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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I sometimes play pacifists as I like the challenge and not actively killing anything in terms of role-playing. However, several of them have a hard time finding a whistle before the castle, whereas all of my regular characters typically find 4 or 5 before the castle. I cannot help but be paranoid and think their is RNG programming against my Conduct.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I sometimes play pacifists as I like the challenge and not actively killing anything in terms of role-playing. However, several of them have a hard time finding a whistle before the castle, whereas all of my regular characters typically find 4 or 5 before the castle. I cannot help but be paranoid and think their is RNG programming against my Conduct.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;--[[User:User|User]] ([[User talk:User|talk]]) 07:07, 12 December 2017 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;--[[User:User|User]] ([[User talk:User|talk]]) 07:07, 12 December 2017 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: The [[Polypiling]] article says magical [[tools]] have a 40% chance of producing a magical tool, whereas if you start with an unmagical tool you only have a 0.3% chance. So polypile-wise 1 figurine of a gray ooze is worth more than 133 expensive cameras, but if that's all you have... [[User:Luna|Luna]] ([[User talk:Luna|talk]]) 14:51, 12 December 2017 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>User: Created page with &quot;{{Forumheader|Watercooler}}  &lt;!-- Please put your content under this line.  Be sure to sign your edits with four tildes ~~~~ --&gt;   I sometimes play pacifists as I like the cha...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;{{Forumheader|Watercooler}}  &amp;lt;!-- Please put your content under this line.  Be sure to sign your edits with four tildes ~~~~ --&amp;gt;   I sometimes play pacifists as I like the cha...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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I sometimes play pacifists as I like the challenge and not actively killing anything in terms of role-playing. However, several of them have a hard time finding a whistle before the castle, whereas all of my regular characters typically find 4 or 5 before the castle. I cannot help but be paranoid and think their is RNG programming against my Conduct. &lt;br /&gt;
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Does a tool have to be magical to get a magic whistle via polypile? I have zapped 100's of items at this point, via a wand, and have yet to receive any. I have yet to encounter many unicorns due to my low level. I always use stacks of six in rows of 7.&lt;br /&gt;
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The guidebook states: &amp;quot;As magic whistles are fairly common magical tools, it is a good idea to collect them. You can then try to polypile your surplus ones into magic markers.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:User|User]] ([[User talk:User|talk]]) 07:07, 12 December 2017 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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