Forum:Wikihack and fan-fiction - Revision history

2.96.111.96: /* Google */

2015-04-03T16:14:26Z

‎Google

Tjr: /* Introduction text */

2014-02-15T07:13:39Z

‎Introduction text

Tjr: /* Introduction text */

2014-02-15T07:12:44Z

‎Introduction text

Scorchgeek: forgot signature (here you go bcode)

2014-02-15T00:36:33Z

forgot signature (here you go bcode)

Scorchgeek at 22:44, 14 February 2014

2014-02-14T22:44:15Z

Ais523: /* Nethack wiki replacing WikiHack? */ we've changed the inbound links

2014-01-27T08:18:02Z

‎Nethack wiki replacing WikiHack?: we've changed the inbound links

Tjr: it's SEO all right

2014-01-23T18:05:09Z

it's SEO all right

WaveDivisionMultiplexer: typo

2014-01-23T14:43:23Z

typo

WaveDivisionMultiplexer at 14:30, 23 January 2014

2014-01-23T14:30:34Z

194.116.198.185: hmm

2014-01-23T13:21:57Z

hmm

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	: Maybe, if you can word it in some positive way rather than "the other one is shit".		: Maybe, if you can word it in some positive way rather than "the other one is shit".
	: Good thinking, trying to attack the problem from this angle! --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 07:13, 15 February 2014 (UTC)		: Good thinking, trying to attack the problem from this angle! --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 07:13, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
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		+	=== Google ===
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		+	I notice Google tends to give me the Wikihack page unless I specifically specify nethackwiki (one word) as a keyword. I also notice that it never gives me both for the same page, presumably due to automatic alternate url / mirror removal. Is there anything that can be done about this? -- [[Special:Contributions/2.96.111.96\|2.96.111.96]] 16:14, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

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	Might we consider changing the beginning of the intro text (the part starting with "NetHackWiki is a free community web site for the game NetHack that anyone can edit") to mention that the Wikia version is junk? The first sentence and a half shows up on the Google results page, so we might be able to catch people who are scanning the page if the two wikis come pretty close together. [[User:Scorchgeek\|Scorchgeek]] ([[User talk:Scorchgeek\|talk]]) 00:36, 15 February 2014 (UTC)		Might we consider changing the beginning of the intro text (the part starting with "NetHackWiki is a free community web site for the game NetHack that anyone can edit") to mention that the Wikia version is junk? The first sentence and a half shows up on the Google results page, so we might be able to catch people who are scanning the page if the two wikis come pretty close together. [[User:Scorchgeek\|Scorchgeek]] ([[User talk:Scorchgeek\|talk]]) 00:36, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

−	: Maybe, if you can word it in some positive way rather than "the other one is shit". --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 07:12, 15 February 2014 (UTC)	+	: Maybe, if you can word it in some positive way rather than "the other one is shit".
		+	: Good thinking, trying to attack the problem from this angle! --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 07:13, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

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	=== Introduction text ===		=== Introduction text ===
	Might we consider changing the beginning of the intro text (the part starting with "NetHackWiki is a free community web site for the game NetHack that anyone can edit") to mention that the Wikia version is junk? The first sentence and a half shows up on the Google results page, so we might be able to catch people who are scanning the page if the two wikis come pretty close together. [[User:Scorchgeek\|Scorchgeek]] ([[User talk:Scorchgeek\|talk]]) 00:36, 15 February 2014 (UTC)		Might we consider changing the beginning of the intro text (the part starting with "NetHackWiki is a free community web site for the game NetHack that anyone can edit") to mention that the Wikia version is junk? The first sentence and a half shows up on the Google results page, so we might be able to catch people who are scanning the page if the two wikis come pretty close together. [[User:Scorchgeek\|Scorchgeek]] ([[User talk:Scorchgeek\|talk]]) 00:36, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
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		+	: Maybe, if you can word it in some positive way rather than "the other one is shit". --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 07:12, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

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	=== Introduction text ===		=== Introduction text ===
−	Might we consider changing the beginning of the intro text (the part starting with "NetHackWiki is a free community web site for the game NetHack that anyone can edit") to mention that the Wikia version is junk? The first sentence and a half shows up on the Google results page, so we might be able to catch people who are scanning the page if the two wikis come pretty close together.	+	Might we consider changing the beginning of the intro text (the part starting with "NetHackWiki is a free community web site for the game NetHack that anyone can edit") to mention that the Wikia version is junk? The first sentence and a half shows up on the Google results page, so we might be able to catch people who are scanning the page if the two wikis come pretty close together. [[User:Scorchgeek\|Scorchgeek]] ([[User talk:Scorchgeek\|talk]]) 00:36, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

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	: The wiki is being used for fanfiction because 1) wikia wont delete it and it doesn't seem like a good plan to 'slowly shut it down' as young, misled specimen will always find it and edit. 2) we have two sites, why not make use of them? 3) fanfics go on wikihack to separate the content that is 'spoilers' from content that is 'fiction'. 4) the discussion is on this wiki to make people aware of the change, and to make a point that I'm not 'reviving' the website or anything, but simply making use of it. 5) there is no 5. --<span style="border: Double 5px Black; background: #960B73; -moz-border-radius: 10em 15em 10em 15em; -webkit-border-radius: 10em 15em 10em 15em; border-radius: 10em 15em 10em 15em;">[[User:WaveDivisionMultiplexer\|<span style="color: #FCEC00; font: Palatino;">Detonator Coil, suitable for a small nuclear device</span>]] [[User talk:WaveDivisionMultiplexer\|<span style="color: Black; font: Palatino;">(Leave a message here)</span>]]</span> 14:30, 23 January 2014 (UTC)		: The wiki is being used for fanfiction because 1) wikia wont delete it and it doesn't seem like a good plan to 'slowly shut it down' as young, misled specimen will always find it and edit. 2) we have two sites, why not make use of them? 3) fanfics go on wikihack to separate the content that is 'spoilers' from content that is 'fiction'. 4) the discussion is on this wiki to make people aware of the change, and to make a point that I'm not 'reviving' the website or anything, but simply making use of it. 5) there is no 5. --<span style="border: Double 5px Black; background: #960B73; -moz-border-radius: 10em 15em 10em 15em; -webkit-border-radius: 10em 15em 10em 15em; border-radius: 10em 15em 10em 15em;">[[User:WaveDivisionMultiplexer\|<span style="color: #FCEC00; font: Palatino;">Detonator Coil, suitable for a small nuclear device</span>]] [[User talk:WaveDivisionMultiplexer\|<span style="color: Black; font: Palatino;">(Leave a message here)</span>]]</span> 14:30, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
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		+	=== Introduction text ===
		+	Might we consider changing the beginning of the intro text (the part starting with "NetHackWiki is a free community web site for the game NetHack that anyone can edit") to mention that the Wikia version is junk? The first sentence and a half shows up on the Google results page, so we might be able to catch people who are scanning the page if the two wikis come pretty close together.

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 :::i think the idea was to find a way of slowly shutting it down without alerting the authorities. wikia makes money off page visits, so a popular site like wikihack would be something they wouldn't want to shut down. distasteful thought the subject is, this seems to be an SEO problem. perhaps rather than changing the site a project could be started to contact all the people who link to that site to link to this one instead. i wonder if google et al. rate internal wikia links more or less highly? that's one big link farm either way. --[[Special:Contributions/194.116.198.185|194.116.198.185]] 13:21, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 ::::It is indeed an SEO problem, but it's not fixable. The odds are stacked against us. I've tried extensively, using almost every technique you can find on SEOmoz, short of hiring people or building spam sites (as Wikia do). --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr|talk]]) 18:05, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 : The wiki is being used for fanfiction because 1) wikia wont delete it and it doesn't seem like a good plan to 'slowly shut it down' as young, misled specimen will always find it and edit. 2) we have two sites, why not make use of them? 3) fanfics go on wikihack to separate the content that is 'spoilers' from content that is 'fiction'. 4) the discussion is on this wiki to make people aware of the change, and to make a point that I'm not 'reviving' the website or anything, but simply making use of it. 5) there is no 5. --<span style="border: Double 5px Black; background: #960B73; -moz-border-radius: 10em 15em 10em 15em; -webkit-border-radius: 10em 15em 10em 15em; border-radius: 10em 15em 10em 15em;">[[User:WaveDivisionMultiplexer|<span style="color: #FCEC00; font: Palatino;">Detonator Coil, suitable for a small nuclear device</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:WaveDivisionMultiplexer|<span style="color: Black; font: Palatino;">(Leave a message here)</span>]]</span> 14:30, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

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	:::i think the idea was to find a way of slowly shutting it down without alerting the authorities. wikia makes money off page visits, so a popular site like wikihack would be something they wouldn't want to shut down. distasteful thought the subject is, this seems to be an SEO problem. perhaps rather than changing the site a project could be started to contact all the people who link to that site to link to this one instead. i wonder if google et al. rate internal wikia links more or less highly? that's one big link farm either way. --[[Special:Contributions/194.116.198.185\|194.116.198.185]] 13:21, 23 January 2014 (UTC)		:::i think the idea was to find a way of slowly shutting it down without alerting the authorities. wikia makes money off page visits, so a popular site like wikihack would be something they wouldn't want to shut down. distasteful thought the subject is, this seems to be an SEO problem. perhaps rather than changing the site a project could be started to contact all the people who link to that site to link to this one instead. i wonder if google et al. rate internal wikia links more or less highly? that's one big link farm either way. --[[Special:Contributions/194.116.198.185\|194.116.198.185]] 13:21, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

−	: The wiki is being used for fanfiction because 1) wikia wont ~~d3lete~~ it and it doesn't seem like a good plan to 'slowly shut it down' as young, misled specimen will always find it and edit. 2) we have two sites, why not make use of them? 3) fanfics go on wikihack to separate the content that is 'spoilers' from content that is 'fiction'. 4) the discussion is on this wiki to make people aware of the change, and to make a point that I'm not 'reviving' the website or anything, but simply making use of it. 5) there is no 5. --<span style="border: Double 5px Black; background: #960B73; -moz-border-radius: 10em 15em 10em 15em; -webkit-border-radius: 10em 15em 10em 15em; border-radius: 10em 15em 10em 15em;">[[User:WaveDivisionMultiplexer\|<span style="color: #FCEC00; font: Palatino;">Detonator Coil, suitable for a small nuclear device</span>]] [[User talk:WaveDivisionMultiplexer\|<span style="color: Black; font: Palatino;">(Leave a message here)</span>]]</span> 14:30, 23 January 2014 (UTC)	+	: The wiki is being used for fanfiction because 1) wikia wont delete it and it doesn't seem like a good plan to 'slowly shut it down' as young, misled specimen will always find it and edit. 2) we have two sites, why not make use of them? 3) fanfics go on wikihack to separate the content that is 'spoilers' from content that is 'fiction'. 4) the discussion is on this wiki to make people aware of the change, and to make a point that I'm not 'reviving' the website or anything, but simply making use of it. 5) there is no 5. --<span style="border: Double 5px Black; background: #960B73; -moz-border-radius: 10em 15em 10em 15em; -webkit-border-radius: 10em 15em 10em 15em; border-radius: 10em 15em 10em 15em;">[[User:WaveDivisionMultiplexer\|<span style="color: #FCEC00; font: Palatino;">Detonator Coil, suitable for a small nuclear device</span>]] [[User talk:WaveDivisionMultiplexer\|<span style="color: Black; font: Palatino;">(Leave a message here)</span>]]</span> 14:30, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

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	::Why are you discussing wikihack policy and procedure here? The two aren't related in any way, and their community, if they still have one, is there, not here. Personally, I can't see using that awful site for anything at all, including fan fiction. Why would I want to put new content there at all? [[User:Wooble\|Wooble]] ([[User talk:Wooble\|talk]]) 12:10, 23 January 2014 (UTC)		::Why are you discussing wikihack policy and procedure here? The two aren't related in any way, and their community, if they still have one, is there, not here. Personally, I can't see using that awful site for anything at all, including fan fiction. Why would I want to put new content there at all? [[User:Wooble\|Wooble]] ([[User talk:Wooble\|talk]]) 12:10, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
	:::i think the idea was to find a way of slowly shutting it down without alerting the authorities. wikia makes money off page visits, so a popular site like wikihack would be something they wouldn't want to shut down. distasteful thought the subject is, this seems to be an SEO problem. perhaps rather than changing the site a project could be started to contact all the people who link to that site to link to this one instead. i wonder if google et al. rate internal wikia links more or less highly? that's one big link farm either way. --[[Special:Contributions/194.116.198.185\|194.116.198.185]] 13:21, 23 January 2014 (UTC)		:::i think the idea was to find a way of slowly shutting it down without alerting the authorities. wikia makes money off page visits, so a popular site like wikihack would be something they wouldn't want to shut down. distasteful thought the subject is, this seems to be an SEO problem. perhaps rather than changing the site a project could be started to contact all the people who link to that site to link to this one instead. i wonder if google et al. rate internal wikia links more or less highly? that's one big link farm either way. --[[Special:Contributions/194.116.198.185\|194.116.198.185]] 13:21, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
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		+	: The wiki is being used for fanfiction because 1) wikia wont d3lete it and it doesn't seem like a good plan to 'slowly shut it down' as young, misled specimen will always find it and edit. 2) we have two sites, why not make use of them? 3) fanfics go on wikihack to separate the content that is 'spoilers' from content that is 'fiction'. 4) the discussion is on this wiki to make people aware of the change, and to make a point that I'm not 'reviving' the website or anything, but simply making use of it. 5) there is no 5. --<span style="border: Double 5px Black; background: #960B73; -moz-border-radius: 10em 15em 10em 15em; -webkit-border-radius: 10em 15em 10em 15em; border-radius: 10em 15em 10em 15em;">[[User:WaveDivisionMultiplexer\|<span style="color: #FCEC00; font: Palatino;">Detonator Coil, suitable for a small nuclear device</span>]] [[User talk:WaveDivisionMultiplexer\|<span style="color: Black; font: Palatino;">(Leave a message here)</span>]]</span> 14:30, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

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	::Why are you discussing wikihack policy and procedure here? The two aren't related in any way, and their community, if they still have one, is there, not here. Personally, I can't see using that awful site for anything at all, including fan fiction. Why would I want to put new content there at all? [[User:Wooble\|Wooble]] ([[User talk:Wooble\|talk]]) 12:10, 23 January 2014 (UTC)		::Why are you discussing wikihack policy and procedure here? The two aren't related in any way, and their community, if they still have one, is there, not here. Personally, I can't see using that awful site for anything at all, including fan fiction. Why would I want to put new content there at all? [[User:Wooble\|Wooble]] ([[User talk:Wooble\|talk]]) 12:10, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
		+	:::i think the idea was to find a way of slowly shutting it down without alerting the authorities. wikia makes money off page visits, so a popular site like wikihack would be something they wouldn't want to shut down. distasteful thought the subject is, this seems to be an SEO problem. perhaps rather than changing the site a project could be started to contact all the people who link to that site to link to this one instead. i wonder if google et al. rate internal wikia links more or less highly? that's one big link farm either way. --[[Special:Contributions/194.116.198.185\|194.116.198.185]] 13:21, 23 January 2014 (UTC)