Genocide - Revision history

YakumoRising: /* Common genocides */ note

2025-09-05T03:32:51Z

‎Common genocides: note

Umbire the Phantom: pothole

2025-08-24T20:19:49Z

pothole

Umbire the Phantom: potholes

2025-01-16T12:17:31Z

potholes

Umbire the Phantom: /* Genocide one species (uncursed scroll or throne) */ no longer true

2024-12-16T12:15:29Z

‎Genocide one species (uncursed scroll or throne): no longer true

Umbire the Phantom: potholes

2024-11-24T10:04:12Z

potholes

Umbire the Phantom: wordsmithing

2024-08-03T12:59:31Z

wordsmithing

Lysdexia: /* Genocide-less */ :; I don’t know if “normal” qualifies “monster” or “odds”

2024-07-26T22:20:44Z

‎Genocide-less: :; I don’t know if “normal” qualifies “monster” or “odds”

ScienceBall: /* dNetHack */ remove leftover text fragment

2024-07-15T16:14:20Z

‎dNetHack: remove leftover text fragment

Umbire the Phantom: /* dNetHack */ copyedit

2024-07-15T15:04:09Z

‎dNetHack: copyedit

ScienceBall: /* dNetHack */ Fix mummy curse link

2024-06-21T19:09:37Z

‎dNetHack: Fix mummy curse link

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 * {{monsym|disenchanter}}, [[rust monster]]s and [[disenchanter]]s
-{{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|[[Sphere]] explosions may damage or destroy items, making [[shocking spheres]] or all of class {{mcsl|e}} worthy genocide targets.}}
+{{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|[[Sphere]] explosions may damage or destroy items, making [[shocking spheres]] or all of class {{mcsl|e}} worthy genocide targets. Note that class genociding spheres also wipes out [[floating eyes]], taking away tins of their meat as an easy option to re-obtain [[telepathy]].}}
 It is nearly always best to postpone genocide until you can bless your scroll, because the worst monsters don't appear until later. This gives you plenty of time to build up a cache of [[holy water]]. Note that if you are a dwarf, genociding {{white|h}} with a blessed [[scroll of genocide]] is [[instadeath|instantly fatal]]!

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 * {{mcsl|L}} [[Lich (monster class)|Liches]]: The monster class is an even bigger target for genocide due to the buffing of existing monsters and the addition of new liches, such as the [[baelnorn]], [[death knight]] and [[dokkalfar eternal matriarch]].
 * {{mcsl|M}} [[Mummies]]: The introduction of [[mummy curse]]s makes killing mummies more hazardous for a hero, and three of the new mummies in particular are especially deadly.
-** {{monsymlink|Soldier mummy}}: Their weapon attacks are decently strong, and their mummy curses on death can drain 1-7 points of [[luck]], [[curse items]], or halve the hero's HP while causing them to [[scream]] in pain.
+** {{monsymlink|Soldier mummy}}: Their weapon attacks are decently strong, and their mummy curses on death can drain 1-7 points of [[luck]], [[curse items]], or halve the hero's HP while causing them to [[Screaming (dNetHack)|scream in pain]].
 ** {{monsymlink|Priest mummy}}: They are clerical casters with a decently strong weapon attack, and their dying curses can drain 26 points of luck, curse items, halve the hero's HP and cause them to scream, inflict [[sickness]], or afflict the hero with [[mummy rot]] (or draining of [[constitution]] or [[charisma]] if they already have mummy rot).
 ** {{monsymlink|Pharaoh}}: They are covetous clerical casters with strong weapon attacks, and their dying curses can inflict sickness or mummy rot, or may cause significant damage and even instant death (depending on if the hero's HP is currently below 100).

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 ==Emergency genocide==
-The scroll of genocide is a useful [[escape item]] as it can instantly kill a monster which poses an immediate threat and cannot be dealt with in any other way. For example, a sea monster holding you, a single monster about to take your last [[hit point]], or a [[nymph]] who is robbing you blind. (The nymph will drop whatever she is carrying, so you'll get your stolen items back.) Keep in mind however that some monsters cannot be genocided.
+The scroll of genocide is a useful [[escape item]] as it can instantly kill a monster which poses an immediate threat and cannot be dealt with in any other way. For example, a sea monster holding you, a single monster about to take your last [[hit point]], or a [[Nymph (monster class)|nymph]] who is robbing you blind. (The nymph will drop whatever she is carrying, so you'll get your stolen items back.) Keep in mind however that some monsters cannot be genocided.
 ==Common genocides==
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 |[[gray ooze]] || Rusts armor, but [[glob]]s can provide intrinsics.
 |-
-|{{monsym|mountain nymph}} || [[nymph]]s (3) || If you can't kill them from a distance or in one turn (and they stole something important).
+|{{monsym|mountain nymph}} || [[Nymph (monster class)|nymphs]] (3) || If you can't kill them from a distance or in one turn (and they stole something important).
 |}

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 | {{monsym|gelatinous_cube}} || [[gelatinous cube]] || Eats organic items (esp. bags and boxes).
 |-
-| {{monsym|energy vortex}} || [[energy vortex]] || Electric shock destroys rings and wands, BUT useful resting place on the [[Plane of Air]].
+| {{monsym|energy vortex}} || [[energy vortex]] || Electric shock destroys rings and wands, and energy drain can be nasty for spellcasting heroes.
 |-
 | {{monsym|gremlin}} || [[gremlin]] || Sometimes steal intrinsics at night.

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 ** {{white|x}}, [[electric bug]]s: shock bite can explode rings and wands
 ** {{monsym|migo queen}}, [[migo queen]]s: they eat brains but are rarer and less threatening than mind flayers
-** {{monsym|basilisk}}, {{monsym|asphynx}}, [[basilisk]]s and [[asphynx]]es: both are strong and fast [[petrify|petrifying monsters]]
+** {{monsym|basilisk}} [[Basilisk (SLASH'EM)|basilisks]] and {{monsym|asphynx}} [[asphynx]]es: both are strong and fast [[stoning]] monsters
 ** {{monsym|troll mummy}}, [[troll mummy|troll mummies]]: for those who don't like to deal with [[troll]]s' regeneration. Eating their corpses isn't a terrible idea if you have a well-enchanted unicorn horn, but pets won't eat them.
 ** {{monsym|rot worm}}, [[rot worm]]s: they cause [[sickness]] with their bite and are often generated by [[summon nasties]]
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 ** {{monsymlink|Soldier mummy}}: Their weapon attacks are decently strong, and their mummy curses on death can drain 1-7 points of [[luck]], [[curse items]], or halve the hero's HP while causing them to [[scream]] in pain.
 ** {{monsymlink|Priest mummy}}: They are clerical casters with a decently strong weapon attack, and their dying curses can drain 26 points of luck, curse items, halve the hero's HP and cause them to scream, inflict [[sickness]], or afflict the hero with [[mummy rot]] (or draining of [[constitution]] or [[charisma]] if they already have mummy rot).
-** {{monsymlink|Pharaoh}}: They are covetous clerical casters with strong weapon attacks, and their dying curses can inflict sickness or mummy rot, or may even cause significant damage and even instant death (depending on if the hero's HP is currently below 100).
+** {{monsymlink|Pharaoh}}: They are covetous clerical casters with strong weapon attacks, and their dying curses can inflict sickness or mummy rot, or may cause significant damage and even instant death (depending on if the hero's HP is currently below 100).
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 It can be argued that many species are a source of useful items and properties, and hence genociding actually makes ''NetHack'' tougher. Liches sometimes provide [[athame]]s, mind flayer corpses can boost intelligence, sea monsters are trivial for a well-equipped player to deal with, etc. It is also impossible to polymorph into a genocided creature, which may limit your options in certain situations (such as using the mind flayer's mind blast to alert monsters to your presence). This viewpoint usually advocates genociding only [[mimic]]s, as this slightly increases the number of items present in shops, especially in [[Orcus Town]].
-Another possible exception is sea monsters, which although trivial can be annoying or cause [[YASD]] by inattention. These are not randomly generated, so genociding them does not affect random generation.  Since they typically live—and therefore die—in water, they are not usually a significant source of corpses or items (although electric eels are a potential source of shock resistance if you can recover the corpse). [[Electric eel]]s and [[giant eel]]s might make a good use of any single-species genocides that happen to be granted, saving mimics for a class genocide.
+Another possible exception is the sea monster: they can be trivialized as a monster class, but can also be annoying or cause [[YASD]] by inattention. These are not randomly generated, so genociding them does not affect random generation—they typically live and often die in water squares, so their corpses are generally not prioritized unless the hero desires [[shock resistance]] from an [[electric eel]] corpse. Electric eels and [[giant eel]]s might be goo targets for any single-species genocides that happen to be granted, saving mimics for a class genocide.
 Another problem with genociding is that it can increase the chances of getting more difficult, ungenocidable monsters. This is especially true for the [[summon nasties]] monster spell: summon nasties is usually restricted to a set of monsters, but if a genocided monster should be created a random monster is generated instead based on monster generation odds. If the player has the [[Amulet of Yendor]] and is outside of [[Gehennom]] there is a decent chance that an [[Archon]] or [[Ki-rin]] gets generated, a significantly greater threat than the regular list of nasties '''and''' one who can summon nasties.

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 ==Genocide-less==
-It can be argued that many species are a source of useful items and properties, and hence genociding actually makes ''NetHack'' harder. Liches sometimes provide [[athame]]s, mind flayer corpses can boost intelligence, sea monsters are trivial for a well equipped player to deal with, etc. It is also impossible to polymorph into a genocided creature, which may limit your options in certain situations (such as using the mind flayer's mind blast to alert monsters to your presence). This viewpoint usually advocates genociding only [[mimic]]s, as this will slightly increase the number of items present in shops, especially in [[Orcus Town]].
+It can be argued that many species are a source of useful items and properties, and hence genociding actually makes ''NetHack'' tougher. Liches sometimes provide [[athame]]s, mind flayer corpses can boost intelligence, sea monsters are trivial for a well-equipped player to deal with, etc. It is also impossible to polymorph into a genocided creature, which may limit your options in certain situations (such as using the mind flayer's mind blast to alert monsters to your presence). This viewpoint usually advocates genociding only [[mimic]]s, as this slightly increases the number of items present in shops, especially in [[Orcus Town]].
-Another possible exception is sea monsters, which although trivial can be annoying or cause [[YASD]] by inattention. These are not randomly generated, so genociding them does not affect random generation.  Since they typically live—and therefore die—in water, they are not normally a significant source of corpses or items (although electric eels are a potential source of shock resistance if you can recover the corpse). [[Electric eel]]s and [[giant eel]]s might make a good use of any single-species genocides that happen to be granted, saving mimics for a class genocide.
+Another possible exception is sea monsters, which although trivial can be annoying or cause [[YASD]] by inattention. These are not randomly generated, so genociding them does not affect random generation.  Since they typically live—and therefore die—in water, they are not usually a significant source of corpses or items (although electric eels are a potential source of shock resistance if you can recover the corpse). [[Electric eel]]s and [[giant eel]]s might make a good use of any single-species genocides that happen to be granted, saving mimics for a class genocide.
-Another problem with genociding is that it can increase the chances of getting more difficult, ungenocidable monsters. This is especially true for the [[summon nasties]] monster spell - summon nasties is normally restricted to a set of monsters, however if a genocided monster would be created a random monster is generated instead, based upon normal monster generation odds. If the player is carrying the [[Amulet of Yendor]] and is outside of [[Gehennom]] there is a decent chance that an [[Archon]] or [[Ki-rin]] will be generated, which are significantly more of a threat than the normal list of nasties '''and''' are capable of summoning nasties themselves.
+Another problem with genociding is that it can increase the chances of getting more difficult, ungenocidable monsters. This is especially true for the [[summon nasties]] monster spell: summon nasties is usually restricted to a set of monsters, but if a genocided monster should be created a random monster is generated instead based on monster generation odds. If the player has the [[Amulet of Yendor]] and is outside of [[Gehennom]] there is a decent chance that an [[Archon]] or [[Ki-rin]] gets generated, a significantly greater threat than the regular list of nasties '''and''' one who can summon nasties.
 Finally, some NetHack players abstain from genociding because they value a cursed genocide far more. In the mid-game, you can obtain bonuses from reverse-genocided monsters such as [[dragon scale mail]], [[Luck]] increases, experience levels, attribute boosts, [[unicorn horn]]s, intrinsics, and maximum hit point increases. In the late game, regular genocide is not that useful, because players are powerful or skilled enough to handle genocide candidates anyway.

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 ===dNetHack===
-[[dNetHack]] introduces [[mummy curse]]s. While most generic mummies have harmless curses, the {{monsym|pharaoh}} [[pharaoh]] (generates in gehennom only), {{monsym|priest mummy}} [[priest mummy]] and {{monsym|soldier mummy}} [[soldier mummy]] are quite dangerous and have nasty mummy curses.
+In [[dNetHack]], [[notdNetHack]] and [[notnotdNetHack]], several new monsters are often worthwhile targets for genocide:
-There are also more types of [[liches]], making genociding L an even more worthwhile endeavor.
+* {{monsymlink|Shoggoth|variant=dNetHack}}: They can remove your armor and are overall quite tough.
+* {{monsymlink|Bebelith}}: They can shred armor and can be created via summon nasties.
-Other good targets include:
+* {{monsymlink|Nightgaunt|variant=dNetHack}}: They can also remove your armor and will paralyze you.
+* {{monsymlink|Byakhee|variant=dNetHack}}: Can lay eggs into your armor and stun you. They spawn in groups.
-* {{monsym|bebelith}} [[Bebelith]]s can shred armor and are spawned with summon nasties.
+* {{mcsl|L}} [[Lich (monster class)|Liches]]: The monster class is an even bigger target for genocide due to the buffing of existing monsters and the addition of new liches, such as the [[baelnorn]], [[death knight]] and [[dokkalfar eternal matriarch]].
-* {{monsym|shoggoth}} [[Shoggoth (dNetHack)|Shoggoths]] can remove your armor and are overall quite tough.
+* {{mcsl|M}} [[Mummies]]: The introduction of [[mummy curse]]s makes killing mummies more hazardous for a hero, and three of the new mummies in particular are especially deadly.
-* {{monsym|nightgaunt}} [[Nightgaunt (dNetHack)|Nightgaunts]] will also remove your armor and paralyze you.
+** {{monsymlink|Soldier mummy}}: Their weapon attacks are decently strong, and their mummy curses on death can drain 1-7 points of [[luck]], [[curse items]], or halve the hero's HP while causing them to [[scream]] in pain. and/or draining of [[constitution]] or [[charisma]]
-* {{monsym|byakhee}} [[Byakhee (dNetHack)|Byakhees]] can lay eggs into your armor and stun you. They spawn in groups.
+** {{monsymlink|Priest mummy}}: They are clerical casters with a decently strong weapon attack, and their dying curses can drain 26 points of luck, curse items, halve the hero's HP and cause them to scream, inflict [[sickness]], or afflict the hero with [[mummy rot]] (or draining of [[constitution]] or [[charisma]] if they already have mummy rot).
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