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Umbire the Phantom: awhoops

2025-12-03T06:25:01Z

awhoops

Umbire the Phantom: some copyedit + a message

2025-12-03T06:24:36Z

some copyedit + a message

Umbire the Phantom: /* Description */ word choice

2025-12-03T04:41:56Z

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Umbire the Phantom: pothole

2025-01-05T14:53:08Z

pothole

Umbire the Phantom: /* Messages */ detail

2024-10-22T16:34:49Z

‎Messages: detail

Umbire the Phantom: add keyboard command + force-fight hatnote

2024-10-22T16:33:57Z

add keyboard command + force-fight hatnote

Umbire the Phantom: and the finishing touches

2024-10-21T19:22:31Z

and the finishing touches

Umbire the Phantom: FCU pass

2024-10-21T19:19:00Z

FCU pass

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Umbire the Phantom: languages + lede

2024-02-18T15:43:48Z

languages + lede

Umbire the Phantom: style guide on variants + var templates

2024-01-20T18:33:06Z

style guide on variants + var templates

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 {{languages}}
 {{tocright}}
-{{otheruses|manually attacking a chosen square|force-fighting}}
+{{otheruses|the extended command|manually attacking a chosen square|force-fighting}}
-{{for|the extended command|the force that sometimes prevents you from teleporting or climbing stairs|mysterious force}}
+{{for|the force that sometimes prevents you from teleporting or climbing stairs|mysterious force}}
 In ''[[NetHack]]'', the [[hero]] can '''force''' open locked [[container]]s using a weapon.

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 {{languages}}
 {{tocright}}
-{{otheruses|the extended command|the force that sometimes prevents you from teleporting or climbing stairs|mysterious force}}
+{{otheruses|manually attacking a chosen square|force-fighting}}
-{{for|manually attacking a chosen square|force-fighting}}
+{{for|the extended command|the force that sometimes prevents you from teleporting or climbing stairs|mysterious force}}
 In ''[[NetHack]]'', the [[hero]] can '''force''' open locked [[container]]s using a weapon.
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 ==Strategy==
-Forcing a container's lock is typically done in the very early game by a hero that did not start with an [[unlocking tool]] and has not yet obtained one - a spare, non-cursed [[orcish dagger]] or other [[junk]] edged weapon is usually the most suitable for this purpose, since at worst the hero will only break a weapon they were not intending to use anyway. Once unlocking tools are obtained, it becomes unnecessary to force locks.
+Forcing a container's lock is typically done in the very early game by a hero that did not start with an [[unlocking tool]] and has not yet obtained one&mdash;a spare, non-cursed [[orcish dagger]] or other [[junk]] edged weapon is usually the most suitable for this purpose, since at worst the hero will only break a weapon they were not intending to use anyway. Once unlocking tools are obtained, it becomes unnecessary to force locks.
 ==Messages==
-{{message|You decide not to force the issue.|A #force command was aborted because there is no locked container on the hero's square, or else they declined to force the lock of one that was present.}}
+{{message|There is a <chest/box> there, but its lock is already <unlocked/broken>.|The command is aborted because the container was already forced or unlocked.}}
 ==Variant==

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 * Bladed weapons will be used to pry the lock open, which carries the risk of that weapon breaking.{{refsrc|src/lock.c|236|nethack=3.6.7|name=bladeforce|comment=edged weapon odds}} For this purpose, a bladed weapon is any weapon that uses the following skills: [[dagger]], [[knife]], [[axe]], [[short sword]], [[broadsword]], [[long sword]], [[two-handed sword]], [[scimitar]], or [[saber]].
-* Blunt weapons will be used to smash the lock, which carries the risk of destroying the container and potentially its contents. For this purpose, a blunt weapon is any weapon that uses the following skills: [[club]], [[mace]], [[morning star]], [[hammer]], [[quarterstaff]], [[polearms]], [[spear]], [[trident]], or [[lance]].
+* Blunt weapons will be used to smash the lock, which carries the risk of destroying the container and potentially some or all of its contents. For this purpose, a blunt weapon is any weapon that uses the following skills: [[club]], [[mace]], [[morning star]], [[hammer]], [[quarterstaff]], [[polearms]], [[spear]], [[trident]], or [[lance]].
 Forcing a lock open with a weapon is an [[occupation]] that has a percentage change equal to <math>2x+1</math> of success each action, with <math>x</math> representing the amount of damage that the weapon deals against large monsters (e.g., a dagger deals 1d3 damage to large monsters, and thus has a <math>2*3+1=7%</math> chance of succeeding).{{refsrc|src/lock.c|596|nethack=3.6.7|comment=bladed weapons and doors}}

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 The hero will give up if their weapon breaks or if they have not succeeded after around 50 actions{{refsrc|src/lock.c|231|nethack=3.6.7|comment=50 action limit}}{{refsrc|src/lock.c|242|nethack=3.6.7|comment=weapon breaks mid-attempt}} - whether or not an attempt at forcing a lock succeeds, completing an attempt with an edged weapon exercises dexterity even if the weapon breaks, while using a blunt weapon exercises strength.{{refsrc|src/lock.c|232|nethack=3.6.7|comment=exercise even if the attempt fails}}{{refsrc|src/lock.c|246|nethack=3.6.7|comment=breaking edged weapon completes attempt and exercises dexterity}}{{refsrc|src/lock.c|256|nethack=3.6.7|comment=edged weapons exercise dexterity; blunt weapons exercise strength}}
-Successfully forcing and breaking a container's lock will prevent it from being locked again, unless the hero uses a [[wand of locking]] or the [[wizard lock]] spell on the container.{{refsrc|src/lock.c|169|nethack=3.6.7}} Breaking the lock of a container that belongs to a [[shop]] will incur a charge, and the hero will have to pay for any containers and contents that are destroyed in the process of forcing the lock.{{refsrc|src/lock.c|173|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/lock.c|197|nethack=3.6.7}}
+Successfully forcing and breaking a container's lock will prevent it from being locked again, unless the hero uses a [[wand of locking]] or the {{+ of|wizard lock}} spell on the container.{{refsrc|src/lock.c|169|nethack=3.6.7}} Breaking the lock of a container that belongs to a [[shop]] will incur a charge, and the hero will have to pay for any containers and contents that are destroyed in the process of forcing the lock.{{refsrc|src/lock.c|173|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/lock.c|197|nethack=3.6.7}}
 ===Bladed weapons===

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 ==Messages==
-{{message|You decide not to force the issue.|A #force command was aborted.}}
+{{message|You decide not to force the issue.|A #force command was aborted because there is no locked container on the hero's square, or else they declined to force the lock of one that was present.}}
 ==Variant==

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−	~~:''This article is about~~ the extended command~~. For~~ the force that sometimes prevents you from teleporting or climbing stairs~~, see [[~~mysterious force~~]].''~~	+	{{languages}}
		+	{{otheruses\|the extended command\|the force that sometimes prevents you from teleporting or climbing stairs\|mysterious force}}

	'''#force''' is the [[extended command]] to unlock a [[container]] with a [[weapon]], either by prying or by smashing the lock. It cannot be used on doors, you will instead get the message "You decide not to force the issue."		'''#force''' is the [[extended command]] to unlock a [[container]] with a [[weapon]], either by prying or by smashing the lock. It cannot be used on doors, you will instead get the message "You decide not to force the issue."

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 If you successfully force the lock using a blunt weapon, there is a 25% chance that you also destroy the container.{{refsrc|lock.c|168|comment=containers forced with blunt weapons destroyed 25% of the time}} If you do destroy the container, you will also destroy every potion in the container, and every non-potion in the container has a 25% chance of being destroyed.{{refsrc|lock.c|182|comment=contents of a destroyed container have 25% chance (or 100% for potions) of being destroyed}}
-==SLASH'EM==
+==Variant==
 In [[SLASH'EM]], you can also use the force command on doors to bash it down with your weapon.
 ==References==
 <references/>
 {{nethack-343}}
 [[Category:Extended commands]]