Lightsaber - Revision history

Furey: Put an offset on one of the version badges (slashem-7E7)

2024-06-29T09:49:55Z

Put an offset on one of the version badges (slashem-7E7)

Furey: SLASH'EM -> Source:SLASH'EM

2024-06-29T09:48:38Z

SLASH'EM -> Source:SLASH'EM

ScienceBall: /* Lightsabers */ Fix infobox to mention saber skill (the prose was already correct). Fix Annulus link.

2024-02-27T14:40:40Z

‎Lightsabers: Fix infobox to mention saber skill (the prose was already correct). Fix Annulus link.

Umbire the Phantom: /* dNetHack */ potholes 'n' lil' stuff

2024-01-05T07:25:22Z

‎dNetHack: potholes 'n' lil' stuff

Noisytoot: platinum does have extra damage effects in dnethack (extra damage to chaotics) and double lightsabers use different skills depending on how many blades are lit

2023-12-27T21:58:29Z

platinum does have extra damage effects in dnethack (extra damage to chaotics) and double lightsabers use different skills depending on how many blades are lit

ScienceBall: /* dNetHack */ Typos

2023-11-17T07:48:00Z

‎dNetHack: Typos

Noisytoot: They also have +1 to-hit

2023-10-07T12:36:08Z

They also have +1 to-hit

Noisytoot: Kamerel vajra weigh 10 aum and do 1d4/1d4+1 damage when unlit (as a small mace)

2023-10-07T12:31:51Z

Kamerel vajra weigh 10 aum and do 1d4/1d4+1 damage when unlit (as a small mace)

EasterlyIrk: lightsaber forms page has been moved

2023-08-31T15:16:39Z

lightsaber forms page has been moved

Ion frigate: Give general monster case

2023-07-19T00:12:54Z

Give general monster case

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 {{clear}}
-{{slashem-7E7}}
+{{slashem-7E7|offset=1}}
 {{variant-343}}
 [[Category:SLASH'EM items]]
 [[Category:dNethack Items]]

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 Double red lightsabers are not randomly generated, but can be wished for.  They are two-handed, have a -4 to-hit penalty, and do an extra d9 damage against small monsters and d11 against large monsters (beyond the damage for a basic red lightsaber) when in double mode.
-From [[SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2/objects.c#line825]]:
+From [[Source:SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2/objects.c#line825]]:
 {|class="wikitable"

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   |largedmg=1d8
   |tohit=<nowiki>-3</nowiki>
-  |skill=broadsword
+  |skill=saber
   |cost=500
   |weight=10
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 '''Artifact lightsaber'''
-The [[Annulus]] can be shifted into the form of a lightsaber, and this is the mode in which it is typically used.  While in this form, the Annulus can be applied a second time to ignite a second blade, making it a 6x overall weapon (though, the second blade is smaller and deals only 3d3+3xEnchantment damage).
+[[The Annulus]] can be shifted into the form of a lightsaber, and this is the mode in which it is typically used.  While in this form, the Annulus can be applied a second time to ignite a second blade, making it a 6x overall weapon (though, the second blade is smaller and deals only 3d3+3xEnchantment damage).
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 The variant dNetHack also features lightsabers, which behave somewhat differently. dNethack has a variety of lightsaber types, including basic lightsabers, beamswords, double lightsabers, and Kamerel vajra.
-All lightsabers must be lit to be fully effective.  While lit, most lightsabers are 3x damage melee weapons (surpassing almost all artifacts in terms of damage output), though vajra and some artifact lightsabers may be less powerful.  Lit lightsabers [[Shatter|sunder]] any weapon held by the target, and ignore equipped armor.  Lit lightsabers can cut through many terrain obstructions, included [[iron bar]]s, [[tree]]s, and [[drawbridge]]s (make sure to stand off to one side if using a lightsaber to cut through a drawbridge!).  Use #force and a direction to do so.  Notably, lightsabers are unable to cut through [[solid rock]] squares.  Finally, lit lightsabers allow you to escape from webs and beartraps without wasting a turn, and free you from pit traps while consuming only a single turn.
+All lightsabers must be lit to be fully effective.  While lit, most lightsabers are 3x damage melee weapons (surpassing almost all artifacts in terms of damage output), though vajra and some artifact lightsabers may be less powerful.  Lit lightsabers [[Shatter|sunder]] any weapon held by the target, and ignore equipped armor. Lit lightsabers can cut through many terrain obstructions, including [[iron bars]] (which will leave behind one or more of [[Iron bar|the bars]] as items), [[tree]]s, and [[drawbridge]]s. (Make sure to stand off to one side if using a lightsaber to cut through a drawbridge!) Use #force and a direction to do so. Notably, lightsabers are unable to cut through [[solid rock]] squares. Finally, lit lightsabers allow you to escape from webs and beartraps without wasting a turn, and free you from pit traps while consuming only a single turn.
 Falling down stairs while wielding a lit lightsaber is dangerous.  The character will attempt to switch off the lightsaber before coming into contact with it, with a luck and dex based chance of succeeding (Note that vajra and some artifact lightsabers can't be switched off!).  If the character does come into contact with the lightsaber, they take damage as if they had been struck by the saber.

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 Double lightsabers also exist, and three of these are guaranteed in any Anachrononaut game.  One is placed on the locate level, one is placed on the goal level, and one on every lower filler level.
-Double lightsabers are two-handed weapons using the quarterstaff skill.  They must be activated via [[apply]], and can be activated a second time to ignite a second blade (a third apply deactivates both blades).  They deal 1d10 damage base to both small and large targets, and thus deal 3d10+3xEnchantment ''per blade'' (i.e., 6d10+6xEnchantment with both blades lit).
+Double lightsabers are two-handed weapons using the two-handed sword (with one blade lit) or quarterstaff (with two blades lit) skill.  They must be activated via [[apply]], and can be activated a second time to ignite a second blade (a third apply deactivates both blades).  They deal 1d10 damage base to both small and large targets, and thus deal 3d10+3xEnchantment ''per blade'' (i.e., 6d10+6xEnchantment with both blades lit).
-When unlit, double lightsaber hilts can be used as a martial-arts aid.  They deal 1d4+Enchantment damage to small and large targets, modified by your unarmed fighting/martial arts skill bonus.  Note that this is inferior to the damage provided by dedicated martial-arts artifacts.  Most double lightsaber hilts are made from platinum, which doesn't have any special damage effects.
+When unlit, double lightsaber hilts can be used as a martial-arts aid.  They deal 1d4+Enchantment damage to small and large targets, modified by your unarmed fighting/martial arts skill bonus.  Note that this is inferior to the damage provided by dedicated martial-arts artifacts.  Most double lightsaber hilts are made from platinum, which deals extra damage to chaotics.
 '''Artifact double lightsaber'''

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 Lightsabers are charged weapons and will eventually run out of power.  They can be re-charged an unlimited number of times.  A single charging is good for 750 hits, or 1500 hits if blessed charging was used.  Just being lit also consumes charge, but at a much reduced rate.  100 turns of being lit consumes as much charge as a single hit.  Other activities consume charge as fast as combat.
-Finally, there are special skills related to the propper use of lightsabers.  See the [[Lightsaber Forms (dNetHack)|lightsaber forms]] page for details.
+Finally, there are special skills related to the proper use of lightsabers.  See the [[Lightsaber Forms (dNetHack)|lightsaber forms]] page for details.
 === Lightsaber Colors ===
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 Lightsabers are one-handed weapons using the saber skill.  Lightsabers must be activated via [[apply]].  A lit lightsaber has a base damage of 1d8 to large and small targets, and therefore does 3d8 + 3xEnchantment damage on a hit.
-When unlit, lightsaber hilts can be used as a martial-arts aid.  They deal 1d4+Enchantment damage to small and large targets, modifed by your unarmed fighting/martial arts skill bonus.  Note that this is inferior to the damage provided by dedicated martial-arts artifacts.  Most lightsaber hilts are silver, and so add the usual +1d20 silver damage vs. silver-hating targets.
+When unlit, lightsaber hilts can be used as a martial-arts aid.  They deal 1d4+Enchantment damage to small and large targets, modified by your unarmed fighting/martial arts skill bonus.  Note that this is inferior to the damage provided by dedicated martial-arts artifacts.  Most lightsaber hilts are silver, and so add the usual +1d20 silver damage vs. silver-hating targets.
 '''Artifact lightsaber'''
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 Double lightsabers are two-handed weapons using the quarterstaff skill.  They must be activated via [[apply]], and can be activated a second time to ignite a second blade (a third apply deactivates both blades).  They deal 1d10 damage base to both small and large targets, and thus deal 3d10+3xEnchantment ''per blade'' (i.e., 6d10+6xEnchantment with both blades lit).
-When unlit, double lightsaber hilts can be used as a martial-arts aid.  They deal 1d4+Enchantment damage to small and large targets, modifed by your unarmed fighting/martial arts skill bonus.  Note that this is inferior to the damage provided by dedicated martial-arts artifacts.  Most double lightsaber hilts are made from platinum, which doesn't have any special damage effects.
+When unlit, double lightsaber hilts can be used as a martial-arts aid.  They deal 1d4+Enchantment damage to small and large targets, modified by your unarmed fighting/martial arts skill bonus.  Note that this is inferior to the damage provided by dedicated martial-arts artifacts.  Most double lightsaber hilts are made from platinum, which doesn't have any special damage effects.
 '''Artifact double lightsaber'''

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   |smalldmg=1d6
   |largedmg=1d6
   |skill=mace
   |cost=800

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   |skill=mace
   |cost=800
-  |weight=20
+  |weight=10
   |material=gold
 }}
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 If wielded by another creature, but while there is an Ara Kamerel present on the level (incarnate or unincarnate), a Kamerel Vajra is a 2x weapon and deals and additional 2d6 electrical damage (damaging wands 1/3rd of the time), for 4d6 + 2xEnchantment damage total vs. non-shock resistant targets and 2d6+2xEnchantment damage vs. shock resistant targets.  The target is still blinded for 1d50 turns.  In this case, the Kamerel Vajra counts as a lit lightsaber, and can be used with [[Lightsaber Forms (dNetHack)|lightsaber fighting forms]] (note that the player character never counts as an Ara Kamerel, and thus can't use vajras at full power).
-If wielded by another creature without an Ara Kamerel on the level, a vajra is a 1d6 damage mace, dealing 1d6+Enchantment damage to large targets and 1d6+1+Enchantment damage to small ones.
+If wielded by another creature without an Ara Kamerel on the level, a vajra is a 1d4 damage mace (equivalent to a small mace), dealing 1d4+Enchantment damage to large targets and 1d4+1+Enchantment damage to small ones.
 There are no artifact vajra.

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 '''Lightsabers''' are [[weapon-tool]]s found in the variants [[SLASH'EM]] and [[dNetHack]].  In each variant they are powerful [[melee]] weapons whose use is highly restricted.
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 Lightsabers are charged weapons and will eventually run out of power.  They can be re-charged an unlimited number of times.  A single charging is good for 750 hits, or 1500 hits if blessed charging was used.  Just being lit also consumes charge, but at a much reduced rate.  100 turns of being lit consumes as much charge as a single hit.  Other activities consume charge as fast as combat.
-Finally, there are special skills related to the propper use of lightsabers.  See the [[User:Chris/dNethack/Lightsaber_Forms|lightsaber forms]] page for details.
+Finally, there are special skills related to the propper use of lightsabers.  See the [[Lightsaber Forms (dNetHack)|lightsaber forms]] page for details.
 === Lightsaber Colors ===
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 If wielded by an [[Ara Kamerel]], a Kamerel Vajra is a 3x weapon and deals an additional 6d6 electrical damage (damaging wands as normal for electrical damage), for 9d6 + 3xEnchantment damage total vs. non-shock resistant targets and 3d6+3xEnchantment damage vs. shock resistant targets.  Additionally, the target is blinded for 1d50 turns.
-If wielded by another creature, but while there is an Ara Kamerel present on the level (incarnate or unincarnate), a Kamerel Vajra is a 2x weapon and deals and additional 2d6 electrical damage (damaging wands 1/3rd of the time), for 4d6 + 2xEnchantment damage total vs. non-shock resistant targets and 2d6+2xEnchantment damage vs. shock resistant targets.  The target is still blinded for 1d50 turns.  In this case, the Kamerel Vajra counts as a lit lightsaber, and can be used with [[User:Chris/dNethack/Lightsaber Forms|lightsaber fighting forms]] (note that the player character never counts as an Ara Kamerel, and thus can't use vajras at full power).
+If wielded by another creature, but while there is an Ara Kamerel present on the level (incarnate or unincarnate), a Kamerel Vajra is a 2x weapon and deals and additional 2d6 electrical damage (damaging wands 1/3rd of the time), for 4d6 + 2xEnchantment damage total vs. non-shock resistant targets and 2d6+2xEnchantment damage vs. shock resistant targets.  The target is still blinded for 1d50 turns.  In this case, the Kamerel Vajra counts as a lit lightsaber, and can be used with [[Lightsaber Forms (dNetHack)|lightsaber fighting forms]] (note that the player character never counts as an Ara Kamerel, and thus can't use vajras at full power).
 If wielded by another creature without an Ara Kamerel on the level, a vajra is a 1d6 damage mace, dealing 1d6+Enchantment damage to large targets and 1d6+1+Enchantment damage to small ones.

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 * Digging downwards will create a [[hole]] without first creating a [[pit]].  Digging up graves or digging downwards on [[undiggable]] levels will instead produce a pit.
 * #Forcing a lit lightsaber towards a locked container will attempt to force the container open.  This behaves like a blunt weapon, having a chance of destroying the container and its contents.
-* "Digging" towards a shopkeeper will produce [[YAFM]] without angering them.
+* "Digging" towards a monster merely produces the message "I don't think <monster> would appreciate that", rather than attacking them.
 Note that digging with a lightsaber takes a considerable amount of time, consuming power.  Pre-quest, most Jedi will still prefer to use a pick-axe for digging, in order to ensure their saber is sufficiently charged for dangerous fights and engraving Elbereth.  Once they have the eternally-charged [[Lightsaber Prototype]], they can drop their pick-axe to save weight.