Black market (UnNetHack) - Revision history

Danpritts: /* As a General Store */ minor adjustment of previous edit

2026-07-29T20:53:11Z

As a General Store: minor adjustment of previous edit

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	While the Black Market has very large price markups, it doesn’t make it impossible to buy large quantities of items from it. [[Fort Ludios]] has an average of ~50,000 gold you can spend on the market, a blessed [[Touchstone]] can formally identify gems to sell for gold or credit, and the 1st floor of the [[Ruins of Moria]] usually not only has a lot of gems and some [[Gray_stone\|gray stones]] (which can include a Touchstone), but also several [[Small_piece_of_unrefined_mithril\|small pieces of unrefined mithril]] buried underground that can be dug up and sold for tens of thousands of gold/credit.		While the Black Market has very large price markups, it doesn’t make it impossible to buy large quantities of items from it. [[Fort Ludios]] has an average of ~50,000 gold you can spend on the market, a blessed [[Touchstone]] can formally identify gems to sell for gold or credit, and the 1st floor of the [[Ruins of Moria]] usually not only has a lot of gems and some [[Gray_stone\|gray stones]] (which can include a Touchstone), but also several [[Small_piece_of_unrefined_mithril\|small pieces of unrefined mithril]] buried underground that can be dug up and sold for tens of thousands of gold/credit.

	Also, don't forget that a [[Ring_of_adornment\|Ring of adornment]] or a [[Potion_of_gain_ability\|Potion of gain ability]] can increase your [[Charisma]], and shopkeepers charge lower prices to customers with high Charisma. Rings of Adornment may be available for sale in the Black Market itself.		Also, don't forget that a [[Ring_of_adornment\|Ring of adornment]] or a [[Potion_of_gain_ability\|Potion of gain ability]] can increase your [[Charisma]], and shopkeepers charge lower prices to customers with high Charisma. Rings of Adornment and Potions of Gain Ability may be available for sale in the Black Market itself.

	== Stealing ==		== Stealing ==

Danpritts: /* As a General Store */ reminder, high charisma == lower prices

2026-07-29T20:52:18Z

As a General Store: reminder, high charisma == lower prices

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	While the Black Market has very large price markups, it doesn’t make it impossible to buy large quantities of items from it. [[Fort Ludios]] has an average of ~50,000 gold you can spend on the market, a blessed [[Touchstone]] can formally identify gems to sell for gold or credit, and the 1st floor of the [[Ruins of Moria]] usually not only has a lot of gems and some [[Gray_stone\|gray stones]] (which can include a Touchstone), but also several [[Small_piece_of_unrefined_mithril\|small pieces of unrefined mithril]] buried underground that can be dug up and sold for tens of thousands of gold/credit.		While the Black Market has very large price markups, it doesn’t make it impossible to buy large quantities of items from it. [[Fort Ludios]] has an average of ~50,000 gold you can spend on the market, a blessed [[Touchstone]] can formally identify gems to sell for gold or credit, and the 1st floor of the [[Ruins of Moria]] usually not only has a lot of gems and some [[Gray_stone\|gray stones]] (which can include a Touchstone), but also several [[Small_piece_of_unrefined_mithril\|small pieces of unrefined mithril]] buried underground that can be dug up and sold for tens of thousands of gold/credit.

			Also, don't forget that a [[Ring_of_adornment\|Ring of adornment]] or a [[Potion_of_gain_ability\|Potion of gain ability]] can increase your [[Charisma]], and shopkeepers charge lower prices to customers with high Charisma. Rings of Adornment may be available for sale in the Black Market itself.

	== Stealing ==		== Stealing ==

Danpritts: remove another suggestion to use scrolls of flood to delay Sam.

2026-07-04T00:11:12Z

remove another suggestion to use scrolls of flood to delay Sam.

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	* The iron bars that normally keep you trapped in the black market can also keep you safe. The easiest way to do this is to stand right next to the portal, anger Sam, then move onto the portal after the bars drop. You will have to deal with wands and the cadre of soldiers—one of which will be on the portal—and you should remember that the bars will be raised once Sam is dead, potentially exposing you to other nasties in the market. Wands can be dealt with by reflection, and soldiers and assistants can be dispatched by either attack spells or [[Skill\|skilled]] [[Polearm\|polearms]]. Also, always beware of [[potion of acid]] that might be thrown at you.		* The iron bars that normally keep you trapped in the black market can also keep you safe. The easiest way to do this is to stand right next to the portal, anger Sam, then move onto the portal after the bars drop. You will have to deal with wands and the cadre of soldiers—one of which will be on the portal—and you should remember that the bars will be raised once Sam is dead, potentially exposing you to other nasties in the market. Wands can be dealt with by reflection, and soldiers and assistants can be dispatched by either attack spells or [[Skill\|skilled]] [[Polearm\|polearms]]. Also, always beware of [[potion of acid]] that might be thrown at you.
	* Contrary to what it might seem, Sam herself cannot resist [[spellbook of drain life\|level drain]] as Thiefbane does not convey any resistance against draining, so continuously casting drain life might be an option when you successfully brace behind the bars. Other monsters might obstruct the spell, and even if it hits there is still the 50% MR roll you have to consider; things will be tedious even if you are a potent spellcaster.		* Contrary to what it might seem, Sam herself cannot resist [[spellbook of drain life\|level drain]] as Thiefbane does not convey any resistance against draining, so continuously casting drain life might be an option when you successfully brace behind the bars. Other monsters might obstruct the spell, and even if it hits there is still the 50% MR roll you have to consider; things will be tedious even if you are a potent spellcaster.
	* Combining ranged attacks with scrolls of flood, especially if flying or polymorphed into a flying monster (such as a [[vampire lord]], will allow you to keep Sam away from melee distance. As a bonus, enough scrolls of flood can drown many of her assistants without angering her.
	* [[Farming\|Grind indefinitely]] and make yourself more than capable of ascending. Killing Sam this way, though, will be mostly unrewarding if not tedious.		* [[Farming\|Grind indefinitely]] and make yourself more than capable of ascending. Killing Sam this way, though, will be mostly unrewarding if not tedious.

Danpritts: remove suggestion that scrolls of flood will delay Sam; She can fly right over water, no help.

2026-07-04T00:04:59Z

remove suggestion that scrolls of flood will delay Sam; She can fly right over water, no help.

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	One-eyed Sam is a formidable opponent; the main danger is her [[Thiefbane]] which drains your life and has a 10% chance of decapitating you with each hit, killing you instantly. It is unlikely you would win against Sam in melee. Most of the strategies for dealing with Sam in [[Black market (SLASH'EM)\|SLASH'EM's black market]] do not work in UnNetHack. Sam has [[poison resistance]]], [[teleport control]], [[flight]], and the ability to break [[boulder]]s - as soon as you anger Sam, [[iron bars]] will drop from the ceiling around the magic portal, blocking it. In short, an unprepared character has almost no chance against her.		One-eyed Sam is a formidable opponent; the main danger is her [[Thiefbane]] which drains your life and has a 10% chance of decapitating you with each hit, killing you instantly. It is unlikely you would win against Sam in melee. Most of the strategies for dealing with Sam in [[Black market (SLASH'EM)\|SLASH'EM's black market]] do not work in UnNetHack. Sam has [[poison resistance]]], [[teleport control]], [[flight]], and the ability to break [[boulder]]s - as soon as you anger Sam, [[iron bars]] will drop from the ceiling around the magic portal, blocking it. In short, an unprepared character has almost no chance against her.

	* You can try to kill her from a distance before she can close in. If you have a powerful ranged attack (for example, expert [[bow]] with highly enchanted [[arrow]]s) and start attacking her from maximum range you may, with luck, kill her before she gets into melee range. Keep in mind her [[amulet of life saving]]; you need to be able to kill her twice. Delaying her with boulders~~, or even better, water from scrolls of flood,~~ can increase your chances here.		* You can try to kill her from a distance before she can close in. If you have a powerful ranged attack (for example, expert [[bow]] with highly enchanted [[arrow]]s) and start attacking her from maximum range you may, with luck, kill her before she gets into melee range. Keep in mind her [[amulet of life saving]]; you need to be able to kill her twice. Delaying her with boulders can increase your chances here.
	* You can use a powerful pet. An [[Archon]], brought in via blessed figurine, leveled enough to attack Sam, and given a powerful weapon, can reliably beat Sam in melee combat since pets are immune to her insta-kill. This can be a painful option, since you won't be able to take your shiny pet Archon with you. You may clear the shops of assistants (or other black marketeers in second variation), then rake in all the loot as compensation.		* You can use a powerful pet. An [[Archon]], brought in via blessed figurine, leveled enough to attack Sam, and given a powerful weapon, can reliably beat Sam in melee combat since pets are immune to her insta-kill. This can be a painful option, since you won't be able to take your shiny pet Archon with you. You may clear the shops of assistants (or other black marketeers in second variation), then rake in all the loot as compensation.
	* You can create a [[blue jelly]] or similar sessile monster fort to keep Sam out of melee range. You will still have to deal with wands and have a way to deal damage without losing your fort.		* You can create a [[blue jelly]] or similar sessile monster fort to keep Sam out of melee range. You will still have to deal with wands and have a way to deal damage without losing your fort.

Umbire the Phantom: /* Identification */ cleanup

2025-01-16T18:06:51Z

Identification: cleanup

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	===Identification===		===Identification===
	The large quantity of different item types available for sale allows the player to [[~~Price_Identification\|~~price-~~identify~~]] a large chunk of items normally sold in shops, and the fact that the Black Market always comes with a general store gives the player a guaranteed means of price-identifying items by selling them if no general stores generated in the [[Mazes of Menace]]. The player has to account for the Black Market’s markups when price-identifying items that are on sale (15x for non-magic items and 25x for magic items), but it’s not a significant hindrance to using the ~~Black Market~~ for price identification. If picking up items off the ground to #name them, remember to bring in ~2,500 gold in case you have to pay for picking up a ~~Cursed~~ [[~~Scroll~~ of scare monster]].		The large quantity of different item types available for sale allows the player to [[price-ID]] a large chunk of items normally sold in shops, and the fact that the Black Market always comes with a general store gives the player a guaranteed means of price-identifying items by selling them if no general stores generated in the [[Mazes of Menace]]. The player has to account for the Black Market’s markups when price-identifying items that are on sale (15x for non-magic items and 25x for magic items), but it’s not a significant hindrance to using the black market for price identification. If picking up items off the ground to #name them, remember to bring in ~2,500 gold in case you have to pay for picking up a cursed [[scroll of scare monster]].

	Additionally, the sheer quantity of items also lends itself to ''formal'' identification: ~~The player~~ can bring in blessed [[~~Scroll_of_identify\|~~scrolls of identify]], pick up all the informally identified items they want, and then read the scrolls to formally identify said items. This is especially valuable for items that are dangerous to try or expensive to buy without formally identifying them first, like ~~Amulets~~, ~~Rings~~, ~~Spellbooks~~, or high-tier scrolls.		Additionally, the sheer quantity of items also lends itself to ''formal'' identification: a hero can bring in blessed [[scrolls of identify]], pick up all the informally identified items they want, and then read the scrolls to formally identify said items. This is especially valuable for items that are dangerous to try or expensive to buy without formally identifying them first, like amulets, rings, spellbooks, or high-tier scrolls.

	If the ~~player~~ has a [[~~Wand~~ of probing]], they can also zap One-Eyed Sam to figure out what the Amulet of Life Saving, Magic Dragon Scales, and Speed Boots look like; Sam will always be equipped with all three.		If the hero has a [[wand of probing]], they can also zap One-Eyed Sam to figure out what the Amulet of Life Saving, Magic Dragon Scales, and Speed Boots look like; Sam will always be equipped with all three.

	===Magic Equipment===		===Magic Equipment===

Umbire the Phantom: pothole

2024-12-29T23:45:52Z

pothole

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	* You can use a powerful pet. An [[Archon]], brought in via blessed figurine, leveled enough to attack Sam, and given a powerful weapon, can reliably beat Sam in melee combat since pets are immune to her insta-kill. This can be a painful option, since you won't be able to take your shiny pet Archon with you. You may clear the shops of assistants (or other black marketeers in second variation), then rake in all the loot as compensation.		* You can use a powerful pet. An [[Archon]], brought in via blessed figurine, leveled enough to attack Sam, and given a powerful weapon, can reliably beat Sam in melee combat since pets are immune to her insta-kill. This can be a painful option, since you won't be able to take your shiny pet Archon with you. You may clear the shops of assistants (or other black marketeers in second variation), then rake in all the loot as compensation.
	* You can create a [[blue jelly]] or similar sessile monster fort to keep Sam out of melee range. You will still have to deal with wands and have a way to deal damage without losing your fort.		* You can create a [[blue jelly]] or similar sessile monster fort to keep Sam out of melee range. You will still have to deal with wands and have a way to deal damage without losing your fort.
	* It is even possible to disarm Sam by snatching Thiefbane with a [[bullwhip]]. There is a [[Durin's Bane\|~~guaranteed bullwhip~~]] in the [[Ruins of Moria]]. Keep in mind that Sam "wields" the Thiefbane only after she is angered, so applying bullwhip right away will only provoke her and therefore is a [[Bad Idea]].		* It is even possible to disarm Sam by snatching Thiefbane with a [[bullwhip]]. There is a guaranteed bullwhip wielded by [[Durin's Bane (UnNetHack)\|Durin's Bane]] in the [[Ruins of Moria]]. Keep in mind that Sam "wields" the Thiefbane only after she is angered, so applying bullwhip right away will only provoke her and therefore is a [[Bad Idea]].
	* The iron bars that normally keep you trapped in the black market can also keep you safe. The easiest way to do this is to stand right next to the portal, anger Sam, then move onto the portal after the bars drop. You will have to deal with wands and the cadre of soldiers—one of which will be on the portal—and you should remember that the bars will be raised once Sam is dead, potentially exposing you to other nasties in the market. Wands can be dealt with by reflection, and soldiers and assistants can be dispatched by either attack spells or [[Skill\|skilled]] [[Polearm\|polearms]]. Also, always beware of [[potion of acid]] that might be thrown at you.		* The iron bars that normally keep you trapped in the black market can also keep you safe. The easiest way to do this is to stand right next to the portal, anger Sam, then move onto the portal after the bars drop. You will have to deal with wands and the cadre of soldiers—one of which will be on the portal—and you should remember that the bars will be raised once Sam is dead, potentially exposing you to other nasties in the market. Wands can be dealt with by reflection, and soldiers and assistants can be dispatched by either attack spells or [[Skill\|skilled]] [[Polearm\|polearms]]. Also, always beware of [[potion of acid]] that might be thrown at you.
	* Contrary to what it might seem, Sam herself cannot resist [[spellbook of drain life\|level drain]] as Thiefbane does not convey any resistance against draining, so continuously casting drain life might be an option when you successfully brace behind the bars. Other monsters might obstruct the spell, and even if it hits there is still the 50% MR roll you have to consider; things will be tedious even if you are a potent spellcaster.		* Contrary to what it might seem, Sam herself cannot resist [[spellbook of drain life\|level drain]] as Thiefbane does not convey any resistance against draining, so continuously casting drain life might be an option when you successfully brace behind the bars. Other monsters might obstruct the spell, and even if it hits there is still the 50% MR roll you have to consider; things will be tedious even if you are a potent spellcaster.

Umbire the Phantom: /* Fighting One-eyed Sam */ potholes et. al.

2024-10-09T06:25:20Z

Fighting One-eyed Sam: potholes et. al.

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	== Fighting One-eyed Sam ==		== Fighting One-eyed Sam ==
	One-eyed Sam is a formidable opponent; the main danger is her [[Thiefbane]] which drains your life and has a 10% chance of decapitating you with each hit, killing you instantly. It is unlikely you would win against Sam in melee. Most of the strategies for dealing with Sam in [[Black market (SLASH'EM)\|SLASH'EM's black market]] do not work in UnNetHack. Sam [[~~Poison~~ resistance~~\|resists poison~~]], ~~has teleport resistance similar to the~~ [[~~rider~~]]s, [[~~Flying\|flies~~]], and ~~can~~ break ~~boulders. And~~ as soon as you anger Sam, [[iron bars]] will drop from the ceiling around the magic portal, blocking it. In short, an unprepared character has almost no chance against her.		One-eyed Sam is a formidable opponent; the main danger is her [[Thiefbane]] which drains your life and has a 10% chance of decapitating you with each hit, killing you instantly. It is unlikely you would win against Sam in melee. Most of the strategies for dealing with Sam in [[Black market (SLASH'EM)\|SLASH'EM's black market]] do not work in UnNetHack. Sam has [[poison resistance]]], [[teleport control]], [[flight]], and the ability to break [[boulder]]s - as soon as you anger Sam, [[iron bars]] will drop from the ceiling around the magic portal, blocking it. In short, an unprepared character has almost no chance against her.

	* You can try to kill her from a distance before she can close in. If you have a powerful ranged attack (for example, expert [[bow]] with highly enchanted [[arrow]]s) and start attacking her from maximum range you may, with luck, kill her before she gets into melee range. Keep in mind her [[amulet of life saving]]; you need to be able to kill her twice. Delaying her with boulders, or even better, water from scrolls of flood, can increase your chances here.		* You can try to kill her from a distance before she can close in. If you have a powerful ranged attack (for example, expert [[bow]] with highly enchanted [[arrow]]s) and start attacking her from maximum range you may, with luck, kill her before she gets into melee range. Keep in mind her [[amulet of life saving]]; you need to be able to kill her twice. Delaying her with boulders, or even better, water from scrolls of flood, can increase your chances here.

TalentlessF2P: Non-Stealing Strategy

2024-03-25T23:58:32Z

Non-Stealing Strategy

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Bhaak: /* Assistants */ Small A'Tuin is there now

2021-05-24T18:43:45Z

Assistants: Small A'Tuin is there now

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	* A [[cockatrice]] named Wilbur		* A [[cockatrice]] named Wilbur
	* A [[frost giant]] named Goliath		* A [[frost giant]] named Goliath
	* A [[giant turtle]] named Small A'Tuin ~~in the classic variation only~~		* A [[giant turtle]] named Small A'Tuin

	== Maps ==		== Maps ==

Umbire the Phantom: /* History */

2021-05-05T06:15:22Z

History

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	== History ==		== History ==
			Before UnNetHack 5.3.2, the layout of the classic Black Market was exactly the same as [[Black market (SLASH'EM)\|the Black Market that appeared in]] [[SLASH'EM]]. There were approximately 379 objects in the shop on average.
	Before UnNetHack 5.3.2, the layout of the classic Black Market was exactly the same as [[Black market (SLASH'EM)\|SLASH'EM~~'s Black Market~~]]. There were approximately 379 objects in the shop on average.

	== References ==		== References ==

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	* The iron bars that normally keep you trapped in the black market can also keep you safe. The easiest way to do this is to stand right next to the portal, anger Sam, then move onto the portal after the bars drop. You will have to deal with wands and the cadre of soldiers—one of which will be on the portal—and you should remember that the bars will be raised once Sam is dead, potentially exposing you to other nasties in the market. Wands can be dealt with by reflection, and soldiers and assistants can be dispatched by either attack spells or [[Skill\|skilled]] [[Polearm\|polearms]]. Also, always beware of [[potion of acid]] that might be thrown at you.		* The iron bars that normally keep you trapped in the black market can also keep you safe. The easiest way to do this is to stand right next to the portal, anger Sam, then move onto the portal after the bars drop. You will have to deal with wands and the cadre of soldiers—one of which will be on the portal—and you should remember that the bars will be raised once Sam is dead, potentially exposing you to other nasties in the market. Wands can be dealt with by reflection, and soldiers and assistants can be dispatched by either attack spells or [[Skill\|skilled]] [[Polearm\|polearms]]. Also, always beware of [[potion of acid]] that might be thrown at you.
	* Contrary to what it might seem, Sam herself cannot resist [[spellbook of drain life\|level drain]] as Thiefbane does not convey any resistance against draining, so continuously casting drain life might be an option when you successfully brace behind the bars. Other monsters might obstruct the spell, and even if it hits there is still the 50% MR roll you have to consider; things will be tedious even if you are a potent spellcaster.		* Contrary to what it might seem, Sam herself cannot resist [[spellbook of drain life\|level drain]] as Thiefbane does not convey any resistance against draining, so continuously casting drain life might be an option when you successfully brace behind the bars. Other monsters might obstruct the spell, and even if it hits there is still the 50% MR roll you have to consider; things will be tedious even if you are a potent spellcaster.
	* Combining ranged attacks with scrolls of flood, especially if flying or polymorphed into a flying monster (such as a [[vampire lord]], will allow you to keep Sam away from melee distance. As a bonus, enough scrolls of flood can drown many of her assistants without angering her.
	* [[Farming\|Grind indefinitely]] and make yourself more than capable of ascending. Killing Sam this way, though, will be mostly unrewarding if not tedious.		* [[Farming\|Grind indefinitely]] and make yourself more than capable of ascending. Killing Sam this way, though, will be mostly unrewarding if not tedious.