Giantslayer - Revision history

Quietust: /* Generation */ reword - the primary result is Giantslayer being more likely from swords, since Demonbane isn't one anymore (previous message briefly confused me into believing Giantslayer was the one that turned into a mace)

2026-02-13T22:49:36Z

‎Generation: reword - the primary result is Giantslayer being more likely from swords, since Demonbane isn't one anymore (previous message briefly confused me into believing Giantslayer was the one that turned into a mace)

Umbire the Phantom: /* EvilHack */ harbinger

2025-04-09T10:58:20Z

‎EvilHack: harbinger

Umbire the Phantom: detailing, upcoming, evil, etc.

2025-04-09T10:52:01Z

detailing, upcoming, evil, etc.

Umbire the Phantom: /* Variants */ pothole

2024-04-23T11:44:52Z

‎Variants: pothole

Umbire the Phantom: /* Variants */ copyedit and updates

2024-04-23T11:44:17Z

‎Variants: copyedit and updates

Umbire the Phantom: corrections

2023-12-09T12:29:42Z

corrections

Umbire the Phantom: /* dNetHack */ pothole

2023-12-06T09:22:22Z

‎dNetHack: pothole

Umbire the Phantom: /* GruntHack */ word choice

2023-12-06T08:50:03Z

‎GruntHack: word choice

Umbire the Phantom: chance*!!!!!!

2023-12-06T08:47:50Z

chance*!!!!!!

Umbire the Phantom: /* EvilHack */ remove orphaned fraction until I can confirm exact change

2023-12-06T08:47:15Z

‎EvilHack: remove orphaned fraction until I can confirm exact change

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 A long sword randomly generated on the ground or as a [[death drop]] has a base {{frac|20}} chance of being made into an artifact, which has a {{frac|6}} chance of being made into Giantslayer, assuming no artifact long swords have been generated. A neutral [[hero]] may receive Giantslayer as a [[sacrifice gift]].
-{{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|Per {{commit|b1a5a9c3903a0282f82787d20fd70f13196e2465}}, [[Demonbane]]'s base item is a changed to a [[mace]], so any long sword made into an artifact has a {{frac|5}} chance of being made into Giantslayer.
+{{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|Per {{commit|b1a5a9c3903a0282f82787d20fd70f13196e2465}}, the chance of an artifact long sword being Giantslayer is raised to {{frac|5}} as a result of [[Demonbane]]'s base item being changed to a [[mace]].
 Per {{commit|d87cadaf}} and {{commit|c2c797fa357bef663fa3d962850196350a9cdb3b}}, artifact balance is substantially reworked: artifacts have 2 additional internal stats&mdash;the minimum [[sacrifice]] value required to obtain them by sacrificing (which is usually just the [[Monster difficulty|difficulty rating]] of the monster sacrificed), and a flat number added to the weapon's [[enchantment]] when it is either randomly generated or gifted.

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	Giantslayer is the [[crowning]] gift for [[Caveman/EvilHack\|Cavepeople]] that are not of the giant race, with lawful Cavepeople obtaining the artifact by wielding a spear at the time of crowning, while neutral Cavepeople will have the artifact gifted and placed at their feet—giant Cavepeople of either alignment will instead be given [[Keolewa (EvilHack)\|Keolewa]] in its place both circumstances.		Giantslayer is the [[crowning]] gift for [[Caveman/EvilHack\|Cavepeople]] that are not of the giant race, with lawful Cavepeople obtaining the artifact by wielding a spear at the time of crowning, while neutral Cavepeople will have the artifact gifted and placed at their feet—giant Cavepeople of either alignment will instead be given [[Keolewa (EvilHack)\|Keolewa]] in its place both circumstances.
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		+	Giantslayer can be combined with Keolewa at a [[Forge (dungeon feature)\|forge]] to create [[Harbinger]], an artifact [[aklys]] that has the giant-killing properties of Giantslayer.

	===Hack'EM===		===Hack'EM===

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-'''Giantslayer''' is an [[artifact weapon]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. It is [[neutral]]-aligned, and its [[base item]] is a [[long sword]].
+'''Giantslayer''' is an [[artifact]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. It is [[neutral]]-aligned, and its [[base item]] is a [[long sword]].
 ==Generation==
-Giantslayer may be given as a [[sacrifice gift]] to any neutral character. Any randomly-generated long sword has a base {{frac|20}} chance of being made into Giantslayer.
+A long sword randomly generated on the ground or as a [[death drop]] has a base {{frac|20}} chance of being made into an artifact, which has a {{frac|6}} chance of being made into Giantslayer, assuming no artifact long swords have been generated. A neutral [[hero]] may receive Giantslayer as a [[sacrifice gift]].
 ==Description==
-Giantslayer has a +1d5 [[to-hit]] bonus and deals [[double damage]] against non-[[undead]] [[M2_GIANT|giants]].
+Giantslayer has a +1d5 [[to-hit]] bonus and deals [[double damage]] against [[Giant (monster attribute)|giants]].
-{{upcoming|3.7.0|Wielding Giantslayer now confers [[steadfastness]], preventing you from being sent flying by attacks.}}
+{{upcoming|3.7.0|Wielding Giantslayer now grants [[steadfastness]], preventing the wielder from being sent flying by attacks.}}
 ==Strategy==
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 ===EvilHack===
-In [[EvilHack]], Giantslayer's base item is changed to a [[spear]]. While wielded, Giantslayer sets the wielder's strength to 25, provides knockback resistance and warns of giants - it cannot be wielded by a giant character. Like all Banes in EvilHack, Giantslayer has a chance of instakilling giants it strikes by evisceration.
+In [[EvilHack]], Giantslayer's base item is changed to a [[spear]]. While wielded, Giantslayer sets the wielder's strength to 25, provides knockback resistance, warns of giants, and has a chance of instakilling any giants it strikes (which is flavored as death by evisceration), making it very dangerous if a [[Giant (starting race)|giant]] hero encounters a hostile monster wielding it. Giants that see a hero wielding Giantslayer will become hostile, and giant [[shopkeeper]]s will bar that hero from their shop.
 ===Hack'EM===

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 ===SpliceHack===
-In [[SpliceHack]], Giantslayer additionally warns of giants while wielded and prevents the wielder from being knocked back by attacks.
+In [[SpliceHack]], Giantslayer additionally warns of giants while wielded and [[Knockback resistance|prevents the wielder from being knocked back by attacks]].
 ===EvilHack===
-In [[EvilHack]], Giantslayer's base item is changed to a [[spear]]. While wielded, Giantslayer sets the wielder's strength to 25, provides [[knockback resistance]] and warns of giants - it cannot be wielded by a giant character. Like all Banes in EvilHack, Giantslayer has a chance of instakilling giants it strikes by evisceration.
+In [[EvilHack]], Giantslayer's base item is changed to a [[spear]]. While wielded, Giantslayer sets the wielder's strength to 25, provides knockback resistance and warns of giants - it cannot be wielded by a giant character. Like all Banes in EvilHack, Giantslayer has a chance of instakilling giants it strikes by evisceration.
 ===Hack'EM===

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 ===SporkHack===
-In [[GruntHack]], Giantslayer's base item is changed to a [[sling]]. It still has +1d5 to-hit, and its bonus damage against giants is changed to +1d8. While wielded, it warns of giants and sets the wielder's [[strength]] to 18/** - this can happen even if the artifact occupies the alternate weapon slot.
+In [[SporkHack]], Giantslayer's base item is changed to a [[sling]]. It still has +1d5 to-hit, and its bonus damage is changed to +1d8 against [[giant humanoid]]s. While wielded, it warns of giant humanoids and sets the wielder's [[strength]] to 18/** - this can happen even if the artifact occupies the alternate weapon slot.
 ===UnNetHack===
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 Giantslayer deals +1d4 bonus damage against small monsters and +2d4 against large monsters - against large monsters, it also gains +1d10 to-hit and +1d20 damage. Carrying Giantslayer grants warning of giants and other [[boulder]]-throwing monsters, and hitting such a monster with Giantslayer reduces their movement points by 6 and has a {{frac|10}} chance of attempting to [[cancel]] the target (subject to their [[Magic resistance (monster)|MR score]]).
 ===FIQHack===
-In [[FIQHack]], Giantslayer's double damage is replaced with a +1d20 damage bonus versus giants.
+In [[FIQHack]], Giantslayer's double damage versus giants is replaced with a +1d20 damage bonus.
 ===SpliceHack===
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 ===EvilHack===
-In [[EvilHack]], Giantslayer's base item is changed to a [[spear]]. While wielded, Giantslayer sets the wielder's strength to 25, provides [[knockback resistance]] and warns of giants - it cannot be wielded by a giant character. Like all Banes in EvilHack, Giantslayer has a chance of instakilling giants that it hits by evisceration.
+In [[EvilHack]], Giantslayer's base item is changed to a [[spear]]. While wielded, Giantslayer sets the wielder's strength to 25, provides [[knockback resistance]] and warns of giants - it cannot be wielded by a giant character. Like all Banes in EvilHack, Giantslayer has a chance of instakilling giants it strikes by evisceration.
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 [[Category:Artifact weapons]]

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 ==Strategy==
-Like most of [[the Banes]], Giantslayer has too narrow a damage range to be particularly useful: most of its targets are not especially threatening on their own for the point they are encountered, and the very few that are (primarily [[titan]]s) can also be dispatched through other means, including artifact weapons that cover a wider range of monsters and/or deal more damage overall. Unlike some of the other Banes, Giantslayer may still be fine enough as an artifact weapon for an early neutral character - a long sword is an acceptable base weapon, and receiving it via sacrifice can unrestrict long swords for characters looking to use other artifacts such as [[Frost Brand]] that they either discover randomly or via [[bones]].
+Like most of [[the Banes]], Giantslayer has too narrow a damage range to be particularly useful: most giants are not especially threatening on their own for the point they are encountered, and in situations where they become a threat they can also be dispatched through other means, including artifact weapons that cover a wider range of monsters and/or deal more damage overall. Unlike some of the other Banes, Giantslayer may still be fine enough as an artifact weapon for an early neutral character - a long sword is an acceptable base weapon, and receiving it via sacrifice can unrestrict long swords for characters looking to use other long sword artifacts (e.g., [[Frost Brand]]) that they either discover randomly or via [[bones]].
 ==History==

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 ===dNetHack===
-In [[dNetHack]], Giantslayer is [[unaligned]], and its base item is changed to an axe. Giantslayer does not resist being [[twoweapon]]ed in the offhand, but incurs a -20 to-hit penalty when used this way unless the character has Grand Master skill in [[two weapon combat]] (which only a [[Monk]] can achieve in practice).
+In [[dNetHack]], Giantslayer is [[unaligned]], and its base item is changed to an axe. Giantslayer does not resist being [[twoweapon]]ed in the offhand, but incurs a -20 to-hit penalty when used this way unless the character has Grand Master skill in two weapon combat (which only a [[Monk]] can achieve in practice).
 Giantslayer deals +1d4 bonus damage against small monsters and +2d4 against large monsters - against large monsters, it also gains +1d10 to-hit and +1d20 damage. Carrying Giantslayer grants warning of giants and other [[boulder]]-throwing monsters, and hitting such a monster with Giantslayer reduces their movement points by 6 and has a {{frac|10}} chance of attempting to [[cancel]] the target (subject to their [[Magic resistance (monster)|MR score]]).

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 ===GruntHack===
-In [[GruntHack]], Giantslayer grants [[Warned of monster type|warning of giants]].
+In [[GruntHack]], Giantslayer additionally grants [[Warned of monster type|warning of giants]].
 ===SporkHack===

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 ==Variants==
 ===SLASH'EM===
-In [[SLASH'EM]], Giantslayer is replaced with [[Giantkiller]], a neutral axe with the same to-hit bonus and double damage range.
+In [[SLASH'EM]], Giantslayer is replaced with [[Giantkiller]], a neutral axe with the same to-hit bonus and double damage range. This also applies to [[SlashTHEM]].
 ===GruntHack===