Cave spider - Revision history

Umbire the Phantom: /* Strategy */ detail

2025-07-29T06:35:35Z

‎Strategy: detail

Umbire the Phantom: /* Variants */ small deets

2025-07-29T06:34:31Z

‎Variants: small deets

Umbire the Phantom: /* Variants */ slash'em, THEM, evil, hackem

2025-07-29T06:33:35Z

‎Variants: slash'em, THEM, evil, hackem

Umbire the Phantom: good call, ty

2025-07-06T16:55:25Z

good call, ty

Ais523: /* Strategy */ mention that the cave spider corpse prioritisation is about eating, as that information got unintentionally edited out – also move "fresh" to make the sentence flow better

2025-07-06T16:52:10Z

‎Strategy: mention that the cave spider corpse prioritisation is about eating, as that information got unintentionally edited out – also move "fresh" to make the sentence flow better

Umbire the Phantom: /* dNethack */ punc

2025-06-22T09:45:01Z

‎dNethack: punc

Umbire the Phantom: /* SLASH'EM */ copyedit

2025-06-22T09:44:46Z

‎SLASH'EM: copyedit

Umbire the Phantom: /* notdNetHack */ nndnh

2025-06-22T09:44:20Z

‎notdNetHack: nndnh

Umbire the Phantom: /* Strategy */ bit more direct

2025-06-22T09:44:04Z

‎Strategy: bit more direct

Ais523: /* Strategy */ it is usually correct to eat the corpse if you don't have poison resistance – I imagine most expert players know this already, so tailor the strategy advice for beginners

2025-06-22T03:42:14Z

‎Strategy: it is usually correct to eat the corpse if you don't have poison resistance – I imagine most expert players know this already, so tailor the strategy advice for beginners

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 While cave spiders are not particularly dangerous as the first hiding monsters a character will likely encounter, they can move at the same [[speed]] as an unhasted character, and their 3 [[AC]] can make hitting them slightly difficult. Due to the spider's hiding habits, a [[thrown]] projectile causes them to "stick" in place often, allowing you to freely pick them off or even escape if the situation warrants it. This can also be put to use in some [[treasure zoo]]s, where a hiding cave spider can block the door and hem in the other monsters; you can then attack them from range at your leisure, e.g. with a [[polearm]] or [[lance]].
-Heroes without poison resistance should treat fresh cave spider corpses as a priority to eat, since they are a safe source of the property unless the hero is [[oversatiated]]&mdash;inexperienced players in particular should prioritize them over other corpses that can grant the property, but are also [[poisonous]] to eat.
+Heroes without poison resistance should treat fresh cave spider corpses as a priority to eat, since they are a safe source of the property unless the hero is [[oversatiated]]&mdash;this is especially true during the early game, and inexperienced players in particular should prioritize them over other corpses that can grant the property, but are also [[poisonous]] to eat.
 ==History==

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 Cave spiders grow up into [[large spider]]s, which can grow up into giant spiders.
-Eating a cave spider corpse or tin grants {{frac|20}} [[Partial intrinsic|additional poison resistance]].
+Eating a cave spider corpse or tin grants {{frac|20}} (+5%) [[Partial intrinsic|additional poison resistance]].
 ===Hack'EM===
 In [[Hack'EM]], werespiders can summon cave spiders with the same conditions and odds as in SLASH'EM.
-Eating a cave spider corpse or tin grants {{frac|20}} additional poison resistance, as in EvilHack.
+Eating a cave spider corpse or tin grants {{frac|20}} (+5%) additional poison resistance, as in EvilHack.
 ==Encyclopedia entry==

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 ==Variants==
 ===SLASH'EM===
-In [[SLASH'EM]], [[werespider]]s can summon cave spiders by calling for help.{{refsrc|were.c|154|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}
+In [[SLASH'EM]], [[werespider]]s summoning help has a {{frac|4|5}} chance of generating a hostile cave spider on each applicable square{{refsrc|were.c|154|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}&mdash;heroes that get lycanthropy from a werespider can summon these monsters as pets using the [[Monster (command)|#monster]] [[extended command]], which costs 10 [[power]] and has the same odds.
 [[The Spider Caves]] generates several giant spider eggs on level creation that can hatch into cave spiders.
 ===dNetHack===
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 ===EvilHack===
-In [[EvilHack]], cave spiders also spin webs while moving, with webs being more likely in enclosed spaces. Cave spiders grow up into [[large spider]]s, which can grow up into giant spiders.
+In [[EvilHack]], cave spiders can spin webs while moving, with webs being more likely in enclosed spaces. Drow are capable of taming cave spiders and other spiders as [[domestic animal]]s.
-Drow are capable of taming cave spiders and other spiders as [[domestic animal]]s.
+Eating a cave spider corpse or tin grants {{frac|20}} additional poison resistance, as in EvilHack.
 ==Encyclopedia entry==

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   |frequency=2
   |genocidable=Yes
-  |attacks=Bite 1d2
+  |attacks=[[Bite]] 1d2 [[Physical damage|physical]]
   |weight=50
   |nutr=50
   |size=Tiny
-  |resistances=Poison
+  |resistances=[[Poison resistance]]
-  |resistances conveyed=Poison (7%)
+  |resistances conveyed=[[Poison resistance]] (7%)
   |attributes={{attributes|A cave spider|sgroup=1|conceal=1|animal=1|nohands=1|oviparous=1|carnivore=1|hostile=1}}
   |reference=[[monst.c#line844]]
 }}
-A '''cave spider''', {{monsym|cave spider}}, is a type of [[monster]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. It is a tiny [[carnivorous]] and [[oviparous]] [[spider]] that is the most basic monster of the [[arachnid or centipede]] monster class. Cave spiders can move freely across [[web]]s, and can [[hide]] under items to catch [[you]] by surprise.
+A '''cave spider''', {{monsym|cave spider}}, is a type of [[monster]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. The cave spider is a tiny, [[carnivorous]] and [[oviparous]] [[spider]] that is the most basic monster of the [[arachnid or centipede]] monster class. Cave spiders can move freely across [[web]]s, and can [[hide]] under items to catch the [[hero]] or other monsters by surprise.
 A cave spider has a single bite attack, and possesses [[poison resistance]].
-Eating a cave spider [[corpse]] or [[tin]] has a {{frac|14}} chance of conveying poison resistance.
+[[Eating]] a cave spider [[corpse]] or [[tin]] has a {{frac|14}} chance of conveying poison resistance.
 A character [[polymorph]]ed into a cave spider can spin a web on their square using the #[[Monster (command)|monster]] [[extended command]].
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 While cave spiders are not particularly dangerous as the first hiding monsters a character will likely encounter, they can move at the same [[speed]] as an unhasted character, and their 3 [[AC]] can make hitting them slightly difficult. Due to the spider's hiding habits, a [[thrown]] projectile causes them to "stick" in place often, allowing you to freely pick them off or even escape if the situation warrants it. This can also be put to use in some [[treasure zoo]]s, where a hiding cave spider can block the door and hem in the other monsters; you can then attack them from range at your leisure, e.g. with a [[polearm]] or [[lance]].
-Heroes without poison resistance should treat fresh cave spider corpses as a priority to [[eat]], since they are a safe source of the property unless a hero is [[oversatiated]]&mdash;inexperienced players in particular should prioritize them over other corpses that can grant the property but are also [[poisonous]] to eat.
+Heroes without poison resistance should treat fresh cave spider corpses as a priority to eat, since they are a safe source of the property unless the hero is [[oversatiated]]&mdash;inexperienced players in particular should prioritize them over other corpses that can grant the property, but are also [[poisonous]] to eat.
 ==History==
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 [[The Spider Caves]] generates several giant spider eggs on level creation that can hatch into cave spiders.
-===dNethack===
+===dNetHack===
-In [[dNethack]], [[Drow (starting race)|drow]] of all roles except for [[Noble]]women will start the game with a tame cave spider.
+In [[dNetHack]], [[notdNetHack]] and [[notnotdNetHack]], [[Drow (starting race)|drow]] of all roles except for [[Noble]]women will start the game with a tame cave spider.
 ===xNetHack===

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 While cave spiders are not particularly dangerous as the first hiding monsters a character will likely encounter, they can move at the same [[speed]] as an unhasted character, and their 3 [[AC]] can make hitting them slightly difficult. Due to the spider's hiding habits, a [[thrown]] projectile causes them to "stick" in place often, allowing you to freely pick them off or even escape if the situation warrants it. This can also be put to use in some [[treasure zoo]]s, where a hiding cave spider can block the door and hem in the other monsters; you can then attack them from range at your leisure, e.g. with a [[polearm]] or [[lance]].
-Heroes without poison resistance should prioritize cave spider corpses, since they are a safe source of the property while fresh unless a hero is [[oversatiated]]&mdash;inexperienced players in particular should prioritize them over other corpses that can grant the property but are also [[poisonous]] to eat.
+Heroes without poison resistance should treat fresh cave spider corpses as a priority to [[eat]], since they are a safe source of the property unless a hero is [[oversatiated]]&mdash;inexperienced players in particular should prioritize them over other corpses that can grant the property but are also [[poisonous]] to eat.
 ==History==

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 ===notdNetHack===
-In [[notdNetHack]], in addition to dNetHack details, [[Chupoclops]] is generated with several cave spider eggs when summoned by an [[Illithanachronounbinder]].
+In [[notdNetHack]] and [[notnotdNetHack]], in addition to dNetHack details, [[Chupoclops]] is generated with several cave spider eggs when summoned by an [[Illithanachronounbinder]].
 ===EvilHack===