Forum:Inventory Management - Revision history

User at 20:58, 10 January 2018

2018-01-10T20:58:58Z

User at 20:58, 10 January 2018

2018-01-10T20:58:13Z

Ryan Dorkoski at 20:35, 25 October 2017

2017-10-25T20:35:51Z

Crazyteeth at 20:12, 25 October 2017

2017-10-25T20:12:33Z

Ryan Dorkoski at 19:58, 25 October 2017

2017-10-25T19:58:18Z

Crazyteeth at 19:57, 25 October 2017

2017-10-25T19:57:45Z

Crazyteeth: spelling

2017-10-25T19:56:34Z

spelling

Crazyteeth: response

2017-10-25T19:52:28Z

response

Ryan Dorkoski at 15:43, 25 October 2017

2017-10-25T15:43:32Z

Crazyteeth at 15:31, 25 October 2017

2017-10-25T15:31:16Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 20:58, 10 January 2018
Line 64:		Line 64:
	---[[User:JMarieStanton\|Ms. J. Marie Stanton, Professional Valkyrie]] ([[User talk:JMarieStanton\|talk]]) 00:53, 21 October 2017 (UTC)		---[[User:JMarieStanton\|Ms. J. Marie Stanton, Professional Valkyrie]] ([[User talk:JMarieStanton\|talk]]) 00:53, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

−	: With a guaranteed unaligned (anyone can use it) altar in the Gnomish Mines, or a pet, there really is no need to try anything out "blindly." Always know before you try --- it makes the game much, much easier! I usually do not even quaff a potion unless it is blessed, even with the risk of permanent invisibility (the main issue with this is easily bypassed with a mummy wrapping. --[[User:User\|User]] ([[User talk:User\|talk]]) 20:57, 10 January 2018 (UTC)	+	: With a guaranteed unaligned (anyone can use it) altar in the Gnomish Mines, or a pet, there really is no need to try anything out "blindly." Always know before you try --- it makes the game much, much easier! I usually do not even quaff a potion unless it is blessed, even with the risk of permanent invisibility (the main issue with this is easily bypassed with a mummy wrapping). --[[User:User\|User]] ([[User talk:User\|talk]]) 20:57, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

← Older revision		Revision as of 20:58, 10 January 2018
Line 63:		Line 63:

	---[[User:JMarieStanton\|Ms. J. Marie Stanton, Professional Valkyrie]] ([[User talk:JMarieStanton\|talk]]) 00:53, 21 October 2017 (UTC)		---[[User:JMarieStanton\|Ms. J. Marie Stanton, Professional Valkyrie]] ([[User talk:JMarieStanton\|talk]]) 00:53, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
		+
		+	: With a guaranteed unaligned (anyone can use it) altar in the Gnomish Mines, or a pet, there really is no need to try anything out "blindly." Always know before you try --- it makes the game much, much easier! I usually do not even quaff a potion unless it is blessed, even with the risk of permanent invisibility (the main issue with this is easily bypassed with a mummy wrapping. --[[User:User\|User]] ([[User talk:User\|talk]]) 20:57, 10 January 2018 (UTC)


Line 116:		Line 118:

	--[[User:Ryan Dorkoski\|Ryan Dorkoski]] ([[User talk:Ryan Dorkoski\|talk]]) 20:35, 25 October 2017 (UTC)		--[[User:Ryan Dorkoski\|Ryan Dorkoski]] ([[User talk:Ryan Dorkoski\|talk]]) 20:35, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
		+
		+	I like putting a stash of items next to the downstairs of the level before I am currently on, if items make me burdened. Especially while exploring the Mines. It makes it so there is almost no way a monster can grab that wand of death you stashed. Sell what you can in Minetown (if OrcTown was not generated) and return your stash(es) to sell/Price ID the next batch. --[[User:User\|User]] ([[User talk:User\|talk]]) 20:57, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

← Older revision		Revision as of 20:35, 25 October 2017
Line 109:		Line 109:

	[[User:Crazyteeth\|Crazyteeth]] ([[User talk:Crazyteeth\|talk]]) 20:12, 25 October 2017 (UTC)		[[User:Crazyteeth\|Crazyteeth]] ([[User talk:Crazyteeth\|talk]]) 20:12, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
		+
		+
		+	Yeah you are right that it makes more sense in that context. It's a deeper rule; a rule set on top of another rule. The problem with NetHack is how they throw it at you right out of the starting gate.
		+
		+	Thanks again,
		+
		+	--[[User:Ryan Dorkoski\|Ryan Dorkoski]] ([[User talk:Ryan Dorkoski\|talk]]) 20:35, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

← Older revision		Revision as of 20:12, 25 October 2017
Line 97:		Line 97:
	Anyways, thank you so very much for breaking that down for me. I pretty much get it now.		Anyways, thank you so very much for breaking that down for me. I pretty much get it now.
	--[[User:Ryan Dorkoski\|Ryan Dorkoski]] ([[User talk:Ryan Dorkoski\|talk]]) 19:58, 25 October 2017 (UTC)		--[[User:Ryan Dorkoski\|Ryan Dorkoski]] ([[User talk:Ryan Dorkoski\|talk]]) 19:58, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
		+
		+
		+	I agree. Blame Gary Gygax! :P
		+	I can't tell you how many times I or a friend would hit 18 with a warrior or knight and just start drooling at the percentile dice we were about to roll, hoping for that elusive /00. All that buildup, then comes the roll!.... and it usually ended up being something like /03. Keep the tissues at-hand.
		+
		+	In retrospect, as I write this, I think it makes more sense when you look at it from a new D&D player's perspective. You aren't aware of all the stats, and that giants have up to 25 STR and that gods and monsters can have inflated stats and all that. You just want to have a good time rolling your character and that dude called the DM over there said your stats can range from 3 to 18. So when you get all excited for hitting the cap 18 STR on your warrior and then the DM says, nice now roll percentile dice, it just becomes "how it works". All you know is that your 18/23 STR is better than the rogue's 18 STR. (Suck it rogue!)
		+
		+	And then not long after, you get spoiled and know the stats of every monster and how every magic item works and what bonuses they give, and the 18/** scale never comes into conflict with the up-to-25 scale because that's how you first learned - what's better than 18.
		+
		+	--Crazyteeth the NymphWedgieGiver
		+
		+	[[User:Crazyteeth\|Crazyteeth]] ([[User talk:Crazyteeth\|talk]]) 20:12, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

@@ Line 73: / Line 73: @@
   Tips: A wand or spell of Locking is great because you can seal up your room and leave it unreachable to most monsters. You can inscribe Elbereth, or use a scroll of scare monster under your containers to keep monsters off of them. I also drop a cursed junk item on the same space as my containers to keep my pets from stepping on them, because if they're strong enough they will pick it up and relocate it for you.
   --Crazyteeth the Everdying
@@ Line 86: / Line 85: @@
 The new stat is treated, on a list, just as you would treat any other incremental advancement of a stat: don't get hung up on the /**. You just treat the next set of /** ranges as you would a regular increase of numbers in a chart. so your bonuses grow with each new step up the /** chart.
-Also, the stat blocks are the same until you hit the next block. meaning 18/01 is the same as 18/50 and everything in between. The next magical number you would want to hit would be 18/51 for the next increase in bonuses.
+Also, the stat blocks are the same until you hit the next block. meaning 18/01 is the same at 18/50 and everything in between. The next magical number you would want to hit would be 18/51 for the next increase in bonuses.
 Man I hope this helps, after proof-reading this, now I'm confused!
---Crazyteeth the Illithid-Licker
+[[User:Crazyteeth|Crazyteeth]] ([[User talk:Crazyteeth|talk]]) 19:52, 25 October 2017 (UTC)Crazyteeth the Illithid-Licker
-[[User:Crazyteeth|Crazyteeth]] ([[User talk:Crazyteeth|talk]]) 19:52, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

← Older revision		Revision as of 19:52, 25 October 2017
Line 77:		Line 77:
	Thanks Crazyteeth, that is helpful. I still don't understand the actual STR stat, though. I have read the Wiki like 100 times and I can't make heads or tails of it. So, STR 18/01 means 18 and 1% towards 19? I can't even begin to explain what I think it is because I have no idea. I know STR caps at 25, but I never get numbers between 18 and 24.		Thanks Crazyteeth, that is helpful. I still don't understand the actual STR stat, though. I have read the Wiki like 100 times and I can't make heads or tails of it. So, STR 18/01 means 18 and 1% towards 19? I can't even begin to explain what I think it is because I have no idea. I know STR caps at 25, but I never get numbers between 18 and 24.
	--[[User:Ryan Dorkoski\|Ryan Dorkoski]] ([[User talk:Ryan Dorkoski\|talk]]) 15:43, 25 October 2017 (UTC)Ryan Dorkoski		--[[User:Ryan Dorkoski\|Ryan Dorkoski]] ([[User talk:Ryan Dorkoski\|talk]]) 15:43, 25 October 2017 (UTC)Ryan Dorkoski
		+
		+
		+	This game is HEAVILY influenced from the D&D rules at the time (2.0?). The STR system comes directly from D&D. In D&D a stat jump from 18 to 19 is huge and normally 19+ stats were reserved for non-player monsters or characters. It was possible for PCs (player characters) to obtain 19 in a couple of stats depending on their race and initial stat roll, but this was somewhat rare, and no baseline rules included a possibility to obtain a 19+ STR (originally). So I think this was a way to reward a STR-based character that rolled a natural 18 for STR by allowing him to roll again with percentile dice and get his new adjusted STR of 18/**. Which would be a higher number and give better bonuses as such, but would not reach the level of 19 (demi-god stats), even at 18/00. It is not a percentage of advancement towards 19, just an added bonus that improves based on a scale of 1-100.
		+
		+	For instance a Wizard that rolled a STR of 18 could never get 18/01 or higher at creation because he is not a STR-based class, but later in the game if he were to get a STR increase, it wouldn't even touch the /** scale, he would jump right into 19 from 18 (IE super stick of STR +1)
		+
		+	The new stat is treated, on a list, just as you would treat any other incremental advancement of a stat: don't get hung up on the /. You just treat the next set of / ranges as you would a regular increase of numbers in a chart. so your bonuses grow with each new step up the /** chart.
		+
		+	Also, the stat blocks are the same until you hit the next block. meaning 18/01 is the same at 18/50 and everything in between. The next magical number you would want to hit would be 18/51 for the next increase in bonuses.
		+
		+	Man I hope this helps, after proof-reading this, now I'm confused!
		+	[[User:Crazyteeth\|Crazyteeth]] ([[User talk:Crazyteeth\|talk]]) 19:52, 25 October 2017 (UTC)Crazyteeth the Illithid-Licker

← Older revision		Revision as of 15:43, 25 October 2017
Line 73:		Line 73:
	Tips: A wand or spell of Locking is great because you can seal up your room and leave it unreachable to most monsters. You can inscribe Elbereth, or use a scroll of scare monster under your containers to keep monsters off of them. I also drop a cursed junk item on the same space as my containers to keep my pets from stepping on them, because if they're strong enough they will pick it up and relocate it for you.		Tips: A wand or spell of Locking is great because you can seal up your room and leave it unreachable to most monsters. You can inscribe Elbereth, or use a scroll of scare monster under your containers to keep monsters off of them. I also drop a cursed junk item on the same space as my containers to keep my pets from stepping on them, because if they're strong enough they will pick it up and relocate it for you.
	--Crazyteeth the Everdying		--Crazyteeth the Everdying
		+
		+
		+	Thanks Crazyteeth, that is helpful. I still don't understand the actual STR stat, though. I have read the Wiki like 100 times and I can't make heads or tails of it. So, STR 18/01 means 18 and 1% towards 19? I can't even begin to explain what I think it is because I have no idea. I know STR caps at 25, but I never get numbers between 18 and 24.
		+	--[[User:Ryan Dorkoski\|Ryan Dorkoski]] ([[User talk:Ryan Dorkoski\|talk]]) 15:43, 25 October 2017 (UTC)Ryan Dorkoski

← Older revision		Revision as of 15:31, 25 October 2017
Line 68:		Line 68:

	Absolutely! --[[User:JMarieStanton\|Ms. J. Marie Stanton, Professional Valkyrie]] ([[User talk:JMarieStanton\|talk]]) 16:14, 23 October 2017 (UTC)		Absolutely! --[[User:JMarieStanton\|Ms. J. Marie Stanton, Professional Valkyrie]] ([[User talk:JMarieStanton\|talk]]) 16:14, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
		+
		+	Hi, I was hoping I could shed some light on your STR stat. You said they were "25 (current, base: 14, max: 18/01)" I'm pretty sure that means that you are wearing Gauntlets of Strength, and therefore have a current value of 25. Without the Gauntlets your STR would be your base (14) and if you took off your Gauntlets and tried to naturally raise STR as high as you could, you would only be able to achieve 18/01.
		+	As for your inventory woes, my strategy is to set up a "stash" - one or two containers in a safe location. Different players have different requirements for their stash locations. Some like it on the Sokoban levels where boulders are abundant and where teleporting is not allowed. I like to set it up on a higher level, usually near the downstairs somewhere near levels 3 or 4 so that it is easy to reach from OrcTown and Sokoban while setting up the early game.
		+	Tips: A wand or spell of Locking is great because you can seal up your room and leave it unreachable to most monsters. You can inscribe Elbereth, or use a scroll of scare monster under your containers to keep monsters off of them. I also drop a cursed junk item on the same space as my containers to keep my pets from stepping on them, because if they're strong enough they will pick it up and relocate it for you.
		+	--Crazyteeth the Everdying