Curse-testing - Revision history

Ion frigate: you don't have to remember

2023-09-05T06:07:26Z

you don't have to remember

Umbire the Phantom at 17:31, 26 March 2022

2022-03-26T17:31:16Z

Nethacker: /* Pet testing */

2022-01-29T10:19:18Z

‎Pet testing

Nethacker: /* Pet testing */

2022-01-29T10:19:09Z

‎Pet testing

Nethacker: /* Ways that work on all items */

2022-01-29T10:18:51Z

‎Ways that work on all items

Nethacker: /* Pet testing */

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‎Pet testing

Nethacker: /* Pet testing */

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‎Pet testing

Nethacker: /* Pet testing */

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‎Pet testing

Nethacker: /* Identify */

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‎Identify

Nethacker: /* Identify */

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‎Identify

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 ===Try to make a monster wield it===
-Drop the weapon in front of a monster that will pick it up and wield it. If the weapon "welds itself to the monster's hands" or something similar, it's cursed.
+Drop the weapon in front of a monster that will pick it up and wield it. If the weapon "welds itself to the monster's hands" or something similar, it's cursed; in this case, it will be formally identified as such.
 ===Throw projectiles===

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−	In many cases, you want to test whether or not items are [[cursed]]. ~~Here are~~ a ~~bunch~~ of ~~ways to do that, though this list is likely incomplete~~.	+	In ''[[NetHack]]'', there are many cases and scenarios where you will want to test whether or not items are [[cursed]]. Below is a non-exhaustive list of '''curse-testing''' methods.

	==Ways that work on all items==		==Ways that work on all items==

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 A [[pet]] will "move only reluctantly" over any stack or pile of objects that contains one or more cursed objects, as long as the pet was not whistled onto it (using a [[magic whistle]] or [[eucalyptus leaf]]) and the stack contains no food. Pets will greedily seek out and eat up food of their preferred types without regard to cursed items underneath or above the food. You can expedite testing by dropping objects in choke-points like doorways or corridors to force your pet to walk onto the object's tile while following you.
 <!-- Testing cursed pile of items takes a lot of time, while testing non-cursing pile of items is easy, so mass testing is not good, or at least it is not optimal to make pile of 5 items. -->
 If you pet steps on an item without the message, and there is no food at the pile, and you did not call it with magic whistle, then all the items in the stack are non-cursed.

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 A [[pet]] will "move only reluctantly" over any stack or pile of objects that contains one or more cursed objects, as long as the pet was not whistled onto it (using a [[magic whistle]] or [[eucalyptus leaf]]) and the stack contains no food. Pets will greedily seek out and eat up food of their preferred types without regard to cursed items underneath or above the food. You can expedite testing by dropping objects in choke-points like doorways or corridors to force your pet to walk onto the object's tile while following you.
 <!-- Testing cursed pile of items takes a lot of time, while testing non-cursing pile of items is easy, so mass testing is not good, or at least it is not optimal to make pile of 5 items. -->
 If you pet steps on an item without the message, and there is no food at the pile, and you did not call it with magic whistle, then all the items in the stack are non-cursed.

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 ===Pet testing===
 A [[pet]] will "move only reluctantly" over any stack or pile of objects that contains one or more cursed objects, as long as the pet was not whistled onto it (using a [[magic whistle]] or [[eucalyptus leaf]]) and the stack contains no food. Pets will greedily seek out and eat up food of their preferred types without regard to cursed items underneath or above the food. You can expedite testing by dropping objects in choke-points like doorways or corridors to force your pet to walk onto the object's tile while following you.
 <!-- Testing cursed pile of items takes a lot of time, while testing non-cursing pile of items is easy, so mass testing is not good, or at least it is not optimal to make pile of 5 items. -->
 ===Identify===

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	A [[pet]] will "move only reluctantly" over any stack or pile of objects that contains one or more cursed objects, as long as the pet was not whistled onto it (using a [[magic whistle]] or [[eucalyptus leaf]]) and the stack contains no food. Pets will greedily seek out and eat up food of their preferred types without regard to cursed items underneath or above the food. You can expedite testing by dropping objects in choke-points like doorways or corridors to force your pet to walk onto the object's tile while following you.		A [[pet]] will "move only reluctantly" over any stack or pile of objects that contains one or more cursed objects, as long as the pet was not whistled onto it (using a [[magic whistle]] or [[eucalyptus leaf]]) and the stack contains no food. Pets will greedily seek out and eat up food of their preferred types without regard to cursed items underneath or above the food. You can expedite testing by dropping objects in choke-points like doorways or corridors to force your pet to walk onto the object's tile while following you.
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		+	<!-- Testing cursed pile of items takes a lot of time, while testing non-cursing pile of items is easy, so mass testing is not good, or at least it is not optimal to make pile of 5 items. -->

	===Identify===		===Identify===

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	A [[pet]] will "move only reluctantly" over any stack or pile of objects that contains one or more cursed objects, as long as the pet was not whistled onto it (using a [[magic whistle]] or [[eucalyptus leaf]]) and the stack contains no food. Pets will greedily seek out and eat up food of their preferred types without regard to cursed items underneath or above the food. You can expedite testing by dropping objects in choke-points like doorways or corridors to force your pet to walk onto the object's tile while following you.		A [[pet]] will "move only reluctantly" over any stack or pile of objects that contains one or more cursed objects, as long as the pet was not whistled onto it (using a [[magic whistle]] or [[eucalyptus leaf]]) and the stack contains no food. Pets will greedily seek out and eat up food of their preferred types without regard to cursed items underneath or above the food. You can expedite testing by dropping objects in choke-points like doorways or corridors to force your pet to walk onto the object's tile while following you.
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−	~~<!--~~
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−	~~When mass-testing loot, the optimal batch size is 5 items. Then narrow down if any is cursed.~~
−
−	~~{\| class="wikitable"~~
−	~~!#Items, chance cursed!!Regular armor!!Potion, scroll\|\|ring~~
−	\|-
−	~~\|1\|\|13.2%\|\|12.5%\|\|28.5%~~
−	\|-
−	~~\|2\|\|24.6%\|\|23.4%\|\|48.9%~~
−	\|-
−	~~\|3\|\|34.6%\|\|33.0%\|\|63.4%~~
−	\|-
−	~~\|4\|\|43.2%\|\|41.4%\|\|73.8%~~
−	\|-
−	~~\|5\|\|50.7%\|\|48.7%\|\|81.3%~~
−	\|-
−	~~\|6\|\|57.2%\|\|55.1%\|\|86.6%~~
−	\|-
−	~~\|7\|\|62.8%\|\|60.7%\|\|90.4%~~
−	\|}
−
−	~~-->~~

	===Identify===		===Identify===

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 A [[pet]] will "move only reluctantly" over any stack or pile of objects that contains one or more cursed objects, as long as the pet was not whistled onto it (using a [[magic whistle]] or [[eucalyptus leaf]]) and the stack contains no food. Pets will greedily seek out and eat up food of their preferred types without regard to cursed items underneath or above the food. You can expedite testing by dropping objects in choke-points like doorways or corridors to force your pet to walk onto the object's tile while following you.
 When mass-testing loot, the optimal batch size is 5 items. Then narrow down if any is cursed.
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 |7||62.8%||60.7%||90.4%
 |}
 ===Identify===

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 ===Identify===
-Reading a [[scroll of identify]] (or casting the spell, or getting the gift from a [[throne]]) will reveal the [[beautitude]] of any items identified. If you can cast identify at low failure rates and want to know the status of something now, this can actually be very useful.
+Reading a [[scroll of identify]] (or casting the spell, or getting the gift from a [[throne]]) will reveal the [[BUC]] of any items identified. If you can cast identify at low failure rates and want to know the status of something now, this can actually be very useful.
 ===Holy or unholy water===