Forum:Role Difficulty in 3.7.0 - Revision history

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Hi! Now that 3.7.0 has significantly nerfed Valkyries (no longer starting with a long sword, Excalibur is much harder to get, etc.), I'm wondering whether dwarven valk can still be considered the "strongest" role, especially for beginners?

Arguments for:
- Snickersnee was buffed significantly with a polearm-like attack that gets a free turn.
- Meanwhile Mjollnir is pretty nice in terms of damage, but the noise and the inventory damage are significant problems.
- Wizards now have a guaranteed starting magic marker! Spellcasting changes also may work in their favor, e.g., with the addition of chain lightning. The unihorn nerf also works as a spellcaster buff.

Arguments against:
- Mjollnir is still capable of being an ascension-level artifact. And the Orb of Weight is still extremely good, plus its crystal ball function was buffed which may save on mapping/gold detection.
- Meanwhile Murasama and Ahriman are crap.
- Since poison is no longer an instadeath, the opinion that barbarians may be better for beginners is weaker.

I think there are many many more potential aspects. Does anyone have plans to write up a role difficulty 3.7.0 page? Perhaps also discuss here?

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 Hi! Now that 3.7.0 has significantly nerfed Valkyries (no longer starting with a long sword, Excalibur is much harder to get, etc.), I'm wondering whether dwarven valk can still be considered the "strongest" role, especially for beginners?
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+Arguments against:
 - Snickersnee was buffed significantly with a polearm-like attack that gets a free turn.
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 - Wizards now have a guaranteed starting magic marker! Spellcasting changes also may work in their favor, e.g., with the addition of chain lightning. The unihorn nerf also works as a spellcaster buff.
-Arguments against:
+Arguments for:
 - Mjollnir is still capable of being an ascension-level artifact. And the Orb of Weight is still extremely good, plus its crystal ball function was buffed which may save on mapping/gold detection.

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 Arguments for:
 - Snickersnee was buffed significantly with a polearm-like attack that gets a free turn.
 - Meanwhile Mjollnir is pretty nice in terms of damage, but the noise and the inventory damage are significant problems.
 - Wizards now have a guaranteed starting magic marker! Spellcasting changes also may work in their favor, e.g., with the addition of chain lightning. The unihorn nerf also works as a spellcaster buff.
 Arguments against:
 - Mjollnir is still capable of being an ascension-level artifact. And the Orb of Weight is still extremely good, plus its crystal ball function was buffed which may save on mapping/gold detection.
 - Meanwhile Murasama and Ahriman are crap.
 - Since poison is no longer an instadeath, the opinion that barbarians may be better for beginners is weaker.
 I think there are many many more potential aspects. Does anyone have plans to write up a role difficulty 3.7.0 page? Perhaps also discuss here?
 [[User:Loresend|Loresend]] ([[User talk:Loresend|talk]]) 06:49, 31 December 2025 (UTC)