Hiding - Revision history

Ion frigate: -ing

2024-05-17T08:48:57Z

-ing

Ion frigate: some wiztesting

2024-05-17T08:48:12Z

some wiztesting

Umbire the Phantom: lede

2024-01-02T00:00:50Z

lede

Ion frigate: this is now its own article

2023-07-25T13:17:37Z

this is now its own article

Ion frigate: wrong word

2023-07-25T13:16:39Z

wrong word

Ion frigate: can also use telepathy here

2023-07-25T13:16:21Z

can also use telepathy here

Umbire the Phantom at 01:36, 14 January 2020

2020-01-14T01:36:22Z

Netzhack at 14:01, 28 December 2016

2016-12-28T14:01:13Z

ChasonBot at 15:34, 19 December 2015

2015-12-19T15:34:00Z

Bcode: s/lurker aboves/lurkers above/

2013-04-01T07:15:34Z

s/lurker aboves/lurkers above/

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 Attacking a hiding monster in melee (e.g. with {{kbd|F}} or detected via telepathy) will cause it to stop hiding and attack you with its normal attacks.  Attacking with ranged weapons and spells, as well as [[kick]]ing, will not.  A monster that stops hiding must use an action to re-hide itself, and will only do so when it is not in your line of sight; as many hiding monsters are quite slow, it may take some time for them to hide again.  [[Cancellation]] will not reveal hidden monsters, but it will prevent trappers, lurkers above and piercers from re-hiding.
-[[Search]]ing is guaranteed to reveal their position, and causes them to stick to you if applicable.  Apply a [[stethoscope]] or [[wand of probing]] at a hiding monster's square will reveal its presence, but not cause it to act. It will be described as '''concealed'''.
+[[Search]]ing is guaranteed to reveal their position, and causes them to stick to you if applicable.  Applying a [[stethoscope]] or [[wand of probing]] at a hiding monster's square will reveal its presence, but not cause it to act. It will be described as '''concealed'''.
 ==Player hiding==

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 If you know exactly where the hiding monster is and are already adjacent, you can simply use the {{kbd|F}} command to [[fight]] it; if you can detect the monster directly (most likely through [[telepathy]]), you can simply attempt to move on its square as normal. Otherwise, the monster will get a turn, and hence a chance to hit you, before you do. It is possible to hit hidden monsters with [[ranged weapon]]s or [[throw]]n objects, making it fairly easy for wary players to detect them. [[Gold]] is good to throw because it is abundant, does not risk breaking [[pacifist]] conduct, and gets you [[credit]] in [[store]]s.
-[[Search]]ing is guaranteed to reveal their position, and causes them to stick to you if applicable.
+Attacking a hiding monster in melee (e.g. with {{kbd|F}} or detected via telepathy) will cause it to stop hiding and attack you with its normal attacks.  Attacking with ranged weapons and spells, as well as [[kick]]ing, will not.  A monster that stops hiding must use an action to re-hide itself, and will only do so when it is not in your line of sight; as many hiding monsters are quite slow, it may take some time for them to hide again.  [[Cancellation]] will not reveal hidden monsters, but it will prevent trappers, lurkers above and piercers from re-hiding.
 ==Player hiding==

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−	In ''[[NetHack]]'', some [[monsters]] have the ability to '''hide'''. [[Trapper]]s, [[lurkers above]], and various [[piercer]]s can innately hide on the ceiling. [[Cave spider]]s and all [[~~snake~~]]~~s except [[water moccasin]]s~~ can hide under objects on the ground. [[Mimic]]s can disguise as objects, which is related. All [[sea monster]]s can hide in [[water]].	+	In ''[[NetHack]]'', some [[monsters]] have the ability to '''hide'''. [[Trapper]]s, [[lurkers above]], and various [[piercer]]s can innately hide on the ceiling. [[Cave spider]]s and all [[Snake (monster class)\|snakes]] can hide under objects on the ground. [[Mimic]]s can disguise as objects, which is related. All [[sea monster]]s can hide in [[water]].

	Moving next to a monster hidden in this manner grants them an opportunity to attack you unnoticed, and attempting to move onto the tile where they are produces "[[Wait!]] There's a [[foo]] hiding under <an item>!", wasting your movement time. This also goes for movement with the {{kbd\|m}} command (sometimes except if you are [[warned]] of the creature).		Moving next to a monster hidden in this manner grants them an opportunity to attack you unnoticed, and attempting to move onto the tile where they are produces "[[Wait!]] There's a [[foo]] hiding under <an item>!", wasting your movement time. This also goes for movement with the {{kbd\|m}} command (sometimes except if you are [[warned]] of the creature).

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−	In ''[[NetHack]]'', some [[monsters]] have the ability to '''hide'''. [[Trapper]]s, [[lurkers above]], and various [[piercer]]s can innately hide on the ceiling. [[Cave spider]]s and all [[snake]]s except [[water moccasin]]s can hide under objects on the ground. [[Mimic]]s can disguise as objects, which is related. All [[;\|sea ~~monsters~~]] can hide in [[water]].	+	In ''[[NetHack]]'', some [[monsters]] have the ability to '''hide'''. [[Trapper]]s, [[lurkers above]], and various [[piercer]]s can innately hide on the ceiling. [[Cave spider]]s and all [[snake]]s except [[water moccasin]]s can hide under objects on the ground. [[Mimic]]s can disguise as objects, which is related. All [[sea monster]]s can hide in [[water]].

	Moving next to a monster hidden in this manner grants them an opportunity to attack you unnoticed, and attempting to move onto the tile where they are produces "[[Wait!]] There's a [[foo]] hiding under <an item>!", wasting your movement time. This also goes for movement with the {{kbd\|m}} command (sometimes except if you are [[warned]] of the creature).		Moving next to a monster hidden in this manner grants them an opportunity to attack you unnoticed, and attempting to move onto the tile where they are produces "[[Wait!]] There's a [[foo]] hiding under <an item>!", wasting your movement time. This also goes for movement with the {{kbd\|m}} command (sometimes except if you are [[warned]] of the creature).

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 Moving next to a monster hidden in this manner grants them an opportunity to attack you unnoticed, and attempting to move onto the tile where they are produces "[[Wait!]] There's a [[foo]] hiding under <an item>!", wasting your movement time. This also goes for movement with the {{kbd|m}} command (sometimes except if you are [[warned]] of the creature).
-If you know exactly where the hiding monster is and are already adjacent, you can simply use the {{kbd|F}} command to [[fight]] it; if you can direct the monster directly (most likely through [[telepathy]]), you can simply attempt to move on its square as normal. Otherwise, the monster will get a turn, and hence a chance to hit you, before you do. It is possible to hit hidden monsters with [[ranged weapon]]s or [[throw]]n objects, making it fairly easy for wary players to detect them. [[Gold]] is good to throw because it is abundant, does not risk breaking [[pacifist]] conduct, and gets you [[credit]] in [[store]]s.
+If you know exactly where the hiding monster is and are already adjacent, you can simply use the {{kbd|F}} command to [[fight]] it; if you can detect the monster directly (most likely through [[telepathy]]), you can simply attempt to move on its square as normal. Otherwise, the monster will get a turn, and hence a chance to hit you, before you do. It is possible to hit hidden monsters with [[ranged weapon]]s or [[throw]]n objects, making it fairly easy for wary players to detect them. [[Gold]] is good to throw because it is abundant, does not risk breaking [[pacifist]] conduct, and gets you [[credit]] in [[store]]s.
 [[Search]]ing is guaranteed to reveal their position, and causes them to stick to you if applicable.

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-[[Trapper]]s, [[lurker above|lurkers above]], and various [[piercer]]s can innately '''hide'''. [[Cave spider]]s and all [[snake]]s except [[water moccasin]]s can hide under objects on the ground. [[Mimic]]s can disguise as objects, which is related. All [[;|water creatures]] can hide in [[water]].
+In ''[[NetHack]]'', some [[monsters]] have the ability to '''hide'''. [[Trapper]]s, [[lurkers above]], and various [[piercer]]s can innately hide on the ceiling. [[Cave spider]]s and all [[snake]]s except [[water moccasin]]s can hide under objects on the ground. [[Mimic]]s can disguise as objects, which is related. All [[;|sea monsters]] can hide in [[water]].
-Moving next to a monster so hidden grants them an opportunity to attack you unnoticed, and attempting to move onto the tile where they are produces "[[Wait!]] There's a [[foo]] hiding under <an item>!", wasting your movement time. This also goes for movement with the {{kbd|m}} command (sometimes except if you are [[warned]] of the creature).
+Moving next to a monster hidden in this manner grants them an opportunity to attack you unnoticed, and attempting to move onto the tile where they are produces "[[Wait!]] There's a [[foo]] hiding under <an item>!", wasting your movement time. This also goes for movement with the {{kbd|m}} command (sometimes except if you are [[warned]] of the creature).
-If you know exactly where the hiding monster is and are already adjacent, you can simply use the {{kbd|F}} command to [[fight]] it. Otherwise, the monster will get a turn, and hence a chance to hit you, before you do. It is possible to hit hidden monsters with [[ranged weapon]]s, making it fairly easy for wary players to detect them.
+If you know exactly where the hiding monster is and are already adjacent, you can simply use the {{kbd|F}} command to [[fight]] it. Otherwise, the monster will get a turn, and hence a chance to hit you, before you do. It is possible to hit hidden monsters with [[ranged weapon]]s or [[throw]]n objects, making it fairly easy for wary players to detect them. [[Gold]] is good to throw because it is abundant, does not risk breaking [[pacifist]] conduct, and gets you [[credit]] in [[store]]s.
-[[Search]]ing or [[throw]]ing objects is guaranteed to reveal their position. Searching causes them to stick to you if applicable. [[Gold]] is good to throw because it is abundant, does not risk breaking [[pacifist]] conduct, and gets you [[credit_cloning|credit]] in [[store]]s.
+[[Search]]ing is guaranteed to reveal their position, and causes them to stick to you if applicable.
 ==Player hiding==
-If you are [[polyself]]ed in to a monster capable of hiding, you can use the #[[Monster (command)|monster]] command to hide under objects.
+If you are [[polymorph]]ed into a monster capable of hiding, you can use the #[[Monster (command)|monster]] command to hide under objects or on the ceiling. As of [[NetHack 3.6.4]], if you are polymorphed into a monster capable of hiding on the ceiling, you can use '''{{kbd|>}}''' to unhide.
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−	[[Trapper]]s, [[lurker above]]s, and various [[piercer]]s can innately '''hide'''. [[Cave spider]]s and all [[snake]]s except [[water moccasin]]s can hide under objects on the ground. [[Mimic]]s can disguise as objects, which is related. All [[;\|water creatures]] can hide in [[water]].	+	[[Trapper]]s, [[lurker above\|lurkers above]], and various [[piercer]]s can innately '''hide'''. [[Cave spider]]s and all [[snake]]s except [[water moccasin]]s can hide under objects on the ground. [[Mimic]]s can disguise as objects, which is related. All [[;\|water creatures]] can hide in [[water]].

	Moving next to a monster so hidden grants them an opportunity to attack you unnoticed, and attempting to move onto the tile where they are produces "[[Wait!]] There's a [[foo]] hiding under <an item>!", wasting your movement time. This also goes for movement with the {{kbd\|m}} command (sometimes except if you are [[warned]] of the creature).		Moving next to a monster so hidden grants them an opportunity to attack you unnoticed, and attempting to move onto the tile where they are produces "[[Wait!]] There's a [[foo]] hiding under <an item>!", wasting your movement time. This also goes for movement with the {{kbd\|m}} command (sometimes except if you are [[warned]] of the creature).