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		<title>Cathartes: reply</title>
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		<title>JohnRDelaney: Minetown massacre: how bad?</title>
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How bad did I screw up?&lt;br /&gt;
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My neutral Tourist threw a dagger at the Minetown watch captain. I thought it was a Green elf. That angered the captain and the entire watch. Now the watch captain and three watchmen are dead. I think the Tourist’s pet large cat killed one of the latter. The Tourist killed the others and was called a Murderer in one case. He may have to kill more if there are any.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the least, the Tourist lost intrinsic telepathy and 2 luck. I cannot figure out how much alignment was lost. Any guesses?&lt;br /&gt;
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