to [[meatball]]s) should be able to train their pets to fetch quite well.
		+
		+	{\|class="prettytable"
		+	! Pet type
		+	! Corpse
		+	! Can carry unassisted
		+	! in uncursed [[bag of holding]]
		+	! in blessed [[bag of holding]]
		+	\|-
		+	\|[[kitten]]/[[little dog]] \|\| 150 \|\| 52 \|\| 72 \|\| 145
		+	\|-
		+	\|[[housecat]]/[[dog]] \|\| 200 \|\| 69 \|\| 106 \|\| 213
		+	\|-
		+	\|[[large cat]]/[[large dog]] \|\| 250 \|\| 1000 \|\| 1968 \|\| 3937
		+	\|-
		+	\|[[pony]] \|\| 1300 \|\| 1000 \|\| 1968 \|\| 3937
		+	\|-
		+	\|[[horse]] \|\| 1500 \|\| 1034 \|\| 2036 \|\| 4073
		+	\|-
		+	\|[[warhorse]] \|\| 1800 \|\| 1241 \|\| 2450 \|\| 4901
		+	\|}
		+

	==Etymology==		==Etymology==