Forum:Interim fix for NetHack timeline template - Revision history

Lysdexia: & forgot to move entry up >:(

2026-07-11T06:41:20Z

& forgot to move entry up >:(

Lysdexia: forgot hair spaces

2026-07-11T06:21:03Z

forgot hair spaces

Lysdexia: new timeline preview

2026-07-11T06:03:34Z

new timeline preview

Lysdexia: fixed broken report and new replacement timeline

2026-06-29T07:22:25Z

fixed broken report and new replacement timeline

Ray Chason: Restore comment deleted probably by accident; image map added

2026-06-01T22:33:18Z

Restore comment deleted probably by accident; image map added

Paxed: inline SVGs

2026-06-01T14:43:16Z

inline SVGs

Darth l33t: reply

2026-06-01T13:05:58Z

Ray Chason: Requesting some help with linking from an SVG

2026-06-01T11:53:59Z

Requesting some help with linking from an SVG

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The timeline facility on NetHackWiki seems to be broken. Any change produces a link to a nonexistent image. I think the problem is deep in the bowels of MediaWiki, where only [[User:Paxed|Paxed]] and those close to him have access. I don't have such access.

I have added [[NetHack/nh-timeline.py]] to generate the file nh-timeline.svg, and included it from the [[Template:Timeline of NetHack|timeline template]]. This can provide the current versions, until the proper timeline facility is fixed.

The SVG contains links, but they're not directly accessible from [[Game history]]. Does anyone know how to make that happen?--[[User:Ray Chason|Ray Chason]] ([[User talk:Ray Chason|talk]]) 11:53, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

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 {|class="wikitable plainlinks" style=width:647px
 |+style="position:relative;left:center;top:60px;color:#7f7f7f"|NetHack<br>StreamTimeline
-|[[File:NHSTL preview 1.png|https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test/timeline/ezijjkuoahywagblperzzkq3tkfcimk.png]][[File:NHSTL preview 2.png|https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test/timeline/3z8y691m2o0e9uoyjmlk0yrkprbfh8h.png]][[File:NHSTL preview 3.png|https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test/timeline/56kvvh1p4514uo8uakbv053jxg30gbd.png]]
+|[[File:NHSTL preview 1.png|https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test/timeline/ezijjkuoahywagblperzzkq3tkfcimk.png]][[File:NHSTL preview 2.png|https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test/timeline/3z8y691m2o0e9uoyjmlk0yrkprbfh8h.png]][[File:NHSTL preview 3.png|https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test/timeline/nosjdua8yws3f831158zrd97z7rsmyc.png]]
 |-
 |style=font-size:6px|

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 {|class="wikitable plainlinks" style=width:647px
 |+style="position:relative;left:center;top:60px;color:#7f7f7f"|NetHack<br>StreamTimeline
-|[[File:NHSTL preview 1.png|https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test/timeline/ezijjkuoahywagblperzzkq3tkfcimk.png]][[File:NHSTL preview 2.png|https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test/timeline/3z8y691m2o0e9uoyjmlk0yrkprbfh8h.png]][[File:NHSTL preview 3.png|https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test/timeline/s72osar81zt9et3xo028plae4evt689.png]]
+|[[File:NHSTL preview 1.png|https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test/timeline/ezijjkuoahywagblperzzkq3tkfcimk.png]][[File:NHSTL preview 2.png|https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test/timeline/3z8y691m2o0e9uoyjmlk0yrkprbfh8h.png]][[File:NHSTL preview 3.png|https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test/timeline/56kvvh1p4514uo8uakbv053jxg30gbd.png]]
 |-
 |style=font-size:6px|

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	::The template now include an image map, to provide links.--[[User:Ray Chason\|Ray Chason]] ([[User talk:Ray Chason\|talk]]) 22:33, 1 June 2026 (UTC)		::The template now include an image map, to provide links.--[[User:Ray Chason\|Ray Chason]] ([[User talk:Ray Chason\|talk]]) 22:33, 1 June 2026 (UTC)
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		+	So I wasn’t done.. the leads I found for Rogue added another 3 kB. The app still doesn’t work here so I’m a’linking my preview from Test Wikipedia:
		+	{\|class="wikitable plainlinks" style=width:647px
		+	\|+style="position:relative;left:center;top:60px;color:#7f7f7f"\|NetHack<br>StreamTimeline
		+	\|[[File:NHSTL preview 1.png\|https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test/timeline/ezijjkuoahywagblperzzkq3tkfcimk.png]][[File:NHSTL preview 2.png\|https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test/timeline/3z8y691m2o0e9uoyjmlk0yrkprbfh8h.png]][[File:NHSTL preview 3.png\|https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test/timeline/s72osar81zt9et3xo028plae4evt689.png]]
		+	\|-
		+	\|style=font-size:6px\|
		+	[https://nethack.org/download/ nethack.org/download/]&emsp;[https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sources.games/search?q=NetHack groups.google.com/g/comp.sources.games.bugs/search?q=NetHack]&emsp;[https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sources.games.bugs/search?q=NetHack groups.google.com/g/comp.sources.games/search?q=NetHack]&emsp;[https://web.archive.org/www.juiblex.co.uk/nethack/source.html web.archive.org/www.juiblex.co.uk/nethack/source.html]<br>
		+	[https://groups.google.com/g/net.sources/search?q=Hack groups.google.com/g/net.sources/search?q=Hack]&emsp;[https://groups.google.com/g/net.sources.games/search?q=Hack groups.google.com/g/net.sources.games/search?q=Hack]&emsp;[https://web.archive.org/spod-central.org/~psmith/nh/anhftime.html web.archive.org/spod-central.org/~psmith/nh/anhftime.html] (www.google.com → groups.google.com)&emsp;[https://groups.google.com/g/net.games.rogue net.games.rogue]<br>
		+	[https://web.archive.org/rogue.rogueforge.net/rogue-3-4 web.archive.org/rogue.rogueforge.net/rogue-3-4]&emsp;[http://sedall.de sedall.de]&emsp;[https://groups.google.com/g/mod.computers.ibm-pc/search?q=Hack groups.google.com/g/mod.computers.ibm-pc/search?q=Hack]&emsp;[https://groups.google.com/g/net.games.hack/search?q=Kneller groups.google.com/g/net.games.hack/search?q=Kneller]&emsp;[https://www.google.com/search?q=HACK%23%23%23.ARC google.com/search?q=HACK###.ARC]<br>
		+	[https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/search?q=wi019%7Cfrom%3A%22Tom%20Proudfoot%22%7Cfrom%3A%22Stephen%20White%22%7Cfrom%3Aenhorn%7C%22Slash%20%26%203.2.2%22%7C%224.1.2-8%22%7Cfrom%3Amoot%7CUnNetHack groups.google.com/g/rec.games.roguelike.nethack/search?q=wi019\|from:"Tom+Proudfoot"\|from:"Stephen+White"\|from:enhorn\|"Slash+%26+3.2.2"\|"4.1.2-8"\|from:moot\|UnNetHack]&emsp;[https://web.archive.org/web/20060613060254/http://alt.org/nethack/ web.archive.org/web/20060613060254/alt.org/nethack]<br>
		+	[https://slashem.sourceforge.net/oldnews.html slashem.sourceforge.net/oldnews.html]&emsp;[https://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/slashem/slashem-source/0.0.8E0F1/se008e0f1.tar.gz downloads.sourceforge.net/project/slashem/slashem-source/0.0.8E0F1/se008e0f1.tar.gz]&emsp; [https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.hack/search?q=Kneller%7COren%7CHerborth%7C%22Stephen%20White%22 groups.google.com/g/rec.games.hack/search?q=Kneller\|Oren\|Herborth\|"Stephen White"]<br>
		+	[https://web.archive.org/skoardy.demon.co.uk/rlnews/1197.html#nov01 web.archive.org/skoardy.demon.co.uk/rlnews/1197.html#nov01]&emsp;[https://github.com/k21971/SporkHack github.com/k21971/SporkHack]&emsp;[https://github.com/copperwater/xNetHack github.com/copperwater/xNetHack]&emsp;[https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack github.com/k21971/EvilHack]&emsp;[https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/File:VariantHistoryGraph.jpg nethackwiki.com/wiki/File:VariantHistoryGraph.jpg]
		+	\|}
		+	[[User:Lysdexia\|Lysdexia]] ([[User talk:Lysdexia\|talk]]) 06:03, 11 July 2026 (UTC)

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 :The <nowiki><math></nowiki> template is broken too, see [[User:Darth_l33t/test]]. That also produces an image, so presumably it uses the same functionality as the timeline. --[[User:Darth l33t|Darth l33t]] ([[User talk:Darth l33t|talk]]) 13:05, 1 June 2026 (UTC)
+::There’s a page for that: [[special:MathStatus]].
 : This happens because the wiki converts the SVG into an image and shows that. The MW setting [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSVGNativeRendering $wgSVGNativeRendering] was introduced in 1.41.0, so dtype would have to update the wiki before we could use that. I didn't see any examples of modifying $wgSVGConverters and $wgSVGConverter to allow inline SVGs. --[[User:Paxed|paxed]] ([[User talk:Paxed|talk]]) 14:43, 1 June 2026 (UTC)
 ::The template now include an image map, to provide links.--[[User:Ray Chason|Ray Chason]] ([[User talk:Ray Chason|talk]]) 22:33, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

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	The SVG contains links, but they're not directly accessible from [[Game history]]. Does anyone know how to make that happen?--[[User:Ray Chason\|Ray Chason]] ([[User talk:Ray Chason\|talk]]) 11:53, 1 June 2026 (UTC)		The SVG contains links, but they're not directly accessible from [[Game history]]. Does anyone know how to make that happen?--[[User:Ray Chason\|Ray Chason]] ([[User talk:Ray Chason\|talk]]) 11:53, 1 June 2026 (UTC)
		+
		+	:The <nowiki><math></nowiki> template is broken too, see [[User:Darth_l33t/test]]. That also produces an image, so presumably it uses the same functionality as the timeline. --[[User:Darth l33t\|Darth l33t]] ([[User talk:Darth l33t\|talk]]) 13:05, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

	: This happens because the wiki converts the SVG into an image and shows that. The MW setting [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSVGNativeRendering $wgSVGNativeRendering] was introduced in 1.41.0, so dtype would have to update the wiki before we could use that. I didn't see any examples of modifying $wgSVGConverters and $wgSVGConverter to allow inline SVGs. --[[User:Paxed\|paxed]] ([[User talk:Paxed\|talk]]) 14:43, 1 June 2026 (UTC)		: This happens because the wiki converts the SVG into an image and shows that. The MW setting [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSVGNativeRendering $wgSVGNativeRendering] was introduced in 1.41.0, so dtype would have to update the wiki before we could use that. I didn't see any examples of modifying $wgSVGConverters and $wgSVGConverter to allow inline SVGs. --[[User:Paxed\|paxed]] ([[User talk:Paxed\|talk]]) 14:43, 1 June 2026 (UTC)
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		+	::The template now include an image map, to provide links.--[[User:Ray Chason\|Ray Chason]] ([[User talk:Ray Chason\|talk]]) 22:33, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

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	The SVG contains links, but they're not directly accessible from [[Game history]]. Does anyone know how to make that happen?--[[User:Ray Chason\|Ray Chason]] ([[User talk:Ray Chason\|talk]]) 11:53, 1 June 2026 (UTC)		The SVG contains links, but they're not directly accessible from [[Game history]]. Does anyone know how to make that happen?--[[User:Ray Chason\|Ray Chason]] ([[User talk:Ray Chason\|talk]]) 11:53, 1 June 2026 (UTC)
−	:The ~~<nowiki><math></nowiki> template is broken too, see [~~[~~User~~:~~Darth_l33t~~/~~test]~~]. ~~That also produces an image~~, so ~~presumably it uses~~ the ~~same functionality as the timeline~~. --[[User:~~Darth l33t~~\|~~Darth l33t~~]] ([[User talk:~~Darth l33t~~\|talk]]) 13:05, 1 June 2026 (UTC)	+
		+	: This happens because the wiki converts the SVG into an image and shows that. The MW setting [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSVGNativeRendering $wgSVGNativeRendering] was introduced in 1.41.0, so dtype would have to update the wiki before we could use that. I didn't see any examples of modifying $wgSVGConverters and $wgSVGConverter to allow inline SVGs. --[[User:Paxed\|paxed]] ([[User talk:Paxed\|talk]]) 14:43, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

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	The SVG contains links, but they're not directly accessible from [[Game history]]. Does anyone know how to make that happen?--[[User:Ray Chason\|Ray Chason]] ([[User talk:Ray Chason\|talk]]) 11:53, 1 June 2026 (UTC)		The SVG contains links, but they're not directly accessible from [[Game history]]. Does anyone know how to make that happen?--[[User:Ray Chason\|Ray Chason]] ([[User talk:Ray Chason\|talk]]) 11:53, 1 June 2026 (UTC)
		+	:The <nowiki><math></nowiki> template is broken too, see [[User:Darth_l33t/test]]. That also produces an image, so presumably it uses the same functionality as the timeline. --[[User:Darth l33t\|Darth l33t]] ([[User talk:Darth l33t\|talk]]) 13:05, 1 June 2026 (UTC)