Knightly stances - Revision history

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Umbire the Phantom: potholes et. al.

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potholes et. al.

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 ==Description==
-Knightly stances all use separate [[skill]]s, and are only accessible to a [[hero]] that is either in the role of a [[Knight]] (including a [[Dwarf Knight]]) or has bound the [[Spirits (dNetHack)|spirit]] [[Naberius]] (which causes all restricted and untrained skills to be treated as Basic). Knights can reach Expert level in the four stances that can be trained&mdash;the two un-trainable ones are automatically applied when their conditions are met, i.e. wielding a long sword for runic style combat, or wielding a long sword without an offhand weapon or shield for half-sword style combat. Each skill must be active and have its conditions met in order to train it.
+Knightly stances all use separate [[skill]]s, and are only accessible to a [[hero]] that is either in the role of a [[Knight/dNetHack|Knight]] (including a [[Dwarf Knight]]) or has bound the [[Spirits (dNetHack)|spirit]] [[Naberius]] (which causes all restricted and untrained skills to be treated as Basic). Knights can reach Expert level in the four stances that can be trained&mdash;the two un-trainable ones are automatically applied when their conditions are met, i.e. wielding a long sword for runic style combat, or wielding a long sword without an offhand weapon or shield for half-sword style combat. Each skill must be active and have its conditions met in order to train it.
 The advanced knightly stances are automatically unrestricted at experience level 14: they will become restricted and disabled if the hero is [[Drain life|drained]] or otherwise loses levels so that they end up below XL 14, but will not be unselected; upon regaining enough levels to reach XL 14, the stance will be re-enabled immediately, allowing the hero to resume its usage.

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 Elemental damage is applied with the same odds of the hero successfully casting the equivalent spell: a Knight that has a 75% spell failure rate for the finger of death spell while at Expert skill in attack spells has a 25% chance (or {{frac|4}}) of adding +6d13 dark damage on each hit. The skill for attack spells is only checked whenever it would be required to cast the spell at all&mdash;this allows the eldritch style to work with [[artifact]]s that reduce the failure rate for casting certain attack spells to 0%.
-The damage dealt by [[finger of death]] mimics the effects of the spell itself, dealing damage to anything that isn't an angel, demon, [[Keter Sephiroth]], or otherwise [[nonliving]]. Poison spray & acid splash also cause the weapon to be treated as if it is [[poisoned]] (with acidic poison, for the latter)&mdash;this will add the corresponding effects of those poisons, including bonus damage, potential for a poison instakill, and '''alignment penalties if used by a lawful Knight'''.
+The damage dealt by [[finger of death]] mimics the effects of the spell itself, dealing damage to anything that isn't an angel, demon, [[Keter Sephiroth]], or otherwise [[nonliving]]. Poison spray & acid splash also cause the weapon to be treated as a [[poisoned weapon]] of the respective type, i.e. basic poison or acidic poison&mdash;this will add the corresponding effects of those poisons, including bonus damage, potential for a poison instakill, and '''alignment penalties if used by a lawful Knight'''.
 ==Strategy==

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 Elemental damage is applied with the same odds of the hero successfully casting the equivalent spell: a Knight that has a 75% spell failure rate for the finger of death spell while at Expert skill in attack spells has a 25% chance (or {{frac|4}}) of adding +6d13 dark damage on each hit. The skill for attack spells is only checked whenever it would be required to cast the spell at all&mdash;this allows the eldritch style to work with [[artifact]]s that reduce the failure rate for casting certain attack spells to 0%.
-The damage dealt by [[finger of death]] mimics the effects of the spell itself, dealing damage to anything that isn't an angel, demon, [[Keter Sephiroth]], or otherwise [[nonliving]]. Poison spray & acid splash also cause the weapon to be treated as if it is [[poisoned]] (with acidic poison, for the latter) - this will add the corresponding effects of those poisons, including minor damage, potential for a poison instakill, and '''alignment penalties if used by a lawful Knight'''.
+The damage dealt by [[finger of death]] mimics the effects of the spell itself, dealing damage to anything that isn't an angel, demon, [[Keter Sephiroth]], or otherwise [[nonliving]]. Poison spray & acid splash also cause the weapon to be treated as if it is [[poisoned]] (with acidic poison, for the latter)&mdash;this will add the corresponding effects of those poisons, including bonus damage, potential for a poison instakill, and '''alignment penalties if used by a lawful Knight'''.
 ==Strategy==

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 * {{+ of|finger of death}}
-The eldritch style is trained on every hit landed while the stance is active, but only if the extra damage is actually applied (i.e. you successfully 'cast' the spell and it was not resisted). The spell used is chosen when you first activate the stance, and can be changed to any other known eligible spell by attempting to activate the skill again. Spells must be still have memory remaining to select them, but forgetting the spell while it's already active will not disable the bonus damage&mdash;however, changing stances will prevent you from regaining the bonus damage until your memory of that spell improves. Successful hits will cost power equal to the level of the spell&mdash;if you lack enough power, it will not subtract any and nothing will happen. The bonus damage uses the level of the spell to determine the die size, and the hero's skill level in the eldritch style to determine the number of dice rolled: 1 die is used for Basic, 3 dice are used for Skilled, and 6 dice are used for Expert. The table below lists the damage dice used for each spell at each skill level:
+The eldritch style is trained on every hit landed while the stance is active, but only if the extra damage is actually applied (i.e. you successfully 'cast' the spell and it was not resisted). The spell used is chosen when you first activate the stance, and can be changed to any other known eligible spell by attempting to activate the skill again. A spell is only eligible while the hero has memory of it remaining, but forgetting the spell while it's already active will not disable the bonus damage&mdash;however, changing stances will prevent the bonus damage from applying until the hero's memory of that spell improves. Successful hits will cost power equal to the level of the spell&mdash;if you lack enough power, it will not subtract any and nothing will happen. The bonus damage uses the level of the spell to determine the die size, and the hero's skill level in the eldritch style to determine the number of dice rolled: 1 die is used for Basic, 3 dice are used for Skilled, and 6 dice are used for Expert. The table below lists the damage dice used for each spell at each skill level:
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 When attacking using weapons in the sacred style, the weapon's beatitude must match their alignment record and the holiness of the god that they serve in order for bonus damage to be applicable: a Knight serving a god of holy or neutral holiness gains bonuses to holy damage with a blessed weapon if their alignment record is non-negative, and gains bonuses to unholy damage with a cursed weapon if their alignment record is negative. A Knight serving a god of unholy holiness instead gains bonuses to unholy damage with a cursed weapon if their alignment record is non-negative, and gains bonuses to holy damage with a blessed weapon if their alignment record is negative.
-As all of the gods in the Knight pantheon are of holy holiness, the former condition above applies by default, barring a conversion to an unholy god of another pantheon from an [[altar]] in the dungeon. While the lawful god of the Dwarf Knight pantheon, [[Mahal]], is also holy, the neutral god Holashner and the chaotic god Armok are unholy, resulting in the latter condition applying if a Dwarf Knight changes alignments.
+As all of the gods in the Knight pantheon are of holy holiness, the former condition above applies by default, barring a conversion to an unholy god of another pantheon from an [[altar]] in the dungeon. While the lawful god of the Dwarf Knight pantheon, [[Mahal]], is also holy, the neutral god Holashner and the chaotic god Armok are unholy, resulting in the latter condition applying if a Dwarf Knight converts to worship of either deity.
 ===Runic style===

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-In [[dNetHack]], [[notdNetHack]] and [[notnotdNetHack]], certain [[hero]]es are capable of employing '''knightly combat styles''' (or '''knightly stances''') to enhance their combat abilities - there are three basic styles and three advanced styles, and only one style can be active at a time.
+In [[dNetHack]], [[notdNetHack]] and [[notnotdNetHack]], certain [[hero]]es are capable of employing '''knightly combat styles''', also known as '''knightly styles''' or '''knightly stances''', to enhance their combat abilities&mdash;there are three basic stances and three advanced stances, and only one stance can be active at a time.
-==List of styles==
+==List of stances==
-The six knightly combat styles are as follows:
+The six knightly combat styles or stances are as follows:
 * {{sa|Shield bashing}}, which utilizes a [[worn]] [[shield]] as a weapon alongside the primary weapon for additional damage and debuffs
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 ==Description==
-Knightly styles all use separate [[skill]]s, and are only accessible to a [[hero]] that is either in the role of a [[Knight]] (including a [[Dwarf Knight]]) or has bound the [[Spirits (dNetHack)|spirit]] [[Naberius]] (which causes all restricted and untrained skills to be treated as Basic). Knights can reach Expert level in the four styles that can be trained - the two un-trainable ones are automatically applied when their conditions are met, i.e. wielding a long sword for runic style combat, or wielding a long sword without an offhand weapon or shield for half-sword style combat. Each skill must be active and have its conditions met in order to train it.
+Knightly stances all use separate [[skill]]s, and are only accessible to a [[hero]] that is either in the role of a [[Knight]] (including a [[Dwarf Knight]]) or has bound the [[Spirits (dNetHack)|spirit]] [[Naberius]] (which causes all restricted and untrained skills to be treated as Basic). Knights can reach Expert level in the four stances that can be trained&mdash;the two un-trainable ones are automatically applied when their conditions are met, i.e. wielding a long sword for runic style combat, or wielding a long sword without an offhand weapon or shield for half-sword style combat. Each skill must be active and have its conditions met in order to train it.
-The advanced knightly styles are automatically unrestricted at experience level 14: they will become restricted and disabled if the hero is [[Drain life|drained]] or otherwise loses levels so that they end up below XL 14, but will not be unselected; upon regaining enough levels to reach XL 14, the style will be re-enabled immediately, allowing the hero to resume its usage.
+The advanced knightly stances are automatically unrestricted at experience level 14: they will become restricted and disabled if the hero is [[Drain life|drained]] or otherwise loses levels so that they end up below XL 14, but will not be unselected; upon regaining enough levels to reach XL 14, the stance will be re-enabled immediately, allowing the hero to resume its usage.
 ===Shield bashing===
-The '''shield bashing''' style allows the hero to make offhand attacks with a worn shield, which adds bonuses from [[enchantment]] or properties like a normal weapon attack. Shield bashing uses a base die of d2 at Unskilled, which increases in size by 2 for each skill level (up to d8 at expert) - the die size is modified by size as normal for weapons, so a shield size that is any amount of steps above or below medium will increase or decrease the die size by 2 per step. Shield bashing also slightly decreases the bonus to AC granted from the hero's skill in [[Shield (skill)#dNetHack|shields]].
+The '''shield bashing''' stance allows the hero to make offhand attacks with a worn shield, which adds bonuses from [[enchantment]] or properties like a normal weapon attack. Shield bashing uses a base die of d2 at Unskilled, which increases in size by 2 for each skill level (up to d8 at expert) - the die size is modified by size as normal for weapons, so a shield size that is any amount of steps above or below medium will increase or decrease the die size by 2 per step. Shield bashing also slightly decreases the bonus to AC granted from the hero's skill in [[Shield (skill)#dNetHack|shields]].
 A successful shield bash hit trains the skill and also lowers the target's [[morale]] by one point for each skill level past Basic, decreasing their accuracy and damage; the minimum floor on morale loss that is applied this way is further lowered by 5 damage for each skill level the hero has. The table below lists the damage, morale and penalty caps for each skill level:
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 ===Great-weapon fighting===
-The '''great-weapon fighting''' style increases the minimum roll for the base damage dice of a weapon wielded with both hands (including normally one-handed weapons) by 1 per level of skill in that weapon, i.e. 1 for Basic, 2 for Skilled, and 3 for Expert. This can be expressed with the equation ''N''d(''X'' - ''i'') + (''N'' * ''i''): ''i'' represents the value of the minimum roll increase, ''N'' is the number of hit dice, and ''X'' is the original die size - for example, a [[two-handed sword]] against large monsters has base damage of 3d6; using the great-weapon fighting style, this becomes 3d(6 - 3) + (3 * 3), or 3d3 + 9.
+The '''great-weapon fighting''' stance increases the minimum roll for the base damage dice of a weapon wielded with both hands (including normally one-handed weapons) by 1 per level of skill in that weapon, i.e. 1 for Basic, 2 for Skilled, and 3 for Expert. This can be expressed with the equation ''N''d(''X'' - ''i'') + (''N'' * ''i''): ''i'' represents the value of the minimum roll increase, ''N'' is the number of hit dice, and ''X'' is the original die size - for example, a [[two-handed sword]] against large monsters has base damage of 3d6; using the great-weapon fighting stance, this becomes 3d(6 - 3) + (3 * 3), or 3d3 + 9.
-Great-weapon fighting is trained by attacking with any non-cursed weapon wielded in both hands while the style is active, and stacks with one of [[exploding dice]] or lucky dice, but ''not'' exploding lucky dice.
+Great-weapon fighting is trained by attacking with any non-cursed weapon wielded in both hands while the stance is active, and stacks with one of [[exploding dice]] or lucky dice, but ''not'' exploding lucky dice.
 ===Half-sword style===
-The '''half-sword''' style is unlocked by default, and requires the hero to use both hands when wielding a long sword, treating it as a two-handed weapon while the style is active and granting relevant bonuses, e.g. from [[strength]]. A long sword wielded with the half-sword style solely inflicts piercing damage with its attacks, as opposed to piercing and slashing damage from wielding one normally - these attacks also ignore [[AC]] and [[DR]] from the target's worn armor.
+The '''half-sword''' style is unlocked by default, and requires the hero to use both hands when wielding a long sword, treating it as a two-handed weapon while the stance is active and granting relevant bonuses, e.g. from [[strength]]. A long sword wielded with the half-sword style solely inflicts piercing damage with its attacks, as opposed to piercing and slashing damage from wielding one normally&mdash;these attacks also ignore [[AC]] and [[DR]] from the target's worn armor.
 ===Sacred style===
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 ===Runic style===
-The '''runic''' advanced style grants the hero magic resistance while wielding a long sword with a minimum of Basic skill in long swords as long as the style is active.
+The '''runic''' advanced style grants the hero magic resistance while wielding a long sword with a minimum of Basic skill in long swords as long as the stance is active.
 ===Eldritch style===
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 * {{+ of|finger of death}}
-The eldritch style is trained on every hit landed while the style is active, but only if the extra damage is actually applied (i.e. you successfully 'cast' the spell and it was not resisted). The spell used is chosen when you first activate the style, and can be changed to any other known eligible spell by attempting to activate the skill again. Spells must be still have memory remaining to select them, but forgetting the spell while it's already active will not disable the bonus damage - however if you switch off you won't be able to re-enable it until your memory improves. Successful hits will cost power equal to the level of the spell - if you lack enough power, it will not subtract any and nothing will happen. The bonus damage uses the level of the spell to determine the die size, and the hero's skill level in the eldritch style to determine the number of dice rolled: 1 die is used for Basic, 3 dice are used for Skilled, and 6 dice are used for Expert. The table below lists the damage dice used for each spell at each skill level:
+The eldritch style is trained on every hit landed while the stance is active, but only if the extra damage is actually applied (i.e. you successfully 'cast' the spell and it was not resisted). The spell used is chosen when you first activate the stance, and can be changed to any other known eligible spell by attempting to activate the skill again. Spells must be still have memory remaining to select them, but forgetting the spell while it's already active will not disable the bonus damage&mdash;however, changing stances will prevent you from regaining the bonus damage until your memory of that spell improves. Successful hits will cost power equal to the level of the spell&mdash;if you lack enough power, it will not subtract any and nothing will happen. The bonus damage uses the level of the spell to determine the die size, and the hero's skill level in the eldritch style to determine the number of dice rolled: 1 die is used for Basic, 3 dice are used for Skilled, and 6 dice are used for Expert. The table below lists the damage dice used for each spell at each skill level:
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-Elemental damage is applied with the same odds of the hero successfully casting the equivalent spell: a Knight that has a 75% spell failure rate for the finger of death spell while at Expert skill in attack spells has a 25% chance (or {{frac|4}}) of adding +6d13 dark damage on each hit. The skill for attack spells is only checked whenever it would be required to cast the spell at all - this allows the eldritch style to work with [[artifact]]s that reduce the failure rate for casting certain attack spells to 0%.
+Elemental damage is applied with the same odds of the hero successfully casting the equivalent spell: a Knight that has a 75% spell failure rate for the finger of death spell while at Expert skill in attack spells has a 25% chance (or {{frac|4}}) of adding +6d13 dark damage on each hit. The skill for attack spells is only checked whenever it would be required to cast the spell at all&mdash;this allows the eldritch style to work with [[artifact]]s that reduce the failure rate for casting certain attack spells to 0%.
 The damage dealt by [[finger of death]] mimics the effects of the spell itself, dealing damage to anything that isn't an angel, demon, [[Keter Sephiroth]], or otherwise [[nonliving]]. Poison spray & acid splash also cause the weapon to be treated as if it is [[poisoned]] (with acidic poison, for the latter) - this will add the corresponding effects of those poisons, including minor damage, potential for a poison instakill, and '''alignment penalties if used by a lawful Knight'''.

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 ! style="font-size:larger" |Expert
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-|'''Fireball'''<br>(deals [[fire]] damage)
+|'''Fireball'''<br>(deals [[Fire (element)|fire]] damage)
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