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		<title>Ion frigate at 19:55, 6 December 2011</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I can't fanthom. Can you reproduce this reliably in wizard mode? --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 14:25, 6 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I can't fanthom. Can you reproduce this reliably in wizard mode? --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 14:25, 6 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:Did you use the turn counter to see how long you were actually gone?  3000 turns is longer than you think - a &amp;quot;typical&amp;quot; ascension is somewhere in the ballpark of 50000 or so, and that's generally with a lot of tedious and turn-intensive Gehennom wandering.  Exploring your average level takes on the order of 2-300 turns - an 80x25 level, traversed about three or four times.  The Mines are generally even quicker, given their open layout.  People can often find levelported inediate pets before they go feral, and that's a 750-turn time limit. -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 19:53, 6 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:Did you use the turn counter to see how long you were actually gone?  3000 turns is longer than you think - a &amp;quot;typical&amp;quot; ascension is somewhere in the ballpark of 50000 or so, and that's generally with a lot of tedious and turn-intensive Gehennom wandering.  Exploring your average level takes on the order of 2-300 turns - an 80x25 level, traversed about three or four times.  The Mines are generally even quicker, given their open layout&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;.  And these times are even less if you have intrinsic or extrinsic speed&lt;/ins&gt;.  People can often find levelported inediate pets before they go feral, and that's a 750-turn time limit. -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 19:53, 6 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Ion frigate at 19:53, 6 December 2011</title>
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		<updated>2011-12-06T19:53:10Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:Did you use the turn counter to see how long you were actually gone?  3000 turns is longer than you think - a &amp;quot;typical&amp;quot; ascension is somewhere in the ballpark of 50000 or so, and that's generally with a lot of tedious and turn-intensive Gehennom wandering.  Exploring your average level takes on the order of 2-300 turns - an 80x25 level, traversed about three or four times.  The Mines are generally even quicker, given their open layout.  People can often find levelported inediate pets before they go feral, and that's a 750-turn time limit. -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 19:53, 6 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Tjr: wizmode?</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;wizmode?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>66.93.240.163: Created page with &quot;{{Forumheader|Watercooler}}  &lt;!-- Please put your content under this line.  Be sure to sign your edits with four tildes ~~~~ --&gt;  In my last game I had a number of carnivore pets...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2011-12-06T02:40:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;{{Forumheader|Watercooler}}  &amp;lt;!-- Please put your content under this line.  Be sure to sign your edits with four tildes ~~~~ --&amp;gt;  In my last game I had a number of carnivore pets...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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In my last game I had a number of carnivore pets (4-5) which I eventually abandoned. The surprising part is that even after thousand and thousand of turns spent on different floors, they were still all tame when I returned to them! &lt;br /&gt;
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It seems from the page on tameness that pets at max tameness (20) can at most remain tame for 75 + 19 * 150 = 2925 turns. Yet, I remained separated from my pets for easily ten times as long, and they still remained tame. They didn't die of starvation either.&lt;br /&gt;
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How can this be explained?&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[Special:Contributions/66.93.240.163|66.93.240.163]] 02:40, 6 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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