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		<title>Kufat: #untrap</title>
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		<title>Cssdixieland: Requesting solutions to the problem of a pet or tamed monster falling into a trap in Nethack 5.</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Requesting solutions to the problem of a pet or tamed monster falling into a trap in Nethack 5.&lt;/p&gt;
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Nethack version 5 made public in 2026 by the Dev Team has at least one difference from Nethack version 3.6.7 of 2023, and from all previous versions such as 3.4.3, which seems frustrating.&lt;br /&gt;
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According to several document sources consulted, a pet or a tamed monster fallen into a trap CANNOT BE LIBERATED by moving the Hero into it, this is, by the old method of displacing it out of the trap.&lt;br /&gt;
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Then, how can the trapped Friend be liberated ? Is there a tool such as a ladder (if ladders exist) or another resource that could be used ? Or waiting for a number of turns, as it may happen to the trapped Hero ?&lt;br /&gt;
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So far, documentation and Nethack fora consulted mention the problem but not the solution. This is important, because there is a military virtue called LOYALTY. The perspective of abandoning a Comrade still alive into the hands of the enemy, or to a slow death, is simply UNACCEPTABLE.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Comrade-at-Arms IS NOT A TOOL, but a Companion of War who deserves sacrifice and for whom it is justified to kill or to die.&lt;br /&gt;
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If not finding a solution to the problem, then it is better to avoid Nethack version 5 entirely and to continue playing the old versions, which for years have provided a UNIQUE enjoyment.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is also the possibility of starting without pet and not offering edible food to a cat, dog or horse, but that solution would take away one of the most lovable aspects of Nethack, that of having a Companion.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks to Nethack players who may offer possible solutions, and receive a Confederate Salute.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Cssdixieland|Cssdixieland]] ([[User talk:Cssdixieland|talk]]) 20:35, 16 August 2026 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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