Giant (starting race) - Revision history

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 ===Strategy===
-As most giants are unable to wear most body armor, players should plan their goals, [[wish]]es and [[ascension kit]]s accordingly. [[Reflection]] is somewhat more lenient to obtain as a [[property]], since you can go for an amulet, shield or an artifact you can sacrifice for (such as the highly-desired [[Dragonbane#EvilHack|Dragonbane]]). Magic resistance is somewhat more difficult, since an amulet is the only non-artifact source.
+As most giants are unable to wear most body armor, players should plan their goals, [[wish]]es and [[ascension kit]]s accordingly. [[Reflection]] is somewhat more lenient to obtain as a [[property]], since you can go for an amulet, shield or an artifact you can sacrifice for (such as the highly-desired [[Dragonbane (EvilHack)|Dragonbane]]). Magic resistance is somewhat more difficult, since an amulet is the only non-artifact source.
 Strength-boosting comestibles such as [[spinach]] give giants more strength on average because they can exceed 18/** strength; however, unless playing the Caveman role, giants cannot eat giant corpses due to the [[Luck]] and [[alignment record]] penalties from [[cannibalism]], and alignment record penalties have more gameplay implications in EvilHack.
-Most giant players should consider gathering a stack of boulders as soon as possible: multiple thrown boulders can kill various hostile monsters on offense, including stronger opponents, and on defense they can be used to arrange a wall or [[boulder fort]] to block off or constrain monsters on defense; boulders can also be used to create a path through water-blocked areas like the [[Gnomish Mines]]. However, defensive boulder walls are usually best established in advance due to the giant's low speed, and they are far from invincible - a hostile monster with a [[wand of striking]] can easily destroy a boulder fort; certain monsters can also break through boulders, either with a [[digging tool]] or through their own power, and boulders also will stop hostile giants or [[phasing]] monsters. [[Sokoban (EvilHack)|Sokoban]] and random boulder rooms are usually good sources of boulders, and digging monsters will often leave behind boulders while moving around the level.
+Most giant players should consider gathering a stack of boulders as soon as possible: multiple thrown boulders can kill various hostile monsters on offense, including stronger opponents, and on defense they can be used to arrange a wall or [[boulder fort]] to block off or constrain monsters on defense; boulders can also be used to create a path through water-blocked areas like the [[Gnomish Mines]]. However, defensive boulder walls are usually best established in advance due to the giant's low speed, and they are far from impregnable&mdash;a hostile monster with a [[wand of striking]] can easily destroy a boulder fort, while certain monsters can also break through boulders with either a [[digging tool]] or through their own power, and boulders will not stop hostile giants or [[phasing]] monsters. [[Sokoban (EvilHack)|Sokoban]] and random boulder rooms are usually good sources of boulders, and digging monsters will often leave behind boulders while moving around the level.
 ==NetHack Fourk==

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 In EvilHack, the giant is added as a playable race in version 0.1.2, and is adapted and modified from GruntHack and SliceHack.<ref>[https://github.com/k21971/EvilHack/blob/master/doc/evilhack-changelog.md#version-012 EvilHack changelog]</ref>
-Giants can be any [[alignment]], and can be played as a [[Barbarian]], [[Caveman]], [[Infidel]], [[Monk]], [[Priest]], [[Samurai]], [[Valkyrie]], or [[Wizard]].
+Giants can be any [[alignment]], and can be played as a [[Barbarian]], [[Caveman]], [[Druid]], [[Infidel]], [[Monk]], [[Priest]], [[Samurai]], [[Valkyrie]], or [[Wizard]].
 ===Racial benefits and restrictions===

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 ==SlashTHEM==
-In [[SlashTHEM]], the giant is inherited as a playable race from the gigant of [[Slash'EM Extended]]. They can be of any alignment, and can be played as a [[Barbarian]], [[Caveperson]], [[Convict]], [[Diver]], [[Firefighter]], [[Flame Mage]], [[Gladiator]], [[Lunatic]], [[Paladin (role)|Paladin]], [[Priest]], [[Ranger]], [[Undead Slayer]], [[Valkyrie]], [[Warrior (role)|Warrior]], or [[Zookeeper]].
+In [[SlashTHEM]], the giant is inherited as a playable race from the gigant of [[Slash'EM Extended]]. They can be of any alignment, and can be played as a [[Barbarian]], [[Caveperson]], [[Convict/SlashTHEM|Convict]], [[Diver]], [[Firefighter]], [[Flame Mage]], [[Gladiator]], [[Lunatic]], [[Paladin (role)|Paladin]], [[Priest]], [[Ranger]], [[Undead Slayer]], [[Valkyrie]], [[Warrior (role)|Warrior]], or [[Zookeeper]].
 [[Gnome (monster attribute)|Gnomes]] and [[Dwarf (monster attribute)|dwarves]] are always hostile towards giant heroes.

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−	The '''giant''' is a playable race that is present in [[GruntHack]], [[NetHack Fourk]], [[SliceHack]], [[SlashTHEM]], [[EvilHack]], and [[Hack'EM]]. Most implementations give them traits similar to the non-playable [[Giant (monster attribute)\|giants]] encountered in vanilla ''[[NetHack]]'', such as heightened [[strength]] caps, lower speed, and the ability to freely pick up and carry [[boulder]]s.	+	The '''giant''' is a playable [[race]] of [[hero]] that is present in [[GruntHack]], [[NetHack Fourk]], [[SliceHack]], [[SlashTHEM]], [[EvilHack]], and [[Hack'EM]]. Most implementations give them traits similar to the non-playable [[Giant (monster attribute)\|giants]] encountered in vanilla ''[[NetHack]]'', such as heightened [[strength]] caps, lower speed, and the ability to freely pick up and carry [[boulder]]s.

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 ==SlashTHEM==
-In [[SlashTHEM]], the giant is inherited as a playable race from the gigant of [[Slash'EM Extended]]. They can be of any alignment, and can be played as [[Barbarian]], [[Caveman]], [[Convict]], [[Diver]], [[Firefighter]], [[Flame Mage]], [[Gladiator]], [[Lunatic]], [[Paladin (role)|Paladin]], [[Priest]], [[Ranger]], [[Undead Slayer]], [[Valkyrie]], [[Warrior (role)|Warrior]], or [[Zookeeper]].
+In [[SlashTHEM]], the giant is inherited as a playable race from the gigant of [[Slash'EM Extended]]. They can be of any alignment, and can be played as a [[Barbarian]], [[Caveperson]], [[Convict]], [[Diver]], [[Firefighter]], [[Flame Mage]], [[Gladiator]], [[Lunatic]], [[Paladin (role)|Paladin]], [[Priest]], [[Ranger]], [[Undead Slayer]], [[Valkyrie]], [[Warrior (role)|Warrior]], or [[Zookeeper]].
 [[Gnome (monster attribute)|Gnomes]] and [[Dwarf (monster attribute)|dwarves]] are always hostile towards giant heroes.

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−	The '''giant''' is a playable race that ~~first appears~~ in [[GruntHack]], ~~and is also present in~~ [[NetHack Fourk]], [[SliceHack]], [[SlashTHEM]], [[EvilHack]], and [[Hack'EM]]. Most implementations give them traits similar to the non-playable [[Giant (monster attribute)\|giants]] encountered in vanilla ''[[NetHack]]'', such as heightened [[strength]] caps, lower speed, and the ability to freely pick up and carry [[boulder]]s.	+	The '''giant''' is a playable race that is present in [[GruntHack]], [[NetHack Fourk]], [[SliceHack]], [[SlashTHEM]], [[EvilHack]], and [[Hack'EM]]. Most implementations give them traits similar to the non-playable [[Giant (monster attribute)\|giants]] encountered in vanilla ''[[NetHack]]'', such as heightened [[strength]] caps, lower speed, and the ability to freely pick up and carry [[boulder]]s.

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 ==SlashTHEM==
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+In [[SlashTHEM]], the giant is inherited as a playable race from the gigant of [[Slash'EM Extended]]. They can be of any alignment, and can be played as [[Barbarian]], [[Caveman]], [[Convict]], [[Diver]], [[Firefighter]], [[Flame Mage]], [[Gladiator]], [[Lunatic]], [[Paladin (role)|Paladin]], [[Priest]], [[Ranger]], [[Undead Slayer]], [[Valkyrie]], [[Warrior (role)|Warrior]] or [[Zookeeper]].
-They can have any alignment, and play as the [[Barbarian]], [[Caveman]], [[Convict]], [[Diver]], [[Firefighter]], [[Flame Mage]], [[Gladiator]], [[Lunatic]], [[Paladin (role)|Paladin]], [[Priest]], [[Ranger]], [[Undead Slayer]], [[Valkyrie]], [[Warrior (role)|Warrior]] or [[Zookeeper]] roles.
-They gain [[fire resistance]] at [[XL]] 10, [[cold resistance]] at 15, and [[shock resistance]] at 20.
+[[Gnome (monster attribute)|Gnomes]] and [[Dwarf (monster attribute)|dwarves]] are always hostile towards giant heroes.
-Their [[twoweapon]] and also [[two-handed sword]] (unless a [[Caveperson]]) skills are raised to at least Skilled.
-[[Gnomes]] and [[dwarves]] are always hostile towards them.
+==Racial benefits and restrictions==
 ==References==