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#REDIRECT [[Mimic]]

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 ==Messages==
-{{main|Mimic#Messages}}
+{{main|Mimic#Messages|l1=Mimic-related messages}}
 ==Variants==

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 * A large mimic is generated on the home floor of the [[Rogue quest]] at level creation, and is placed in one of four random locations where the down [[stair]] can appear, with the large mimic disguised as said down stair.
-{{upcoming|3.7.0|Per {{commit|37f6eee147faf3d530112d2cdbb3fe9e699ad57d}}, the "storeroom" [[themed room]] may contain large mimics disguised as [[chest]]s.}}
+{{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|Per {{commit|37f6eee147faf3d530112d2cdbb3fe9e699ad57d}}, the "storeroom" [[themed room]] may contain large mimics disguised as [[chest]]s.}}
 ==Strategy==

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 A large mimic has a single [[Sticking attack|sticking]] [[claw attack]], and possesses [[acid resistance]].
-[[Eating]] a large mimic [[corpse]] or [[tin]] causes the hero to mimic a pile of [[gold]] (or an [[orange]] if [[hallucinating]]) for 40 turns unless they have [[unchanging]], and this polymorph breaks the [[polyselfless]] [[conduct]] and harmlessly dismounts them if they are [[riding]].{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1019|nethack=3.6.7|comment=the cases are designed to fall through and add the amount of turns together}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1024|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1027|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1029|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1031|nethack=3.6.7}} A [[pet]] that eats a large mimic corpse will similarly mimic an item or another monster that they are thinking about for the same amount of turns.{{refsrc|src/dogmove.c|223|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/dogmove.c|350|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/dogmove.c|1338|nethack=3.6.7}} This does not affect the eater's worn [[armor]] or other equipment in either case, and a hero or monster disguised this way will return to normal prematurely if another monster interacts with whatever they are disguised as.
+[[Eating]] a large mimic [[corpse]] or [[tin]] causes the hero to mimic a pile of [[gold]] (or an [[orange]] if [[hallucinating]]) for 40 turns unless they have [[unchanging]], and this polymorph breaks the [[polyselfless]] [[conduct]] and will harmlessly dismount the hero if they are [[riding]].{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1019|nethack=3.6.7|comment=the cases are designed to fall through and add the amount of turns together}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1024|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1027|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1029|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1031|nethack=3.6.7}} A [[pet]] that eats a large mimic corpse will similarly mimic an item or another monster that they are thinking about for the same amount of turns, harmlessly dismounting the hero if that pet is currently serving as a steed.{{refsrc|src/dogmove.c|223|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/dogmove.c|350|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/dogmove.c|1338|nethack=3.6.7}} This does not affect the eater's worn [[armor]] or other equipment in either case, and a hero or monster disguised this way will return to normal prematurely if another monster interacts with whatever they are disguised as.
 ==Generation==

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   |frequency=1
   |genocidable=Yes
-  |attacks=Claw [[sticky]] 3d4
+  |attacks=[[Claw attack|Claw]] 3d4 [[sticky]]
   |weight=600
   |nutr=400
   |size=Large
-  |resistances=Acid
+  |resistances=[[Acid resistance]]
   |resistances conveyed=None
   |attributes={{attributes|A large mimic|cling=1|breathless=1|amorphous=1|hide=1|animal=1|noeyes=1|nohead=1|nolimbs=1|thick=1|carnivore=1|hostile=1}}
-  |reference=[[monst.c#line618]]
+  |reference=[https://github.com/NetHack/NetHack/blob/NetHack-3.6.7_Released/src/monst.c#L575 NetHack 3.6.7 - src/monst.c, line 575]
 }}
-A '''large mimic''', {{monsym|large mimic}}, is a type of [[monster]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. It is a stronger form of [[mimic]] that is capable of [[hiding]] by disguising itself as an appropriate item or dungeon feature, and its sticky body can trap the [[hero]] if they walk into the disguised mimic or the mimic attacks them. A hero in the form of a large mimic can stick to other monsters through the same methods, and can also cloak themselves using the [[Monster (command)|#monster]] [[extended command]].{{refsrc|src/mhitu.c|527|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
+A large mimic has a single [[Sticking attack|sticking]] [[claw attack]], and possesses [[acid resistance]].
-A large mimic has a single [[Sticking attack|sticking claw attack]], and possesses [[acid resistance]].
+[[Eating]] a large mimic [[corpse]] or [[tin]] causes the hero to mimic a pile of [[gold]] (or an [[orange]] if [[hallucinating]]) for 40 turns unless they have [[unchanging]], and this polymorph breaks the [[polyselfless]] [[conduct]] and harmlessly dismounts them if they are [[riding]].{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1019|nethack=3.6.7|comment=the cases are designed to fall through and add the amount of turns together}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1024|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1027|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1029|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1031|nethack=3.6.7}} A [[pet]] that eats a large mimic corpse will similarly mimic an item or another monster that they are thinking about for the same amount of turns.{{refsrc|src/dogmove.c|223|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/dogmove.c|350|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/dogmove.c|1338|nethack=3.6.7}} This does not affect the eater's worn [[armor]] or other equipment in either case, and a hero or monster disguised this way will return to normal prematurely if another monster interacts with whatever they are disguised as.
 ==Generation==
-{{main|Mimic#Generation}}
+{{main|Mimic#Generation|l1=Mimic generation}}
 Randomly generated large mimics are always created hostile. A large mimic that is randomly generated will appear disguised as an appropriate item or dungeon feature for that square. A [[small mimic]] can [[grow up]] into a large mimic, and a large mimic can grow up into a [[giant mimic]].
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 ==Strategy==
-{{main|Mimic#Strategy}}
+{{main|Mimic#Strategy|l1=Common mimic strategies}}
 Large mimics are very slow at 3 [[speed]], but hit quite hard for an early-game hero, resulting in death if they carelessly bump into one while shopping or else underestimate the power of their claw attacks. A large mimic that successfully sticks to an early game hero will likely kill them in short order unless the hero can get loose in time.
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 The large mimic first appears in [[NetHack 3.0.0]].
-In [[NetHack 3.4.3]] and earlier versions, including some variants based on those versions, the speed system functions differently: the hero and monsters all move at a consistent rate, meaning that an unhasted and unburdened hero always gets four moves to the mimic's one. This allows for '[[hit and run]]' tactics that can consistently and reliably dispose of mimics with enough care: characters with relatively high starting HP and [[AC]] can attack them more safely, and with skilled play even weaker roles can defeat mimics this way while avoiding damage.
+From NetHack 3.0.0 to [[NetHack 3.4.3]], including some variants based on these versions, the speed system functions differently: the hero and monsters all move at a consistent rate, meaning that an unhasted and unburdened hero always gets four moves to the mimic's one. This allows for '[[hit and run]]' tactics that can consistently and reliably dispose of mimics with enough care: characters with relatively high starting HP and [[AC]] can attack them more safely, and with skilled play even weaker roles can defeat mimics this way while avoiding damage. [[NetHack 3.6.0]] changes the speed system, making hit and run tactics more risky and less consistent.
 In those same versions, shapeshifting from eating a large mimic corpse or tin does not break polyselfless conduct&mdash;this is changed in [[NetHack 3.6.0]] via {{commit|0f0a85d0bd0716b6c33921410f7c4b7e1bf55303}} so that eating a mimic corpse or tin breaks the conduct.
-In NetHack 3.6.0 and earlier versions, including some variants based on those versions, an [[umber hulk]]'s [[gaze attack]] will not uncloak large mimics that it targets&mdash;this is fixed in [[NetHack 3.6.1]] via {{commit|b5a027c3fedbfef1c8abad4ffe3dd249ae0d79bb}}.
+From NetHack 3.0.0 to NetHack 3.6.0 and earlier versions, including some variants based on these versions, an [[umber hulk]]'s [[gaze attack]] will not uncloak large mimics that it targets&mdash;this is fixed in [[NetHack 3.6.1]] via {{commit|b5a027c3fedbfef1c8abad4ffe3dd249ae0d79bb}}.
 ==Messages==
 {{main|Mimic#Messages}}
 ==Encyclopedia entry==

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 }}
-A '''large mimic''', {{monsym|large mimic}}, is a type of [[monster]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. It is a stronger form of [[mimic]] that is capable of [[hiding]] by disguising itself as an item or dungeon feature, and its sticky body can trap the [[hero]] if they walk into the disguised mimic or the mimic attacks them. A hero in the form of a large mimic can stick to other monsters through the same methods, and can also cloak themselves using the [[Monster (command)|#monster]] [[extended command]].{{refsrc|src/mhitu.c|527|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
+A '''large mimic''', {{monsym|large mimic}}, is a type of [[monster]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. It is a stronger form of [[mimic]] that is capable of [[hiding]] by disguising itself as an appropriate item or dungeon feature, and its sticky body can trap the [[hero]] if they walk into the disguised mimic or the mimic attacks them. A hero in the form of a large mimic can stick to other monsters through the same methods, and can also cloak themselves using the [[Monster (command)|#monster]] [[extended command]].{{refsrc|src/mhitu.c|527|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
 A large mimic has a single [[Sticking attack|sticking claw attack]], and possesses [[acid resistance]].
-[[Eating]] a large mimic [[corpse]] or [[tin]] causes the hero to mimic a pile of [[gold]] (or an [[orange]] if [[hallucinating]]) for 40 turns unless they have [[unchanging]], which dismounts them if they are [[riding]] and breaks the [[polyselfless]] [[conduct]].{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1019|nethack=3.6.7|comment=the cases are designed to fall through and add the amount of turns together}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1024|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1027|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1029|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1031|nethack=3.6.7}} A [[pet]] that eats a large mimic corpse will similarly mimic an item or another monster that they are thinking about for the same amount of turns.{{refsrc|src/dogmove.c|223|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/dogmove.c|350|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/dogmove.c|1338|nethack=3.6.7}} This does not affect armor or worn items in either case, and a hero or pet disguised this way will return to normal prematurely if another monster interacts with the item they are disguised as.
+[[Eating]] a large mimic [[corpse]] or [[tin]] causes the hero to mimic a pile of [[gold]] (or an [[orange]] if [[hallucinating]]) for 40 turns unless they have [[unchanging]], which dismounts them if they are [[riding]] and breaks the [[polyselfless]] [[conduct]].{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1019|nethack=3.6.7|comment=the cases are designed to fall through and add the amount of turns together}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1024|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1027|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1029|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1031|nethack=3.6.7}} A [[pet]] that eats a large mimic corpse will similarly mimic an item or another monster that they are thinking about for the same amount of turns.{{refsrc|src/dogmove.c|223|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/dogmove.c|350|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/dogmove.c|1338|nethack=3.6.7}} This does not affect armor or worn items in either case, and a hero or pet disguised this way will return to normal prematurely if another monster interacts with whatever they are disguised as.
 ==Generation==
 {{main|Mimic#Generation}}
-Randomly generated large mimics are always created hostile. A large mimic that is randomly generated will appear disguised as an appropriate item or dungeon feature. A [[small mimic]] can [[grow up]] into a large mimic, and a large mimic can grow up into a [[giant mimic]].
+Randomly generated large mimics are always created hostile. A large mimic that is randomly generated will appear disguised as an appropriate item or dungeon feature for that square. A [[small mimic]] can [[grow up]] into a large mimic, and a large mimic can grow up into a [[giant mimic]].
 In addition to random generation, large mimics can be generated in the following circumstances:

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		+	\|difficulty=9
		+	\|level=8
		+	\|experience=113
		+	\|speed=3
		+	\|AC=7
		+	\|MR=10
		+	\|align=0
		+	\|frequency=1
		+	\|genocidable=Yes
		+	\|attacks=Claw [[sticky]] 3d4
		+	\|weight=600
		+	\|nutr=400
		+	\|size=Large
		+	\|resistances=Acid
		+	\|resistances conveyed=None
		+	\|attributes={{attributes\|A large mimic\|cling=1\|breathless=1\|amorphous=1\|hide=1\|animal=1\|noeyes=1\|nohead=1\|nolimbs=1\|thick=1\|carnivore=1\|hostile=1}}
		+	\|reference=[[monst.c#line618]]
		+	}}
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		+	A '''large mimic''', {{monsym\|large mimic}}, is a type of [[monster]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. It is a stronger form of [[mimic]] that is capable of [[hiding]] by disguising itself as an item or dungeon feature, and its sticky body can trap the [[hero]] if they walk into the disguised mimic or the mimic attacks them.
		+
		+	A large mimic has a single [[Sticking attack\|sticking claw attack]], and possesses [[acid resistance]].
		+
		+	[[Eating]] a large mimic [[corpse]] or [[tin]] causes the [[hero]] to mimic a pile of [[gold]] (or an [[orange]] if [[hallucinating]]) for 20 turns unless they have [[unchanging]], which dismounts them if they are [[riding]] and breaks the [[polyselfless]] [[conduct]].{{refsrc\|src/eat.c\|1019\|nethack=3.6.7\|comment=the cases are designed to fall through and add the amount of turns together}}{{refsrc\|src/eat.c\|1024\|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc\|src/eat.c\|1027\|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc\|src/eat.c\|1029\|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc\|src/eat.c\|1031\|nethack=3.6.7}} A [[pet]] that eats a large mimic corpse will similarly mimic an item or another monster that they are thinking about for 40 turns.{{refsrc\|src/dogmove.c\|223\|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc\|src/dogmove.c\|350\|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc\|src/dogmove.c\|1338\|nethack=3.6.7}} This does not affect armor or worn items in either case, and a hero or pet disguised this way will return to normal prematurely if another monster interacts with the item they are disguised as.
		+
		+	==Generation==
		+	{{main\|Mimic#Generation}}
		+	Randomly generated large mimics are always created hostile. A large mimic that is randomly generated will appear disguised as an appropriate item or dungeon feature.
		+
		+	In addition to random generation, large mimics can be generated in the following circumstances:
		+
		+	* Large mimics may be generated in [[shop]]s at level creation.{{refsrc\|src/shknam.c\|471\|nethack=3.6.7}} A large mimic created in a shop on dungeon level 9 or higher has a 10 × (10 - DL)% chance of appearing as a [[strange object]], and otherwise has a {{frac\|2\|17}} chance of appearing as a strange object.
		+	* When entering a new dungeon floor while the [[level difficulty]] is 9 or higher, there is a chance of a large mimic disguised as a closed door being created in a doorway, rather than an actual door.{{refsrc\|src/mklev.c\|425\|nethack=3.6.7}}
		+	* A large mimic may appear among the four mimics generated on The Mimic of the Mines map of [[Mines' End]] at level creation.
		+	* A large mimic is generated on the home floor of the [[Rogue quest]] at level creation, and is placed in one of four random locations where the down [[stair]] can appear, with the large mimic disguised as said down stair.
		+
		+	{{upcoming\|3.7.0\|Per {{commit\|37f6eee147faf3d530112d2cdbb3fe9e699ad57d}}, the "storeroom" [[themed room]] may contain large mimics disguised as [[chest]]s.}}
		+
		+	==Strategy==
		+	{{main\|Mimic#Strategy}}
		+	Large mimics are very slow at 3 [[speed]], but hit quite hard for an early-game hero, resulting in death if they carelessly bump into one while shopping or else underestimate the power of their claw attacks. Additionally, a large mimic that successfully sticks to an early game hero will likely kill them in short order unless the hero can get loose in time.
		+
		+	Thankfully, the large mimic's low speed can be exploited with most [[ranged attack]]s, and attentive players can spot shop mimics that are disguised as strange objects or else imitating items that are not normally sold in that type of shop. To safely uncloak a mimic in a shop, a hero can throw a single gold piece (via {{kbd\|t\|1\|$}}) down the row or column where they suspect it to be: the gold will be added to store credit and can be picked up later without any trouble. Be sure not to anger the [[shopkeeper]] by hitting them with the coin! Properties such as [[warning]] and [[telepathy]] can also reliably detect potential mimics—the article section linked at the top of this section lists other methods of safely uncloaking and fighting mimics.
		+
		+	If a hero ends up stuck to a large mimic, they can [[scare]] it into letting them go e.g. by [[engraving]] [[Elbereth]], which they should have several chances to write successfully due to the mimic's low speed. Once Elbereth is correctly engraved (which you can confirm by [[near look]]ing with {{kbd\|:}}), rest with {{kbd\|.}} until the mimic flees to avoid smudging it; remember that the hero cannot go down a [[hole]] or use stairs while stuck. Scaring tools and other similar items can also scare a mimic into letting go of a hero stuck to it.
		+
		+	If fighting a large mimic in a shop, certain ranged attacks may not be safe: thrown [[projectile]]s will become the shop's property if the shop buys or sells the weapon in question, and the [[wand of striking]] and {{+ of\|force bolt}} spells can break [[fragile]] items in their path; additionally, using ray-type wands or spells can risk the shopkeeper being hit by the rebound, depending on the shop size.
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		+	Due to the high amount of experience that large mimics can give, it is recommended for an early hero to be at [[experience level]] 3 or higher before dispatching one to maximize their experience gain.
		+
		+	==History==
		+	The large mimic first appears in [[NetHack 3.0.0]].
		+
		+	In [[NetHack 3.4.3]] and earlier versions, including some variants based on those versions, the speed system functions differently: the hero and monsters all move at a consistent rate, meaning that an unhasted and unburdened hero character always gets four moves to the mimic's one. This allows for '[[hit and run]]' tactics that can consistently and reliably dispose of mimics with enough care: characters with relatively high starting HP and [[AC]] can attack them more safely, and with skilled play even weaker roles can defeat mimics this way while avoiding damage.
		+
		+	In those same versions, shapeshifting from eating a large mimic corpse or tin does not break polyselfless conduct—this is changed in [[NetHack 3.6.0]] via {{commit\|0f0a85d0bd0716b6c33921410f7c4b7e1bf55303}} so that eating a mimic corpse or tin breaks the conduct.
		+
		+	In NetHack 3.6.0 and earlier versions, including some variants based on those versions, an [[umber hulk]]'s [[gaze attack]] will not uncloak large mimics that it targets—this is fixed in [[NetHack 3.6.1]] via {{commit\|b5a027c3fedbfef1c8abad4ffe3dd249ae0d79bb}}.
		+
		+	==Messages==
		+	{{main\|Mimic#Messages}}
		+
		+	==Encyclopedia entry==
		+	{{encyclopedia-redirect\|mimic}}
		+
		+	==References==
		+	<references/>
		+	{{nethack-367}}
		+	[[Category:Monsters]]

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