Corpseless - Revision history

Umbire the Phantom: /* History */ adjust

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‎History: adjust

Umbire the Phantom: /* Special death drops */ word choice

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‎Special death drops: word choice

Umbire the Phantom: lede

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Umbire the Phantom: /* History */ detailing

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‎History: detailing

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Umbire the Phantom: /* List of corpseless monsters */ clip nemeses since they're included in "all demons"

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‎List of corpseless monsters: clip nemeses since they're included in "all demons"

Umbire the Phantom: /* History */ potholes

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‎History: potholes

Umbire the Phantom: /* List of corpseless monsters */ section off

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‎List of corpseless monsters: section off

Umbire the Phantom: expansion pass

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expansion pass

Furey: /* History */ add a refsrc for the release note about the bugfix for making corpseless corpses with holes dropping to a monster-stuffed level

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‎History: add a refsrc for the release note about the bugfix for making corpseless corpses with holes dropping to a monster-stuffed level

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 In [[NetHack 3.4.3]] and earlier versions, including some variants based on those versions, puddings, oozes and slimes leave ordinary corpses, enabling [[pudding farming]]&mdash;pudding farming was heavily nerfed in [[NetHack 3.6.0]] with the inclusion of globs. It is also possible to wish for a corpse of a corpseless monster in wizard mode by using the form "<monstername> corpse"&mdash;this no longer works as of [[NetHack 3.6.6]].
-In [[NetHack 3.6.1]] and earlier versions, a [[mimic]] disguising itself as a corpse can pick a type of monster that is normally corpseless&mdash;this is fixed in [[NetHack 3.6.2]] via {{commit|cd6b5ef93342826cdaf9771ee021c78304ac25b3}}.{{refsrc|doc/fixes36.2|415|nethack=3.6.7}}
+In [[NetHack 3.6.1]] and earlier versions, a [[mimic]] disguising itself as a corpse can pick a type of monster that is normally corpseless&mdash;this is fixed in [[NetHack 3.6.2]] via {{commit|cd6b5ef93342826cdaf9771ee021c78304ac25b3}}.{{refsrc|doc/fixes36.2|415|nethack=3.6.7}} Additionally, in these versions it is possible to create a corpse of a corpseless monster by setting up a level full of monsters, going up one level, and then making a monster fall into a hole.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/9w36sp/i_ascended_with_some_tins_of_grid_bug_meat_in_my/</ref>{{refsrc|doc/fixes36.2|206|nethack=3.6.7}}
 ==References==

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 | [[green slime]]                                                   || [[glob]] of green slime               || None
 |-
-| [[paper golem]]                                                   || 1-4 [[scrolls of blank paper]]        || Must not take [[Fire (element)|fire]] damage
+| [[paper golem]]                                                   || 1-4 [[scrolls of blank paper]]        || Must not burn up completely from [[Fire (element)|fire]] damage
 |-
 | [[gold golem]]                                                    || 99-199 [[gold pieces]]                || None

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−	In ''[[NetHack]]'', a '''corpseless''' [[monster]] is a monster that does not leave behind a [[corpse]] when they are killed under normal circumstances: certain monsters designated as corpseless may leave behind another item in place of a standard corpse, while others will not drop anything at all (including [[death drop]]s) besides the inventory they were carrying. A monster that is corpseless is ~~marked~~ by '''<tt>G_NOCORPSE</tt>''' ~~within their entry in [[monst.c]]~~.	+	In ''[[NetHack]]'', a '''corpseless''' [[monster]] is a monster that does not leave behind a [[corpse]] when they are killed under normal circumstances: certain monsters designated as corpseless may leave behind another item in place of a standard corpse, while others will not drop anything at all (including [[death drop]]s) besides the inventory they were carrying.
		+
		+	Within <tt>[[monst.c]]</tt>, a monster that is corpseless is designated by the '''<tt>G_NOCORPSE</tt>''' flag.

	==List of corpseless monsters==		==List of corpseless monsters==

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 ==History==
-In [[NetHack 3.4.3]] and earlier versions, including some variants based on those versions, puddings, oozes and slimes leave ordinary corpses rather than globs, enabling [[pudding farming]]. It is also possible to wish for a corpse of a corpseless monster in wizard mode by using the form "<monstername> corpse"&mdash;this no longer works as of [[NetHack 3.6.6]].
+In [[NetHack 3.4.3]] and earlier versions, including some variants based on those versions, puddings, oozes and slimes leave ordinary corpses, enabling [[pudding farming]]&mdash;pudding farming was heavily nerfed in [[NetHack 3.6.0]] with the inclusion of globs. It is also possible to wish for a corpse of a corpseless monster in wizard mode by using the form "<monstername> corpse"&mdash;this no longer works as of [[NetHack 3.6.6]].
 In [[NetHack 3.6.1]] and earlier versions, a [[mimic]] disguising itself as a corpse can pick a type of monster that is normally corpseless&mdash;this is fixed in [[NetHack 3.6.2]] via {{commit|cd6b5ef93342826cdaf9771ee021c78304ac25b3}}.{{refsrc|doc/fixes36.2|415|nethack=3.6.7}}
-Prior to [[NetHack 3.6.2]], it was possible to create a corpse of a corpseless monster by setting up a level full of monsters, going up one level, and then making a monster fall into a hole.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/9w36sp/i_ascended_with_some_tins_of_grid_bug_meat_in_my/</ref>{{refsrc|doc/fixes36.2|206|nethack=3.6.7}}
+Prior to [[NetHack 3.6.2]], it is possible to create a corpse of a corpseless monster by setting up a level full of monsters, going up one level, and then making a monster fall into a hole.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/9w36sp/i_ascended_with_some_tins_of_grid_bug_meat_in_my/</ref>{{refsrc|doc/fixes36.2|206|nethack=3.6.7}}
 ==References==

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 | [[green slime]]                                                   || [[glob]] of green slime               || None
 |-
-| [[paper golem]]                                                   || 1-4 [[scrolls of blank paper]]        || Must not take [[fire]] damage
+| [[paper golem]]                                                   || 1-4 [[scrolls of blank paper]]        || Must not take [[Fire (element)|fire]] damage
 |-
 | [[gold golem]]                                                    || 99-199 [[gold pieces]]                || None

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 * {{monsymlink|Ashikaga Takauji}}
 * {{monsymlink|Dark One}}
 * {{monsymlink|Thoth Amon}}
 * {{white|'}} all [[golem]]s except for [[flesh golem]]s

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	* {{white\|&}} all [[Demon (monster class)\|demons]] except the [[Rider]]s		* {{white\|&}} all [[Demon (monster class)\|demons]] except the [[Rider]]s

		+	===Special death drops===
	Various monsters, including several types of [[undead]], are special-cased to leave behind particular items instead of regular corpses when killed of destroyed, which can include corpses corresponding to a different monster—for example, a kobold zombie that is destroyed can leave behind an old [[kobold]] corpse. A [[hero]] that is polymorphed into a monster with a [[digestion attack]] and [[engulf]]s a corpseless monster will not gain any [[nutrition]] or [[intrinsic]]s;{{refsrc\|src/uhitm.c\|2209\|nethack=3.6.7}} as with any other monster that would otherwise leave a corpse, special death drops will not occur. Digesting a corpseless monster also breaks the [[foodless]] [[conduct]], but preserves [[vegan]] and [[vegetarian]] conducts.{{refsrc\|src/eat.c\|487\|nethack=3.6.7}}		Various monsters, including several types of [[undead]], are special-cased to leave behind particular items instead of regular corpses when killed of destroyed, which can include corpses corresponding to a different monster—for example, a kobold zombie that is destroyed can leave behind an old [[kobold]] corpse. A [[hero]] that is polymorphed into a monster with a [[digestion attack]] and [[engulf]]s a corpseless monster will not gain any [[nutrition]] or [[intrinsic]]s;{{refsrc\|src/uhitm.c\|2209\|nethack=3.6.7}} as with any other monster that would otherwise leave a corpse, special death drops will not occur. Digesting a corpseless monster also breaks the [[foodless]] [[conduct]], but preserves [[vegan]] and [[vegetarian]] conducts.{{refsrc\|src/eat.c\|487\|nethack=3.6.7}}

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-'''Corpseless''' monsters are those that do not leave [[corpse]]s or [[glob]]s:
+In ''[[NetHack]]'', a '''corpseless''' [[monster]] is a monster that does not leave behind a [[corpse]] when they are killed under normal circumstances: certain monsters designated as corpseless may leave behind another item in place of a standard corpse, while others will not drop anything at all (including [[death drop]]s) besides the inventory they were carrying. A monster that is corpseless is marked by '''<tt>G_NOCORPSE</tt>''' within their entry in [[monst.c]].
 * {{monsymlink|grid bug}}s
-* {{white|y}} [[light (monster class)|lights]]
+* {{white|y}} all [[Light (monster class)|lights]]
-* {{white|e}} [[sphere]]s, except [[floating eye]]s
+* {{white|A}} all [[angelic being]]s
-* {{white|v}} [[vortices]]
+* {{white|E}} all [[elemental]]s except [[stalker]]s
-* {{white|'}} [[golem]]s, except for [[flesh golem]]s (although most leave characteristic item drops)
+* {{white|L}} all [[Lich (monster class)|liches]]
-* {{monsymlink|manes}} and {{monsymlink|lemure}}s
+* {{white|M}} all [[mummies]]
-* {{monsymlink|ghoul}}s
+* {{white|P}} all [[Pudding or ooze|puddings and oozes]]
-* {{monsymlink|barrow wight}}s
+* {{white|V}} all [[Vampire (monster class)|vampires]]
-* {{white|L}} [[lich (monster class)|liches]]
+* {{monsymlink|barrow wight}}s and {{monsymlink|Nazgul}}
-* {{monsymlink|Nazgul}}
+* {{white|Z}} all [[Zombie (monster class)|zombies]]
 * {{monsymlink|ghost}}s and [[shade]]s
 * {{monsymlink|Ashikaga Takauji}}
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 * {{monsymlink|Nalzok}}
 * {{monsymlink|Thoth Amon}}
-* {{white|E}} [[elemental]]s, except [[stalker]]s
+* {{white|'}} all [[golem]]s except for [[flesh golem]]s
-* {{white|A}} [[angelic being]]s
+* {{white|&amp;}} all [[Demon (monster class)|demons]] except the [[Rider]]s
-Such corpses simply cannot be created in a normal game.
+Various monsters, including several types of [[undead]], are special-cased to leave behind particular items instead of regular corpses when killed of destroyed, which can include corpses corresponding to a different monster&mdash;for example, a kobold zombie that is destroyed can leave behind an old [[kobold]] corpse. A [[hero]] that is polymorphed into a monster with a [[digestion attack]] and [[engulf]]s a corpseless monster will not gain any [[nutrition]] or [[intrinsic]]s;{{refsrc|src/uhitm.c|2209|nethack=3.6.7}} as with any other monster that would otherwise leave a corpse, special death drops will not occur. Digesting a corpseless monster also breaks the [[foodless]] [[conduct]], but preserves [[vegan]] and [[vegetarian]] conducts.{{refsrc|src/eat.c|487|nethack=3.6.7}}
-Several monsters, such as [[purple worm]]s and [[trapper]]s, can swallow and [[digest]] monsters, including corpseless monster. If you are polymorphed into such a monster, digesting a corpseless monster yields no [[nutrition]] and confers no [[intrinsic]]s.{{refsrc|src/uhitm.c|2208|nethack=3.6.7}}. This breaks [[foodless]] conduct but preserves [[vegan]] and [[vegetarian]] conducts.{{refsrc|src/eat.c|484|nethack=3.6.7}}
+Below is a list of monsters that leave behind special death drops instead of corpses and what those drops are, as well as any additional conditions required for the death drops to occur:
-Several types of [[undead]] monsters revert to ordinary corpses when destroyed. For example, a kobold zombie does not leave a kobold zombie corse, but rather an old and [[tainted]] kobold corpse. {{refsrc|src/mon.c|145|nethack=3.6.7}} These monsters are:
+{| class="prettytable"
+! Monster(s)                                                        !! Death drop(s)                         !! Special conditions
-* {{white|Z}} [[zombie]]s
+|-
-* {{white|M}} [[mummy|mummies]]
+| [[kobold mummy]]<br>[[kobold zombie]]                             || old [[kobold]] corpse                 || None
-* {{white|V}} [[vampire (monster class)|vampires]]
+|-
 ==History==
-In [[NetHack 3.4.3]], puddings, oozes, and slimes left ordinary corpses rather than globs, enabling [[pudding farming]].
+In [[NetHack 3.6.1]] and earlier versions, a mimic disguising itself as a corpse can pick a type of monster that is normally [[corpseless]]&mdash;this is fixed in [[NetHack 3.6.2]] via {{commit|cd6b5ef93342826cdaf9771ee021c78304ac25b3}}.{{refsrc|doc/fixes36.2|415|nethack=3.6.7}}
 Prior to [[NetHack 3.6.2]], it was possible to create a corpse of a corpseless monster by setting up a level full of monsters, going up one level, and then making a monster fall into a hole.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/9w36sp/i_ascended_with_some_tins_of_grid_bug_meat_in_my/</ref>{{refsrc|doc/fixes36.2|206|nethack=3.6.7}}
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 ==References==
 <references />
+{{nethack-367}}
 [[Category:Monster attributes]]

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 Prior to [[NetHack 3.6.2]], if a [[mimic]] concealed itself as a corpse, it could pick a corpseless monster type.{{refsrc|doc/fixes36.2|415|nethack=3.6.7}}
-Prior to [[NetHack 3.6.2]], it was possible to create a corpse of a corpseless monster by setting up a level full of monsters, going up one level, and then making a monster fall into a hole.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/9w36sp/i_ascended_with_some_tins_of_grid_bug_meat_in_my/</ref>.
+Prior to [[NetHack 3.6.2]], it was possible to create a corpse of a corpseless monster by setting up a level full of monsters, going up one level, and then making a monster fall into a hole.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/nethack/comments/9w36sp/i_ascended_with_some_tins_of_grid_bug_meat_in_my/</ref>{{refsrc|doc/fixes36.2|206|nethack=3.6.7}}
 ==References==