Manes - Revision history

Umbire the Phantom: /* Variants */ xnh

2024-02-17T06:57:03Z

‎Variants: xnh

Umbire the Phantom: /* Variants */ necro

2024-02-17T06:33:26Z

‎Variants: necro

Umbire the Phantom: touch-ups

2024-02-16T21:37:10Z

touch-ups

Umbire the Phantom: /* SLASH'EM */ THEM

2024-02-16T13:27:58Z

‎SLASH'EM: THEM

Umbire the Phantom: origin + var - it's not that they're difficult to tame in particular, it's that you're not likely to have taming resources early on (but also there's no point anyway)

2024-02-16T13:25:43Z

origin + var - it's not that they're difficult to tame in particular, it's that you're not likely to have taming resources early on (but also there's no point anyway)

Umbire the Phantom: formatting + copyedit pass

2024-02-16T11:54:13Z

formatting + copyedit pass

Netzhack: /* Encyclopedia entry */ line break

2023-10-20T12:42:49Z

‎Encyclopedia entry: line break

Ion frigate: apart from MR_HITASONE they're the same

2023-09-05T06:03:47Z

apart from MR_HITASONE they're the same

Tomsod: mention nonliving

2023-07-18T10:57:49Z

mention nonliving

Umbire the Phantom at 11:21, 25 January 2020

2020-01-25T11:21:35Z

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 ===NetHack Fourk===
 In [[NetHack Fourk]], the manes is moved to the [[Wraith (monster class)|wraith]] monster class at {{red|W}}.
 ==Encyclopedia entry==

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 ==Variants==
 ===SLASH'EM===
-In [[SLASH'EM]], manes [[hits creatures as +x weapon|hit as a +1 weapon]] but are otherwise unchanged, making little difference (if any) for dealing with them in practice - as SLASH'EM is based on [[NetHack 3.4.3]], a starting character can comfortably use [[hit and run]] tactics against manes swarms. This also applies to [[SlashTHEM]].
+In [[SLASH'EM]], manes [[hits creatures as +x weapon|hit as a +1 weapon]] but are otherwise unchanged, making little difference (if any) for dealing with them in practice - as SLASH'EM is based on [[NetHack 3.4.3]], a starting character can comfortably use [[hit and run]] tactics against manes swarms.
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 Manes are differentiated from other types of Roman spirits by the writings of the theologian [[Wikipedia:Augustine of Hippo|St. Augustine]], and in ''City of God'' he cites Latin-language prose writer Apuleius as saying "that the souls of men are demons [in the sense of "familiar spirits"], and that men become[...]Manes if it is uncertain whether they deserve well or ill". Roman tombstones often included the letters D.M., which stood for ''Dis Manibus'' - this can literally mean "to the Manes", or figuratively mean "to the spirits of the dead", and continued to appear even in some later Christian inscriptions. The Manes were honored during public festivals such as the Parentalia and Feralia in February, and it is speculated that the gladiatorial games, originally held at funerals, may have been instituted in the honor of the Manes.
-The manes of ''[[Dungeons & Dragons]]'', also known singularly as a mane, is a dead soul that was chaotic evil in life and sent to the Abyss, where they are transformed. Manes appear as three-foot humanoids with pale, bloated and maggot-ridden bodies and eyes that constantly drip liquid: the transformation robbed most of these souls of their memories, leaving only a persistently vague sense of loss and the resulting bitter rage; only a rare few manes retained even fragmented memories of their mortal lives. This also leaves the manes semi-intelligent and practically feral beings, driven entirely by hatefulness: they wander the Abyss in swarms of a dozen and hords of up to a hundred, attacking non-demonic entities with their jagged teeth and claws.
+The manes of ''[[Dungeons & Dragons]]'', also known singularly as a mane, makes its debut in the 1st Edition Monster Manual as a dead soul that was chaotic evil in life and sent to the Abyss. Manes appear as three-foot humanoids with pale, bloated and maggot-ridden bodies, and their eyes constantly drip liquids: the transformation into this wretched form robs most of these souls of their memories, leaving only a persistently vague sense of loss and the resulting bitter rage; only a rare few manes retained even fragmented memories of their mortal lives. This also leaves the manes as semi-intelligent and practically feral beings, driven entirely by hatefulness: they wander the Abyss in swarms of a dozen and hordes of up to a hundred, attacking non-demonic entities with their jagged teeth and claws.
-Manes are considered "sub-demon" entities and expendable cannon fodder by other demons, and are treated as literal "fodder" for demon lords and princes, who consumed them as a food source (which would erase the manes permanently). The forces of the Abyss may transform a manes into another demon at random, and those showing a glimmer of intellect or a particular cruelty may be manually promoted into higher-ranked demons or other beings depending on the promotee - they were are just as likely to be culled in order to prevent the upending Abyssal society by a transformed manes potentially rising to the status of demon lord.
+Manes are considered "sub-demon" entities and expendable cannon fodder by other demons, and are treated as literal "fodder" for demon lords and princes, who consumed them as a food source (which would erase the manes permanently) - a few manes occasionally gained the self-awareness needed to recognize their position in the Abyss and fight to improve it, which rarely ended in success. The forces within the Abyss may transform a manes into another demon at random, and those showing a glimmer of intellect or a particular cruelty may be manually promoted into higher-ranked demons or other beings depending on the promotee - they were are just as likely to be culled in order to prevent the upending Abyssal society by a transformed manes potentially rising to the status of demon lord.
 ==Variants==

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 ==Variants==
 ===SLASH'EM===
-In [[SLASH'EM]], manes [[hits creatures as +x weapon|hit as a +1 weapon]] but are otherwise unchanged, making little difference (if any) for dealing with them in practice - as SLASH'EM is based on [[NetHack 3.4.3]], a character can comfortably use [[hit and run]] tactics against manes swarms.
+In [[SLASH'EM]], manes [[hits creatures as +x weapon|hit as a +1 weapon]] but are otherwise unchanged, making little difference (if any) for dealing with them in practice - as SLASH'EM is based on [[NetHack 3.4.3]], a starting character can comfortably use [[hit and run]] tactics against manes swarms. This also applies to [[SlashTHEM]].
 ===dNetHack===

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 ==Generation==
-Randomly-generated manes are always created hostile, and frequently appear in large [[group]]s. A manes can [[grow up]] into a [[lemure]].{{refsrc|mondata.c|607}}
+Randomly-generated manes are always created hostile, and frequently appear in large [[group]]s. A manes can [[grow up]] into a [[lemure]].{{refsrc|src/mondata.c|1014|nethack=3.6.7}}
 Manes appear among the random {{white|i}} that are part of the first [[quest]] [[monster class]] for [[Knight]]s and make up {{frac|24|175}} of the monsters that are randomly generated on the [[Knight quest]]. They also appear among the random {{white|i}} that are generated on each floor of the [[Wizard quest]] at level creation.
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 ==History==
-The manes first appears in [[NetHack 3.0.0]]
+The manes first appears in [[NetHack 3.0.0]].
 ==Origin==
 {{wikipedia|Manes}}
-Manes (MAH-nays) are the spirits of the dead in Roman mythology - the word ''manes'' is Latin, and has a singular form ''manis'' that is not used for the meaning specific to these spirits<ref>[http://lysy2.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/words.exe?manes WORDS Latin-English dictionary]</ref> - in English, the word has no singular, and so NetHack just uses ''manes'' for the singular as well. Compare ''[[lemure]]''.
+In Roman mythologhy, Manes (MAH-nays) are chthonic deities sometimes thought to represent souls of deceased loved ones, and were associated with other similar beings worshiped in domestic, local, and personal [[Wikipedia:Cult (religious practice)|cults]] as part of the ''[[Wikipedia:Di inferi|di inferi]]'' (Latin "those who dwell below"), the undifferentiated collective of divine dead. The word ''manes'' is Latin, and has a singular form ''manis'' that is not used for the meaning specific to these spirits<ref>[http://lysy2.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/words.exe?manes WORDS Latin-English dictionary]</ref> - in English, the word has no singular, and so NetHack just uses ''manes'' for the singular as well.
 ==Variants==
 ===SLASH'EM===
-In [[SLASH'EM]], manes [[hits creatures as +x weapon|hit as a +1 weapon]] but are otherwise unchanged.  This property could theoretically make them useful pets for hitting [[need +x weapon to hit|monsters with the opposite property]], but the difficulty of taming them combined with their slow speed means that even [[pacifist]]s will likely look for better options.
+In [[SLASH'EM]], manes [[hits creatures as +x weapon|hit as a +1 weapon]] but are otherwise unchanged, making little difference (if any) for dealing with them in practice - as SLASH'EM is based on [[NetHack 3.4.3]], a character can comfortably use [[hit and run]] tactics against manes swarms.
 ==Encyclopedia entry==

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-The '''manes''', {{monsym|manes}}, is a [[minor demon]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''.  It is considered [[nonliving]], but not [[undead]].  Manes can [[grow up]] to become [[lemure]]s{{refsrc|mondata.c|607}}.
+A '''manes''', {{monsym|manes}}, is a type of [[monster]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. The manes is a [[nonliving]] monster that is the most basic form of [[minor demon]] a [[player]] character can encounter. A manes has [[infravision]], can be seen via infravision and will follow you to other levels if it is adjacent.
 ==Generation==
-Manes are frequently generated in large [[groups]].
+Randomly-generated manes are always created hostile, and frequently appear in large [[group]]s. A manes can [[grow up]] into a [[lemure]].{{refsrc|mondata.c|607}}
 ==Strategy==
-Manes are very weak and [[speed|slow]], although their three attacks are more than their ostensibly more difficult relative, the lemure. Individually, they are usually very easy to defeat for all but the weakest of characters; however, swarms of them can overwhelm weaker characters since their three attacks can hit for up to 10 HP total per manes.
+Manes are described as "the gnats of the dungeon" in their [[encyclopedia]] entry for good reason: they are very weak individually and move at a sluggish 3 [[speed]], though their attacks can pile up damage against early characters with low [[HP]] or [[AC]], since they can roll upwards of 10 damage per round of attacks. This makes swarms of manes potentially deadly if a character is careless and/or gets overwhelmed by the speed system not distributing actions in their favor.
-These will likely be the first set of monsters where getting into a [[corridor]] or [[door]] is employed as a tactic; this prevents more than one of them from approaching at a time, making dispatching them much easier.
+==History==
 ==Origin==
-In Roman mythology, [[wikipedia:Manes|manes]] (MAH-nays) are the spirits of the dead. The word ''manes'' is Latin, and has a singular form, ''manis'',<ref>[http://lysy2.archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/words.exe?manes WORDS Latin-English dictionary]</ref> but the singular is not used for the meaning specific to these spirits; in English the word has no singular, and so NetHack just uses ''manes'' for the singular as well. Compare ''[[lemure]]''.
+{{wikipedia|Manes}}
-==SLASH'EM==
+==Variants==
 In [[SLASH'EM]], manes [[hits creatures as +x weapon|hit as a +1 weapon]] but are otherwise unchanged.  This property could theoretically make them useful pets for hitting [[need +x weapon to hit|monsters with the opposite property]], but the difficulty of taming them combined with their slow speed means that even [[pacifist]]s will likely look for better options.
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 ==References==
 <references/>
+{{nethack-367}}
 [[Category:Monsters]]

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 ==Encyclopedia entry==
-{{encyclopedia|<poem>
+{{encyclopedia|
-The gnats of the dungeon, these swarming monsters are rarely
+The gnats of the dungeon, these swarming monsters are rarely seen alone.}}
 ==References==