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 A '''fire giant''', {{monsym|fire giant}}, is a type of [[monster]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. The fire giant is a [[giant humanoid]] that is a slightly stronger form of [[Giant (monster attribute)|giant]] - they have [[infravision]] and can be seen via infravision. Like all giants, fire giants will seek out [[gems]], weapons and other items to pick up, and can move over [[boulder]]s, pick them up and throw them.
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 ===dNetHack===
-In [[dNetHack]], [[notdNetHack]] and [[notnotdNetHack]], fire giants are chaotic-aligned and vulnerable to [[iron]]. They are always generated with a [[club]] and [[leather armor]] made to fit their size - this is independent of the existing chance of being generated with a club, due to an oversight in the code.
+In [[dNetHack]], [[notdNetHack]] and [[notnotdNetHack]], fire giants are chaotic-aligned and vulnerable to [[iron]]. They are always generated with a [[club]] and [[leather armor]] made to fit their size&mdash;this is independent of the existing chance of being generated with a club, due to an oversight in the code.
 Fire giants may appear among the court of a [[titan]]-ruled [[Throne room#dNetHack|throne room]].
-[[Sol Valtiva (dNetHack)|Sol Valtiva]] is a chaotic [[artifact]] [[two-handed sword]] that is made of [[obsidian]] and favors fire giants, serving as the signature weapon of Lord Surtur.
+[[Sol Valtiva (dNetHack)|Sol Valtiva]] is a chaotic [[artifact]] [[two-handed sword]] that is made of [[Obsidian (material)|obsidian]] and favors fire giants, serving as the signature weapon of Lord Surtur.
 ===EvilHack===

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 Fire giants may appear among the hostile giant humanoids generated in [[throne room]]s at dungeon levels 13 and below, and can also appear among the monsters randomly generated by either [[sitting]] on a [[throne]] or [[looting]] it while the hero is [[confused]] and carrying gold (provided there is no [[chest]] on the level).{{refsrc|src/mkroom.c|742|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/sit.c|205|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
-The fire giant is the second [[quest]] monster for Valkyries, and makes up {{frac|24|175}} (~13.71%) of the monsters randomly generated on the [[Valkyrie quest]]. Several hostile fire giants are also generated on level creation one each of the quest floors: two on the home level, one on the upper filler level, seven on the locate level, three each on the lower filler level(s), and twelve on the goal level. Fire giants may also appear among the random {{white|H}} that are part of the second quest monster class for the Valkyrie quest and make up {{frac|6|175}} (~3.42%) of the monsters that are randomly generated there. Fire giants may additionally appear among the random {{white|H}} that are part of the second quest monster class for [[Cavepeople]] and make up {{frac|6|175}} (~3.42%) of the monsters that are randomly generated on the [[Caveman quest]].
+The fire giant is the second [[quest]] monster for Valkyries, and makes up {{frac|24|175}} (~13.71%) of the monsters randomly generated on the [[Valkyrie quest]]. Several hostile fire giants are also generated on level creation on each of the quest floors: two on the home level, one on the upper filler level, seven on the locate level, three each on the lower filler level(s), and twelve on the goal level. Fire giants may also appear among the random {{white|H}} that are part of the second quest monster class for the Valkyrie quest and make up {{frac|6|175}} (~3.42%) of the monsters that are randomly generated there. Fire giants may additionally appear among the random {{white|H}} that are part of the second quest monster class for [[Cavepeople]] and make up {{frac|6|175}} (~3.42%) of the monsters that are randomly generated on the [[Caveman quest]].
 Fire giants have a {{frac|2}} chance (50%) of [[Monster starting inventory|being generated with]] either a boulder or a [[club]] with equal probability, and an independent chance of being generated with a small assortment of gems.{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|183|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|706|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} They are eligible for [[offensive item]]s, [[defensive item]]s, and [[miscellaneous item]]s.

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 Fire giants may appear among the hostile giant humanoids generated in [[throne room]]s at dungeon levels 13 and below, and can also appear among the monsters randomly generated by either [[sitting]] on a [[throne]] or [[looting]] it while the hero is [[confused]] and carrying gold (provided there is no [[chest]] on the level).{{refsrc|src/mkroom.c|742|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/sit.c|205|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
-The fire giant is the second [[quest]] monster for Valkyries, and makes up {{frac|24|175}} (~13.71%) of the monsters randomly generated on the [[Valkyrie quest]]. Several hostile fire giants are also generated on level creation one each of the quest floors: two on the home level, one on the upper filler level, seven on the locate level, three each on the lower filler level(s), and twelve on the goal level. Fire giants may also appear among the random {{white|H}} that are part of the second quest monster class for the Caveman quest and make up {{frac|6|175}} (~3.42%) of the monsters that are randomly generated there. Fire giants may additionally appear among the random {{white|H}} that are part of the second quest monster class for [[Cavepeople]] and make up {{frac|6|175}} (~3.42%) of the monsters that are randomly generated on the [[Caveman quest]].
+The fire giant is the second [[quest]] monster for Valkyries, and makes up {{frac|24|175}} (~13.71%) of the monsters randomly generated on the [[Valkyrie quest]]. Several hostile fire giants are also generated on level creation one each of the quest floors: two on the home level, one on the upper filler level, seven on the locate level, three each on the lower filler level(s), and twelve on the goal level. Fire giants may also appear among the random {{white|H}} that are part of the second quest monster class for the Valkyrie quest and make up {{frac|6|175}} (~3.42%) of the monsters that are randomly generated there. Fire giants may additionally appear among the random {{white|H}} that are part of the second quest monster class for [[Cavepeople]] and make up {{frac|6|175}} (~3.42%) of the monsters that are randomly generated on the [[Caveman quest]].
 Fire giants have a {{frac|2}} chance (50%) of [[Monster starting inventory|being generated with]] either a boulder or a [[club]] with equal probability, and an independent chance of being generated with a small assortment of gems.{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|183|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|706|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} They are eligible for [[offensive item]]s, [[defensive item]]s, and [[miscellaneous item]]s.

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-A '''fire giant''', {{monsym|fire giant}}, is a type of [[monster]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. The fire giant is a [[giant humanoid]] that is a slightly stronger form of [[Giant (monster attribute)|giant]] - it has [[infravision]] and can be seen via infravision. Like all giants, fire giants will seek out [[gems]], weapons and other items to pick up, and can move over [[boulder]]s, pick them up and throw them.
+A '''fire giant''', {{monsym|fire giant}}, is a type of [[monster]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. The fire giant is a [[giant humanoid]] that is a slightly stronger form of [[Giant (monster attribute)|giant]] - they have [[infravision]] and can be seen via infravision. Like all giants, fire giants will seek out [[gems]], weapons and other items to pick up, and can move over [[boulder]]s, pick them up and throw them.
 A fire giant has a single weapon attack, and possesses [[fire resistance]].
-[[Eating]] a fire giant [[corpse]] or [[tin]] has a {{frac|3|10}} chance (30%) of granting fire resistance, and an independent {{frac|2}} chance (50%) of increasing a character's [[strength]].
+[[Eating]] a fire giant [[corpse]] or [[tin]] has a {{frac|3|10}} chance (30%) of granting fire resistance, and an independent {{frac|2}} chance (50%) of increasing a [[hero]]'s [[strength]].
 [[Lord Surtur]], the [[Valkyrie]] [[quest nemesis]], is a [[unique]] fire giant.
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 ==Generation==
-Fire giants may generate as peaceful towards lawful characters, and can generate in small [[groups]] of two to four. Hostile fire giants can be generated by the [[summon nasties]] [[monster spell]].
+Fire giants may generate as peaceful towards lawful heroes, and can generate in small [[groups]] of two to four.
-Fire giants may appear among the hostile giant humanoids generated in [[throne room]]s at dungeon levels 13 and below, and can also appear among the monsters randomly generated by [[looting]] a [[throne]] while [[confused]] and carrying gold (provided there is no [[chest]] on the level).{{refsrc|src/mkroom.c|745|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
+Hostile fire giants may be generated by the [[summon nasties]] monster spell cast by a hostile spellcaster that is either chaotic or in [[Gehennom]].{{refsrc|src/wizard.c|43|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
-The fire giant is the second [[quest]] monster for Valkyries, and makes up {{frac|24|175}} (~13.71%) of the monsters randomly generated on the [[Valkyrie quest]]. Several fire giants are also generated on level creation one each of the quest floors: two on the home level, one on the upper filler level, seven on the locate level, three each on the lower filler level(s), and twelve on the goal level. Fire giants may also appear among the random {{white|H}} that are part of the second quest monster class for the Caveman quest, and make up {{frac|6|175}} (~3.42%) of the monsters that are randomly generated there. Fire giants may additionally appear among the random {{white|H}} that are part of the second quest monster class for [[Cavepeople]], and make up {{frac|6|175}} (~3.42%) of the monsters that are randomly generated on the [[Caveman quest]].
+Fire giants may appear among the hostile giant humanoids generated in [[throne room]]s at dungeon levels 13 and below, and can also appear among the monsters randomly generated by either [[sitting]] on a [[throne]] or [[looting]] it while the hero is [[confused]] and carrying gold (provided there is no [[chest]] on the level).{{refsrc|src/mkroom.c|742|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/sit.c|205|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
 Fire giants have a {{frac|2}} chance (50%) of [[Monster starting inventory|being generated with]] either a boulder or a [[club]] with equal probability, and an independent chance of being generated with a small assortment of gems.{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|183|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|706|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} They are eligible for [[offensive item]]s, [[defensive item]]s, and [[miscellaneous item]]s.
 ==Strategy==
-Fire giants are stronger and faster than [[hill giant]]s, and have the same capacity for generating with dangerous [[wand]]s, requiring a bit more care from characters that encounter them. Valkyries in particular may want to consider [[reflection]], [[levitation]] and/or [[water walking]] before entering their quest: fire giants on their own are not particularly dangerous, but the attack wands they may generate with can include the [[wand of death]] or a [[wand of fire]] that might turn the [[ice]] below the character into a [[Moat|watery abyss]] and possibly [[Drowning|their grave]].
+Fire giants are stronger and faster than [[hill giant]]s, and have the same capacity for generating with dangerous [[wand]]s, requiring a bit more care from characters that encounter them. Valkyries in particular may want to consider [[reflection]], [[levitation]] and/or [[water walking]] before entering their quest: fire giants on their own are not particularly dangerous, but the attack wands they may generate with can include the [[wand of death]] or a [[wand of fire]] that might turn the [[ice]] below the hero into a [[Moat|watery abyss]] and possibly [[Drowning|their grave]].
 Conversely, fire giants can also provide a valuable and plentiful source of fire resistance, and characters can use the wands they carry against them to exploit their low [[Magic resistance (monster)|MR score]] - Valkyries in particular can use fire giant meat to make the [[lava]] and [[fire ant]]s potentially more bearable, and will especially appreciate a [[wand of cold]] to deal with other quest hostiles. It may be worthwhile for a Valkyrie to camp in the home level's central building and [[farm]] the corpses for additional strength, especially if they can obtain a [[tinning kit]].
-{{upcoming|3.7.0|Knockback can make fire giants and other large monsters exceedingly dangerous if the player character is positioned between them and a hazard, such as [[pool]]s of water or [[lava]]. This is especially true for Valkyries on the lava-filled floors of their quest.}}
+{{upcoming|3.7.0|Knockback can make fire giants and other large monsters exceedingly dangerous if the player character is positioned between them and a hazard, such as [[pool]]s of water or [[lava]]. This is especially true for Valkyries on the water-and-lava-filled floors of their quest.}}
 ==History==
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 ==Encyclopedia entry==
-{{encyclopedia|Giants have always walked the earth, though they are rare in these times.  They range in size from little over nine feet to a towering twenty feet or more.  The larger ones use huge boulders as weapons, hurling them over large distances.  All types of giants share a love for men - roasted, boiled, or fried.  Their table manners are legendary.
+{{encyclopedia-redirect|giant humanoid}}
 ==References==

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 The fire giant is the second [[quest]] monster for Valkyries, and makes up {{frac|24|175}} (~13.71%) of the monsters randomly generated on the [[Valkyrie quest]]. Several fire giants are also generated on level creation one each of the quest floors: two on the home level, one on the upper filler level, seven on the locate level, three each on the lower filler level(s), and twelve on the goal level. Fire giants may also appear among the random {{white|H}} that are part of the second quest monster class for the Caveman quest, and make up {{frac|6|175}} (~3.42%) of the monsters that are randomly generated there. Fire giants may additionally appear among the random {{white|H}} that are part of the second quest monster class for [[Cavepeople]], and make up {{frac|6|175}} (~3.42%) of the monsters that are randomly generated on the [[Caveman quest]].
-Fire giants have a {{frac|2}} chance (50%) of [[Monster starting inventory|being generated with]] a boulder, and an independent chance of being generated with a small assortment of gems.{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|183|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|706|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} They are eligible for [[offensive item]]s, [[defensive item]]s, and [[miscellaneous item]]s.
+Fire giants have a {{frac|2}} chance (50%) of [[Monster starting inventory|being generated with]] either a boulder or a [[club]] with equal probability, and an independent chance of being generated with a small assortment of gems.{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|183|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|706|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} They are eligible for [[offensive item]]s, [[defensive item]]s, and [[miscellaneous item]]s.
 ==Strategy==
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 ==Variants==
 ===UnNetHack===
 In [[UnNetHack]], a peaceful fire giant generates on the second alternate layout of [[Castle (UnNetHack)|the Castle]] in the narrower wing at level creation.
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 ===EvilHack===
 In [[EvilHack]], fire giants are capable of entering [[Berserk (EvilHack)|berserker rages]], increasing their damage but making them more likely to hit monsters around them besides their intended target.
 ==Encyclopedia entry==

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	The fire giant is the second [[quest]] monster for Valkyries, and makes up {{frac\|24\|175}} (~13.71%) of the monsters randomly generated on the [[Valkyrie quest]]. Several fire giants are also generated on level creation one each of the quest floors: two on the home level, one on the upper filler level, seven on the locate level, three each on the lower filler level(s), and twelve on the goal level. Fire giants may also appear among the random {{white\|H}} that are part of the second quest monster class for the Caveman quest, and make up {{frac\|6\|175}} (~3.42%) of the monsters that are randomly generated there. Fire giants may additionally appear among the random {{white\|H}} that are part of the second quest monster class for [[Cavepeople]], and make up {{frac\|6\|175}} (~3.42%) of the monsters that are randomly generated on the [[Caveman quest]].		The fire giant is the second [[quest]] monster for Valkyries, and makes up {{frac\|24\|175}} (~13.71%) of the monsters randomly generated on the [[Valkyrie quest]]. Several fire giants are also generated on level creation one each of the quest floors: two on the home level, one on the upper filler level, seven on the locate level, three each on the lower filler level(s), and twelve on the goal level. Fire giants may also appear among the random {{white\|H}} that are part of the second quest monster class for the Caveman quest, and make up {{frac\|6\|175}} (~3.42%) of the monsters that are randomly generated there. Fire giants may additionally appear among the random {{white\|H}} that are part of the second quest monster class for [[Cavepeople]], and make up {{frac\|6\|175}} (~3.42%) of the monsters that are randomly generated on the [[Caveman quest]].
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		+	Fire giants have a {{frac\|2}} chance (50%) of [[Monster starting inventory\|being generated with]] a boulder, and an independent chance of being generated with a small assortment of gems.{{refsrc\|src/makemon.c\|183\|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}{{refsrc\|src/makemon.c\|706\|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} They are eligible for [[offensive item]]s, [[defensive item]]s, and [[miscellaneous item]]s.
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 [[Lord Surtur]], the [[Valkyrie]] [[quest nemesis]], is a [[unique]] fire giant.
-{{upcoming|3.7.0|The attacks of fire giants and other sufficiently large monsters can inflict knockback, sending targets flying one or more squares.}}
+{{upcoming|3.7.0|The attacks of fire giants and other sufficiently large monsters can inflict knockback, sending targets flying one or more squares.
 ==Generation==
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 Conversely, fire giants can also provide a valuable and plentiful source of fire resistance - Valkyries in particular can use fire giant meat to make the [[lava]] and [[fire ant]]s potentially more bearable, and can use the wands they carry against them and other hostiles, especially a [[wand of cold]]. It may be worthwhile for a Valkyrie to camp in the home level's central building and [[farm]] the corpses for additional strength, especially if they can obtain a [[tinning kit]].
-{{upcoming|3.7.0|Fire giants and other large humanoids can wear mummy wrappings.
+{{upcoming|3.7.0|Knockback can make fire giants and other large monsters exceedingly dangerous if the player character is positioned between them and a hazard, such as [[pool]]s of water or [[lava]]. This is especially true for Valkyries on the lava-filled floors of their quest.}}
 ==History==

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-The '''fire giant''', {{monsym|fire giant}}, is a type of [[monster]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. They are [[giant]]s with a single weapon attack and [[fire resistance]], and as with all giants, they can pick up and throw [[boulder]]s. [[Lord Surtur]], the [[Valkyrie]] [[quest nemesis]], is a [[unique]] fire giant.
+A '''fire giant''', {{monsym|fire giant}}, is a type of [[monster]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. The fire giant is a [[giant humanoid]] that is a slightly stronger form of [[Giant (monster attribute)|giant]] - it has [[infravision]] and can be seen via infravision. Like all giants, fire giants will seek out [[gems]], weapons and other items to pick up, and can move over [[boulder]]s, pick them up and throw them.
-Eating a fire giant [[corpse]] or [[tin]] has a {{frac|3|10}} chance of conveying [[fire resistance]], independent of the {{frac|2}} chance of increasing [[strength]] shared with all giants.
+A fire giant has a single weapon attack, and possesses [[fire resistance]].
 ==Generation==
-Like other giants, fire giants can appear in [[groups]] and [[Monster starting inventory|may be generated with]] a small assortment of [[gems]], along with the standard {{frac|2}} chance of receiving a boulder. They may also be generated in [[throne room]]s, becoming eligible as early as dungeon level 13, and are eligible for the [[summon nasties]] [[monster spell]].
+Fire giants may generate as peaceful towards lawful characters, and can generate in small [[groups]] of two to four. Hostile fire giants can be generated by the [[summon nasties]] [[monster spell]].
-Many guaranteed fire giants are generated during the [[Valkyrie quest]], and they are the second quest-specific monster for the branch, making up 14% of all generated monsters there.
+The fire giant is the second [[quest]] monster for Valkyries, and makes up {{frac|24|175}} (~13.71%) of the monsters randomly generated on the [[Valkyrie quest]]. Several fire giants are also generated on level creation one each of the quest floors: two on the home level, one on the upper filler level, seven on the locate level, three each on the lower filler level(s), and twelve on the goal level. Fire giants may also appear among the random {{white|H}} that are part of the second quest monster class for the Caveman quest, and make up {{frac|6|175}} (~3.42%) of the monsters that are randomly generated there. Fire giants may additionally appear among the random {{white|H}} that are part of the second quest monster class for [[Cavepeople]], and make up {{frac|6|175}} (~3.42%) of the monsters that are randomly generated on the [[Caveman quest]].
 ==Strategy==
-{{main|Giant#Strategy}}
+Fire giants are stronger and faster than [[hill giant]]s, and have the same capacity for generating with dangerous wands, requiring a bit more care from characters that encounter them. Valkyries in particular may want to consider [[reflection]], [[levitation]] and/or [[water walking]] before entering their quest: fire giants on their own are not particularly dangerous, but the attack wands they may generate with can include the [[wand of death]] or a [[wand of fire]] that might turn the [[ice]] below the character into a [[Moat|watery abyss]] and possibly [[Drowning|their grave]].
-Valkyries should take care against the fire giants on their quest, and may want to consider obtaining [[reflection]] beforehand; fire giants themselves are not particularly dangerous, but the attack wands they can carry may include a [[wand of fire]] that might turn the [[ice]] below the player into a [[Moat|watery abyss]]&mdash;and possibly [[Drowning|their grave]]. Fire giants can also provide a valuable and plentiful source of fire resistance to handle the rest of the hazards on the quest, primarily the [[lava]] and [[fire ant]]s; the wands they drop can easily be turned against them, especially a [[wand of cold]].
+[[Sol Valtiva (dNetHack)|Sol Valtiva]] is a chaotic [[artifact]] [[two-handed sword]] that is made of [[obsidian]] and favors [[fire giant]]s, serving as the signature weapon of Lord Surtur.
-It may be worthwhile to camp in the home level's central building and [[farm]] the corpses for additional strength, especially if the player can get a [[tinning kit]].
+===EvilHack===
-== Encyclopedia entry ==
+==Encyclopedia entry==
 {{encyclopedia|Giants have always walked the earth, though they are rare in these times.  They range in size from little over nine feet to a towering twenty feet or more.  The larger ones use huge boulders as weapons, hurling them over large distances.  All types of giants share a love for men - roasted, boiled, or fried.  Their table manners are legendary.
 }}
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