Forum:Getting into the Nethack source code - Revision history

OverWilliam at 14:28, 14 May 2009

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62.148.102.64 at 11:38, 14 May 2009

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Bhaak at 10:55, 14 May 2009

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Paxed: some linkage

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some linkage

OverWilliam at 20:29, 13 May 2009

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98.183.215.117 at 20:25, 13 May 2009

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98.183.215.117: Request for coding help

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Request for coding help

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SO: as the title says, I have just recently begun delving into the Nethack source code, and I must say it has been at once a very confusing and yet exceedingly interesting process. I have a little bit of past experience messing around with Python, and I can (mostly) ''read'' C (which is what most of Nethack is written in) but when it comes to making changes or adding items, which is exactly what I want to do, I mostly have no idea what I'm doing. :3

Before someone says this, I know full well that Nethack is NOT a very good first project to work on as a learn-by-doing coding experiment. I am painfully aware that the Nethack source code is the result of many years of jerry-rigged additions and modifications, that most of the code that is written is highly convoluted and make references to bits of code in a billion other places, and that the whole thing, even to an experienced programmer, is rather daunting. Be that as it may, however, this is what I've chosen to (hopefully) learn a thing or two from, and so I hope to get as much help with that as I can get. :D

So, that being said, what I'm looking for is someone who either knows a thing or two about the code and would be willing to put up with my insufferable n00bishness long enough to teach it to me, or a link to another forum/nethack community with someone who does. Any takers?

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 :Hacking NetHack is how I learnt C (and lex and yacc). Good luck! Your best bet might be joining a #NetHack IRC channel so you can talk about things in realtime. Also, there is an old, out-of-date document on how to change the NetHack code [http://members.shaw.ca/rob.ellwood/sources.txt here]. I wrote a short tutorial on [[User:Paxed/HowTo_AddNewRoomType|how to add a new special room]].  You also should take a look on how other people have coded patches; you can download most from the [[Patch Database]] --[[User:Paxed|paxed]] 06:15, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 :I don't think an IRC channel is an ideal place for code-related questions. Questions about one liners might work, but everything else is a bit hairy (especially in #nethack where you'd likely to drown in the messages and I don't know about another channel that could be called nethack-dev-related). I'd suggest posting to rec.games.roguelike.nethack (that has the added benefit that it gets archived for others to learn). --[[User:Bhaak|bhaak]] 10:55, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 :Of course you shouldn't paste dozens of lines; you use pastebin or similar, and just give the link to that. But you're right, RGRN would be better. --[[Special:Contributions/62.148.102.64|62.148.102.64]] 11:38, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

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	:I don't think an IRC channel is an ideal place for code-related questions. Questions about one liners might work, but everything else is a bit hairy (especially in #nethack where you'd likely to drown in the messages and I don't know about another channel that could be called nethack-dev-related). I'd suggest posting to rec.games.roguelike.nethack (that has the added benefit that it gets archived for others to learn). --[[User:Bhaak\|bhaak]] 10:55, 14 May 2009 (UTC)		:I don't think an IRC channel is an ideal place for code-related questions. Questions about one liners might work, but everything else is a bit hairy (especially in #nethack where you'd likely to drown in the messages and I don't know about another channel that could be called nethack-dev-related). I'd suggest posting to rec.games.roguelike.nethack (that has the added benefit that it gets archived for others to learn). --[[User:Bhaak\|bhaak]] 10:55, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
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		+	:Of course you shouldn't paste dozens of lines; you use pastebin or similar, and just give the link to that. But you're right, RGRN would be better. --[[Special:Contributions/62.148.102.64\|62.148.102.64]] 11:38, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

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	:Hacking NetHack is how I learnt C (and lex and yacc). Good luck! Your best bet might be joining a #NetHack IRC channel so you can talk about things in realtime. Also, there is an old, out-of-date document on how to change the NetHack code [http://members.shaw.ca/rob.ellwood/sources.txt here]. I wrote a short tutorial on [[User:Paxed/HowTo_AddNewRoomType\|how to add a new special room]]. You also should take a look on how other people have coded patches; you can download most from the [[Patch Database]] --[[User:Paxed\|paxed]] 06:15, 14 May 2009 (UTC)		:Hacking NetHack is how I learnt C (and lex and yacc). Good luck! Your best bet might be joining a #NetHack IRC channel so you can talk about things in realtime. Also, there is an old, out-of-date document on how to change the NetHack code [http://members.shaw.ca/rob.ellwood/sources.txt here]. I wrote a short tutorial on [[User:Paxed/HowTo_AddNewRoomType\|how to add a new special room]]. You also should take a look on how other people have coded patches; you can download most from the [[Patch Database]] --[[User:Paxed\|paxed]] 06:15, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
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		+	:I don't think an IRC channel is an ideal place for code-related questions. Questions about one liners might work, but everything else is a bit hairy (especially in #nethack where you'd likely to drown in the messages and I don't know about another channel that could be called nethack-dev-related). I'd suggest posting to rec.games.roguelike.nethack (that has the added benefit that it gets archived for others to learn). --[[User:Bhaak\|bhaak]] 10:55, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

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	So, that being said, what I'm looking for is someone who either knows a thing or two about the code and would be willing to put up with my insufferable n00bishness long enough to teach it to me, or a link to another forum/nethack community with someone who does. Any takers? [[User:OverWilliam\|OverWilliam]] 20:29, 13 May 2009 (UTC)		So, that being said, what I'm looking for is someone who either knows a thing or two about the code and would be willing to put up with my insufferable n00bishness long enough to teach it to me, or a link to another forum/nethack community with someone who does. Any takers? [[User:OverWilliam\|OverWilliam]] 20:29, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
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		+	:Hacking NetHack is how I learnt C (and lex and yacc). Good luck! Your best bet might be joining a #NetHack IRC channel so you can talk about things in realtime. Also, there is an old, out-of-date document on how to change the NetHack code [http://members.shaw.ca/rob.ellwood/sources.txt here]. I wrote a short tutorial on [[User:Paxed/HowTo_AddNewRoomType\|how to add a new special room]]. You also should take a look on how other people have coded patches; you can download most from the [[Patch Database]] --[[User:Paxed\|paxed]] 06:15, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

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	Before someone says this, I know full well that Nethack is NOT a very good first project to work on as a learn-by-doing coding experiment. I am painfully aware that the Nethack source code is the result of many years of jerry-rigged additions and modifications, that most of the code that is written is highly convoluted and make references to bits of code in a billion other places, and that the whole thing, even to an experienced programmer, is rather daunting. Be that as it may, however, this is what I've chosen to (hopefully) learn a thing or two from, and so I hope to get as much help with that as I can get. :D		Before someone says this, I know full well that Nethack is NOT a very good first project to work on as a learn-by-doing coding experiment. I am painfully aware that the Nethack source code is the result of many years of jerry-rigged additions and modifications, that most of the code that is written is highly convoluted and make references to bits of code in a billion other places, and that the whole thing, even to an experienced programmer, is rather daunting. Be that as it may, however, this is what I've chosen to (hopefully) learn a thing or two from, and so I hope to get as much help with that as I can get. :D

−	So, that being said, what I'm looking for is someone who either knows a thing or two about the code and would be willing to put up with my insufferable n00bishness long enough to teach it to me, or a link to another forum/nethack community with someone who does. Any takers? [[~~Special~~:~~Contributions/98.183.215.117~~\|~~98.183.215.117~~]] 20:25, 13 May 2009 (UTC)	+	So, that being said, what I'm looking for is someone who either knows a thing or two about the code and would be willing to put up with my insufferable n00bishness long enough to teach it to me, or a link to another forum/nethack community with someone who does. Any takers? [[User:OverWilliam\|OverWilliam]] 20:29, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

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	Before someone says this, I know full well that Nethack is NOT a very good first project to work on as a learn-by-doing coding experiment. I am painfully aware that the Nethack source code is the result of many years of jerry-rigged additions and modifications, that most of the code that is written is highly convoluted and make references to bits of code in a billion other places, and that the whole thing, even to an experienced programmer, is rather daunting. Be that as it may, however, this is what I've chosen to (hopefully) learn a thing or two from, and so I hope to get as much help with that as I can get. :D		Before someone says this, I know full well that Nethack is NOT a very good first project to work on as a learn-by-doing coding experiment. I am painfully aware that the Nethack source code is the result of many years of jerry-rigged additions and modifications, that most of the code that is written is highly convoluted and make references to bits of code in a billion other places, and that the whole thing, even to an experienced programmer, is rather daunting. Be that as it may, however, this is what I've chosen to (hopefully) learn a thing or two from, and so I hope to get as much help with that as I can get. :D

−	So, that being said, what I'm looking for is someone who either knows a thing or two about the code and would be willing to put up with my insufferable n00bishness long enough to teach it to me, or a link to another forum/nethack community with someone who does. Any takers?	+	So, that being said, what I'm looking for is someone who either knows a thing or two about the code and would be willing to put up with my insufferable n00bishness long enough to teach it to me, or a link to another forum/nethack community with someone who does. Any takers? [[Special:Contributions/98.183.215.117\|98.183.215.117]] 20:25, 13 May 2009 (UTC)