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Umbire the Phantom: upcoming (chance to:opportunity::chance of:probability)

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Silverwing235: /* Strategy */ formatting

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‎Strategy: formatting

Umbire the Phantom: /* Effects */

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‎Effects

Umbire the Phantom at 05:45, 7 September 2021

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Umbire the Phantom: /* xNetHack */

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‎xNetHack

Actual-nh: /* Effects */ Formatting

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Actual-nh: /* Effects */ Update for 3.7.0

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Actual-nh: /* xNetHack */ Link Big Stick

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 Monsters affected by conflict move around randomly if they have [[engulfed]] you. If used properly, this can be very helpful to a [[pacifist]].
-{{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|Per [https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/2f255560252b0c18ed468baf94b58654bd5413f7 this commit:]
+{{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|As of {{commit|2f255560252b0c18ed468baf94b58654bd5413f7|commit 2f25556}}, the chance of resisting conflict now depends on the player's charisma, the monster's level, and the player's level. Conflict is resisted if <code>rnd(20) > min(19, (ACURR(A_CHA) - mtmp->m_lev + u.ulevel))</code> - this means there is a minimum {{frac|20}} chance of a monster resisting. Conflict also now requires that the monster see the player, not that the monster be in the player's line of sight. These changes are imported from [[SporkHack]].}}
 ==Strategy==

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-'''Conflict''' is a useful but dangerous [[property]] that causes monsters to attack indiscriminately.
+'''Conflict''' is a [[property]] in ''[[NetHack]]'' that causes monsters to attack indiscriminately.
-== Effects ==
+The main sources of conflict are [[eating jewelry|eating]] or wearing a [[ring of conflict]], or [[invoking]] [[The Sceptre of Might]].
-Conflict has several effects. [[Peaceful]] or [[tame]] monsters will start attacking you or other monsters near them, though for all other purposes they are still considered peaceful or tame; i.e., attacking them still carries consequences. This makes conflict dangerous near strong [[pet]]s, [[shopkeeper]]s, or other peaceful monsters. However, it will also make nearby monsters attack each other instead of you, which can be incredibly helpful, particularly in high-density areas like the [[Astral Plane]] and [[Moloch's Sanctum]].
 Monsters are affected if they are in your line of sight and at most 8 squares away. Blinded monsters and the [[Wizard of Yendor]] are impervious to conflict.{{refsrc|mon.c|609}} Monsters with a sufficiently high combined [[Magic resistance (monster)|magic resistance]] and [[level]] can resist this.{{refsrc|mhitm.c|115}}{{reffunc|zap.c|resist}}{{refsrc|monmove.c|502|comment=All these extra checks do not apply to spellcasters casting spells at range}}
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 The chance to resist conflict now depends on the player's charisma, the monster's level, and the player's level. Conflict is resisted if <code>rnd(20) > min(19, (ACURR(A_CHA) - mtmp->m_lev + u.ulevel))</code> - thus, there is always at least a 5% chance to resist it. Conflict also now requires that the monster see the player, not that the monster be in the player's line of sight. These changes are imported from [[SporkHack]].}}
 ==Strategy==
-Generating conflict is a very effective way of clearing out dense groups of enemies, since monsters will fight each other in addition to you. A common strategy is to burn Elbereth on the ground, and sit back and watch as the monsters battle it out while you take minimal damage. All monsters are prone to conflict (some may resist as explained in the formula above), including normally peaceful monsters and your pet; however, you can still incur the penalty of [[murder]] on the peaceful humans that attack you! [[Elbereth]] will continue to work against those who respect it as long as the engraving remains intact. Popular places for conflict are crowded levels such as the [[Big Room]] and certain quest branches. The [[elemental planes]] are also a good candidate for conflict, though generating conflict on the Astral Plane causes hostile [[Angel]]s to replace the usual tame one.
+Conflict is both incredibly useful and incredibly dangerous. Generating conflict is a very effective way of clearing out dense groups of enemies, since monsters will fight each other in addition to you. A common strategy is to burn Elbereth on the ground, and sit back and watch as the monsters battle it out while you take minimal damage. All monsters are prone to conflict (some may resist as explained in the formula above), including normally peaceful monsters and your pet; however, you can still incur the penalty of [[murder]] on the peaceful humans that attack you! [[Elbereth]] will continue to work against those who respect it as long as the engraving remains intact. Popular places for conflict are crowded levels such as the [[Big Room]] and certain quest branches. The [[elemental planes]] are also a good candidate for conflict, though generating conflict on the Astral Plane causes hostile [[Angel]]s to replace the usual tame one.
 You do not gain experience when monsters kill one another, but the monsters will gain experience for themselves. Use caution when generating conflict in the presence of monsters that tend to grow up into more powerful forms, since they can rack up experience from killing off the lesser monsters. If you are sufficiently high level, this is usually not much of a problem. Also take care when generating conflict with priests or shopkeepers present - as mentioned above, they can and will attack the player while under conflict and you will still get the usual murder penalties if you kill them.
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 Be careful when skipping through all of the battle messages while generating conflict, as it is easy to skip over important messages pertaining to, for example, a cockatrice hissing at you and beginning to stone you. Always pay attention to the monsters around you and any status effects that you might have gained during the flood of "The <monster> hits the <monster>!" messages.
-The [[ring of conflict]] is the general item used for generating by wearing and removing the ring as necessary. The safest method of conflict, from a nutrition standpoint, is the Sceptre of Might - you won't get hungry, but you also only get to [[invoke|turn it on]] every once in a while. Thus, the Sceptre is best used for emergency crowd-clearing, such as when a spellcasters [[summon nasties|summons nasties]].
+The [[ring of conflict]] is the general item used for generating by wearing and removing the ring as necessary. The safest method of conflict, from a nutrition standpoint, is the Sceptre of Might - you won't get hungry, but you also only get to [[invoke]] it every once in a while. Thus, the Sceptre is best used for emergency crowd-clearing, such as when a spellcaster casts [[summon nasties]].
 Eating a ring to get intrinsic conflict is usually a [[bad idea]] as it will burn through nutrition very quickly, and you will have no way of shutting it off.  Don't try to dance with [[gremlin]]s if you ate the ring by accident; neither they (nor anything else) can remove this particular intrinsic, so you'll just have to [[ascend]] with it somehow.

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 Generating conflict is a very effective way of clearing out dense groups of enemies, since monsters will fight each other in addition to you. A common strategy is to burn Elbereth on the ground, and sit back and watch as the monsters battle it out while you take minimal damage. All monsters are prone to conflict (some may resist as explained in the formula above), including normally peaceful monsters and your pet; however, you can still incur the penalty of [[murder]] on the peaceful humans that attack you! [[Elbereth]] will continue to work against those who respect it as long as the engraving remains intact. Popular places for conflict are crowded levels such as the [[Big Room]] and certain quest branches. The [[elemental planes]] are also a good candidate for conflict, though generating conflict on the Astral Plane causes hostile [[Angel]]s to replace the usual tame one.
-You do not gain experience when monsters kill one another, but the monsters will gain experience for themselves. Use caution when generating conflict in the presence of monsters that tend to grow up into more powerful forms, since they can rack up experience from killing off the lesser monsters. If you are sufficiently high level, this is usually not much of a problem. Also take care when generating conflict with priests or shopkeepers present. As mentioned above, they can and will attack the player while under conflict and you will still get the usual murder penalties if you kill them.
+You do not gain experience when monsters kill one another, but the monsters will gain experience for themselves. Use caution when generating conflict in the presence of monsters that tend to grow up into more powerful forms, since they can rack up experience from killing off the lesser monsters. If you are sufficiently high level, this is usually not much of a problem. Also take care when generating conflict with priests or shopkeepers present - as mentioned above, they can and will attack the player while under conflict and you will still get the usual murder penalties if you kill them.
 Be careful when skipping through all of the battle messages while generating conflict, as it is easy to skip over important messages pertaining to, for example, a cockatrice hissing at you and beginning to stone you. Always pay attention to the monsters around you and any status effects that you might have gained during the flood of "The <monster> hits the <monster>!" messages.

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 Monsters may resist conflict; this happens if <code>rn2(100 + alev &minus; dlev) < mtmp->data->mr</code>, where <code>alev</code> is 5 for a ring of conflict and 10 for a weapon (like [[the Sceptre of Might]]), <code>dlev</code> is the monster's level capped at 50, and <code>mtmp->data->mr</code> is the monster's magic resistance. For peaceful monsters, <code>alev</code> is always 5.{{refsrc|monmove.c|551}} For example, a level 28 [[master mind flayer]] pet will always resist conflict from the Sceptre of Might, as [[rn2]](77) will always be smaller than the flayer's MR of 90.
-If you are generating conflict when you arrive on the Astral Plane, instead of getting a guardian [[Angel]], you will be attacked by some hostile Angels. If you aren't wearing the ring when you arrive, but later put it on and your guardian angel notices, it will also turn hostile.
+If you are generating conflict when you arrive on the Astral Plane, instead of getting a guardian [[Angel]], you will be attacked by some hostile Angels. If you are not generating conflict when you arrive, but do so later in the presence of your guardian angel, it will also turn hostile.
 Monsters affected by conflict move around randomly if they have [[engulfed]] you. If used properly, this can be very helpful to a [[pacifist]].

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 Monsters may resist conflict; this happens if <code>rn2(100 + alev &minus; dlev) < mtmp->data->mr</code>, where <code>alev</code> is 5 for a ring of conflict and 10 for a weapon (like [[the Sceptre of Might]]), <code>dlev</code> is the monster's level capped at 50, and <code>mtmp->data->mr</code> is the monster's magic resistance. For peaceful monsters, <code>alev</code> is always 5.{{refsrc|monmove.c|551}} For example, a level 28 [[master mind flayer]] pet will always resist conflict from the Sceptre of Might, as [[rn2]](77) will always be smaller than the flayer's MR of 90.
-{{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|The chance to resist conflict now depends on the player's charisma, the monster's level, and the player's level. Conflict is resisted if <code>rnd(20) > min(19, (ACURR(A_CHA) - mtmp->m_lev + u.ulevel))</code> - thus, there is always at least a 5% chance to resist it. Conflict also now requires that the monster see the player, not that the monster be in the player's line of sight. These changes are imported from [[SporkHack]].}}
+If you are generating conflict when you arrive on the Astral Plane, instead of getting a guardian [[Angel]], you will be attacked by some hostile Angels. If you aren't wearing the ring when you arrive, but later put it on and your guardian angel notices, it will also turn hostile.
-If you are generating conflict when you arrive on the Astral Plane, instead of getting a guardian [[Angel]], you will be attacked by some hostile Angels. If you aren't wearing the ring when you arrive, but later put it on and your guardian angel notices, it will also turn hostile.
+Monsters affected by conflict move around randomly if they have [[engulfed]] you. If used properly, this can be very helpful to a [[pacifist]].
-Monsters affected by conflict move around randomly if they [[engulfing|engulf]] you. If used properly, this can be very helpful to a [[pacifist]].
+{{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|Per [https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/commit/2f255560252b0c18ed468baf94b58654bd5413f7 this commit:]
-== Sources ==
+The chance to resist conflict now depends on the player's charisma, the monster's level, and the player's level. Conflict is resisted if <code>rnd(20) > min(19, (ACURR(A_CHA) - mtmp->m_lev + u.ulevel))</code> - thus, there is always at least a 5% chance to resist it. Conflict also now requires that the monster see the player, not that the monster be in the player's line of sight. These changes are imported from [[SporkHack]].}}
-A ring of conflict can often be [[eating jewelry|eaten]] for a chance of obtaining conflict as an [[intrinsic]]. Intrinsic conflict has the same [[nutrition]] cost as extrinsic conflict, minus the [[ring hunger]].
+==Sources==
-If you are not wearing the ring, conflict can be toggled by invoking the Sceptre of Might. This does not cause increased nutrition drain.
+Conflict can also be toggled by invoking the Sceptre of Might. This does not cause increased nutrition drain.
-== Strategy ==
+==Strategy==
 Generating conflict is a very effective way of clearing out dense groups of enemies, since monsters will fight each other in addition to you. A common strategy is to burn Elbereth on the ground, and sit back and watch as the monsters battle it out while you take minimal damage. All monsters are prone to conflict (some may resist as explained in the formula above), including normally peaceful monsters and your pet; however, you can still incur the penalty of [[murder]] on the peaceful humans that attack you! [[Elbereth]] will continue to work against those who respect it as long as the engraving remains intact. Popular places for conflict are crowded levels such as the [[Big Room]] and certain quest branches. The [[elemental planes]] are also a good candidate for conflict, though generating conflict on the Astral Plane causes hostile [[Angel]]s to replace the usual tame one.
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 Be careful when skipping through all of the battle messages while generating conflict, as it is easy to skip over important messages pertaining to, for example, a cockatrice hissing at you and beginning to stone you. Always pay attention to the monsters around you and any status effects that you might have gained during the flood of "The <monster> hits the <monster>!" messages.
-[[Ring of conflict|Rings of conflict]] are the usual way to use conflict, by wearing and removing the ring as necessary. The safest method of conflict, from a nutrition standpoint, is the Sceptre of Might; you won't get hungry, but you also only get to [[invoke|turn it on]] every once in a while. Thus, the Sceptre is best used for emergency crowd-clearing, such as when a monster [[summon nasties|summons nasties]].
+The [[ring of conflict]] is the general item used for generating by wearing and removing the ring as necessary. The safest method of conflict, from a nutrition standpoint, is the Sceptre of Might - you won't get hungry, but you also only get to [[invoke|turn it on]] every once in a while. Thus, the Sceptre is best used for emergency crowd-clearing, such as when a spellcasters [[summon nasties|summons nasties]].
 Eating a ring to get intrinsic conflict is usually a [[bad idea]] as it will burn through nutrition very quickly, and you will have no way of shutting it off.  Don't try to dance with [[gremlin]]s if you ate the ring by accident; neither they (nor anything else) can remove this particular intrinsic, so you'll just have to [[ascend]] with it somehow.

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 === xNetHack ===
-In [[xNetHack]], the Sceptre of Might does not toggle conflict when invoked; this property is given to the new Caveman quest artifact, [[Big Stick]]. The game also tracks "conflictless" [[Unofficial conduct#Conducts in variants|conduct]], which is broken by generating conflict.
+In [[xNetHack]], as the Sceptre of Might is now the [[Priest]] quest artifact, the ability to invoke conflict is given to the new Caveman quest artifact, the [[Big Stick]]. The game also tracks "conflictless" [[Unofficial conduct#Conducts in variants|conduct]], which is broken by generating conflict.
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	Monsters may resist conflict; this happens if <code>rn2(100 + alev − dlev) < mtmp->data->mr</code>, where <code>alev</code> is 5 for a ring of conflict and 10 for a weapon (like [[the Sceptre of Might]]), <code>dlev</code> is the monster's level capped at 50, and <code>mtmp->data->mr</code> is the monster's magic resistance. For peaceful monsters, <code>alev</code> is always 5.{{refsrc\|monmove.c\|551}} For example, a level 28 [[master mind flayer]] pet will always resist conflict from the Sceptre of Might, as [[rn2]](77) will always be smaller than the flayer's MR of 90.		Monsters may resist conflict; this happens if <code>rn2(100 + alev − dlev) < mtmp->data->mr</code>, where <code>alev</code> is 5 for a ring of conflict and 10 for a weapon (like [[the Sceptre of Might]]), <code>dlev</code> is the monster's level capped at 50, and <code>mtmp->data->mr</code> is the monster's magic resistance. For peaceful monsters, <code>alev</code> is always 5.{{refsrc\|monmove.c\|551}} For example, a level 28 [[master mind flayer]] pet will always resist conflict from the Sceptre of Might, as [[rn2]](77) will always be smaller than the flayer's MR of 90.
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		+	{{upcoming\|NetHack 3.7.0\|The chance to resist conflict now depends on the player's charisma, the monster's level, and the player's level. Conflict is resisted if <code>rnd(20) > min(19, (ACURR(A_CHA) - mtmp->m_lev + u.ulevel))</code>; thus, there is always at least a 5% chance to resist it. Conflict also now requires that the monster see the player, not that the monster be in the player's line of sight. These changes are imported from [[SporkHack]].}}

	If you are generating conflict when you arrive on the Astral Plane, instead of getting a guardian [[Angel]], you will be attacked by some hostile Angels. If you aren't wearing the ring when you arrive, but later put it on and your guardian angel notices, it will also turn hostile.		If you are generating conflict when you arrive on the Astral Plane, instead of getting a guardian [[Angel]], you will be attacked by some hostile Angels. If you aren't wearing the ring when you arrive, but later put it on and your guardian angel notices, it will also turn hostile.