Mindless - Revision history

Umbire the Phantom: ...isn't a dnh-specific article, is what I intended to place in the last summary.

2025-11-30T03:56:33Z

...isn't a dnh-specific article, is what I intended to place in the last summary.

Umbire the Phantom: Undo revision 195176 by MrSurvivor1997 (talk) this isn

2025-11-30T03:42:23Z

Undo revision 195176 by MrSurvivor1997 (talk) this isn

MrSurvivor1997: /* List of mindless monsters */ The pharaoh in dNetHack and it’s variants is not mindless unlike other mummies.

2025-11-19T22:27:44Z

‎List of mindless monsters: The pharaoh in dNetHack and it’s variants is not mindless unlike other mummies.

YourAdHereCZ: /* Description */ I think something got lost here

2025-02-24T21:40:24Z

‎Description: I think something got lost here

Umbire the Phantom: (lack of) item usage

2025-02-11T00:01:51Z

(lack of) item usage

Umbire the Phantom: fragment

2025-02-10T19:45:43Z

fragment

Umbire the Phantom: formatting, copyedit, updating, detailing

2025-02-10T19:45:31Z

formatting, copyedit, updating, detailing

YourAdHereCZ: Resolved TODO: first part found out to be untrue, possible relic of 3.4.3. Second part is now properly mentioned. Updated for 3.6.7, including all source refs. Simplified an overly florid sentence. Added some more refs.

2025-02-10T17:23:46Z

Resolved TODO: first part found out to be untrue, possible relic of 3.4.3. Second part is now properly mentioned. Updated for 3.6.7, including all source refs. Simplified an overly florid sentence. Added some more refs.

Umbire the Phantom: port upcoming here, earmark

2025-02-09T04:35:45Z

port upcoming here, earmark

Actual-nh: /* List of mindless monsters */ Skeletons

2021-06-03T18:45:27Z

‎List of mindless monsters: Skeletons

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 {{distinguish|brainlessness}}
-In ''[[NetHack]]'', a '''mindless''' [[monster]] is any monster that lacks a physical brain and nervous system or a sufficiently analogous equivalent. Mindlessness is designated by the <tt>'''M1_MINDLESS'''</tt> flag in [[monst.h]], which is checked for by the macro '''mindless(ptr)'''.{{refsrc|include/mondata.h|75|nethack=3.6.7}}
+In ''[[NetHack]]'', a '''mindless''' [[monster]] is any monster that lacks a physical brain and nervous system or a sufficiently analogous equivalent. Mindlessness is designated by the <tt>'''M1_MINDLESS'''</tt> flag in [[monst.h]], which is checked for by the macro '''<tt>mindless(ptr)</tt>'''.{{refsrc|include/mondata.h|75|nethack=3.6.7}}
 This is not to be confused with [[brainlessness]], which is the result of a [[hero]] or monster having their [[intelligence]] [[Intelligence drain|drained]] by a [[mind flayer]] or [[master mind flayer]].

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 * all {{monclass|E}}s except [[stalker]]s
 * all {{mcsl|F}} [[Fungus or mold|fungi and molds]]
-* all {{mcsl|M}} [[mummies]] except the [[pharaoh]]
+* all {{mcsl|M}} [[mummies]]
 * all {{mcsl|P}} [[Pudding or ooze|puddings and oozes]]
 * all {{monclass|Z}}s

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 * all {{monclass|E}}s except [[stalker]]s
 * all {{mcsl|F}} [[Fungus or mold|fungi and molds]]
-* all {{mcsl|M}} [[mummies]]
+* all {{mcsl|M}} [[mummies]] except the [[pharaoh]]
 * all {{mcsl|P}} [[Pudding or ooze|puddings and oozes]]
 * all {{monclass|Z}}s

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 A mindless monster cannot pick up items unless they have the <tt>M2_COLLECT</tt> flag, and cannot use most [[amulet]]s, any [[scroll]]s, any [[wand]]s, any [[potion]]s, or most [[tool]]s that they come across, including items obtained prior to [[polymorph]] into a mindless form.{{refsrc|include/monsters.h|2500|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/muse.c|338|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/muse.c|1092|nethack=3.6.7}} [[Weapon]]s can be used by mindless monsters if they have a weapon attack, while they can only wear [[armor]] that they are generated with, though they will still pick up armor if they are flagged to collect items.{{refsrc|src/worn.c|483|nethack=3.6.7}}
-be detected by [[telepathy]], and is unaffected by the brain-eating attacks of mind flayers.{{refsrc|include/display.h|33|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|549|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|613|nethack=3.6.7}} This protection does not extend to a hero [[polymorph]]ed into the form of a mindless monster.{{refsrc|src/eat.c|581|nethack=3.6.7|comment="no such thing as mindless players"}} A mindless monster that is also [[breathless]] can safely wear an [[amulet of strangulation]] with no adverse effects, which also applies to a hero in the form of such a monster.{{refsrc|src/mondata.c|382|nethack=3.6.7}}
+Mindless monsters cannot be detected by [[telepathy]], and are unaffected by the brain-eating attacks of mind flayers.{{refsrc|include/display.h|33|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|549|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|613|nethack=3.6.7}} This protection does not extend to a hero [[polymorph]]ed into the form of a mindless monster.{{refsrc|src/eat.c|581|nethack=3.6.7|comment="no such thing as mindless players"}} A mindless monster that is also [[breathless]] can safely wear an [[amulet of strangulation]] with no adverse effects, which also applies to a hero in the form of such a monster.{{refsrc|src/mondata.c|382|nethack=3.6.7}}
 {{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|Per {{commit|6e49372d8f76172f5dde2a9a8ecb551d4be2a1e1}}, mindless monsters are immune to musical scaring.}}

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 ==Description==
-A mindless monster cannot pick up items unless they have the <tt>M2_COLLECT</tt> flag, and cannot use [[scroll]]s, [[wand]]s, [[potion]]s, or most [[tool]]s that they come across, including items obtained prior to [[polymorph]] into a mindless form.{{refsrc|include/monsters.h|2500|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/muse.c|338|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/muse.c|1092|nethack=3.6.7}} [[Weapon]]s can be used by mindless monsters if they have a weapon attack, while they can only wear [[armor]] that they are generated with, though they will still pick up armor if they are flagged to collect items.{{refsrc|src/worn.c|483|nethack=3.6.7}}
+A mindless monster cannot pick up items unless they have the <tt>M2_COLLECT</tt> flag, and cannot use most [[amulet]]s, any [[scroll]]s, any [[wand]]s, any [[potion]]s, or most [[tool]]s that they come across, including items obtained prior to [[polymorph]] into a mindless form.{{refsrc|include/monsters.h|2500|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/muse.c|338|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/muse.c|1092|nethack=3.6.7}} [[Weapon]]s can be used by mindless monsters if they have a weapon attack, while they can only wear [[armor]] that they are generated with, though they will still pick up armor if they are flagged to collect items.{{refsrc|src/worn.c|483|nethack=3.6.7}}
 be detected by [[telepathy]], and is unaffected by the brain-eating attacks of mind flayers.{{refsrc|include/display.h|33|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|549|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|613|nethack=3.6.7}} This protection does not extend to a hero [[polymorph]]ed into the form of a mindless monster.{{refsrc|src/eat.c|581|nethack=3.6.7|comment="no such thing as mindless players"}} A mindless monster that is also [[breathless]] can safely wear an [[amulet of strangulation]] with no adverse effects, which also applies to a hero in the form of such a monster.{{refsrc|src/mondata.c|382|nethack=3.6.7}}

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-A '''mindless''' monster does not have a mind<!--syntactical!-->. Mindlessness is identified by the macro '''mindless(ptr)''',{{refsrc|mondata.h|75|nethack=3.6.7}} which checks for the flag '''M1_MINDLESS''' in [[monst.h]].
+This is not to be confused with [[brainlessness]], which is the result of a [[hero]] or monster having their [[intelligence]] [[Intelligence drain|drained]] by a [[mind flayer]] or [[master mind flayer]].
-Not to be confused with [[brainlessness]], a state attainable by unfortunate players not keeping their distance from [[mind flayer]]s.
+==Description==
-==Effects==
+be detected by [[telepathy]], and is unaffected by the brain-eating attacks of mind flayers.{{refsrc|include/display.h|33|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|549|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/eat.c|613|nethack=3.6.7}} This protection does not extend to a hero [[polymorph]]ed into the form of a mindless monster.{{refsrc|src/eat.c|581|nethack=3.6.7|comment="no such thing as mindless players"}} A mindless monster that is also [[breathless]] can safely wear an [[amulet of strangulation]] with no adverse effects, which also applies to a hero in the form of such a monster.{{refsrc|src/mondata.c|382|nethack=3.6.7}}
 {{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|Per {{commit|6e49372d8f76172f5dde2a9a8ecb551d4be2a1e1}}, mindless monsters are immune to musical scaring.}}
 ==List of mindless monsters==
-* [[Blob]]s
+The following monster types are considered to be mindless:
-* [[sphere|Spheres]] (including [[gas spore]]s but not [[floating eye]]s)
-* [[jelly|Jellies]]
+* all {{monclass|b}}s
-* [[vortex|Vortices]]
+* all {{mcsl|e}} [[Eye or sphere|eyes and spheres]] except the [[floating eye]]
-* [[Light_(monster_class)|Light]]s
+* all {{mcsl|j}} [[jellies]]
-* [[Elemental]]s (excluding [[stalker]]s)
+* all {{mcsl|v}} [[vortices]]
-* [[fungus|Fungi]]
+* all {{monclass|y}}s
-* [[mummy|Mummies]]
+* all {{monclass|E}}s except [[stalker]]s
-* [[Pudding]]s
+* all {{mcsl|F}} [[Fungus or mold|fungi and molds]]
-* [[Zombie]]s
+* all {{mcsl|M}} [[mummies]]
-* [[Skeleton]]s
+* all {{mcsl|P}} [[Pudding or ooze|puddings and oozes]]
-* [[Golem]]s
+* all {{monclass|Z}}s
 ==References==
 <references />
 {{nethack-367}}

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	Further, mindless monsters are incapable of using items; that is, [[scroll]]s, [[wand]]s, [[potion]]s, and [[horn]]s.{{refsrc\|muse.c\|278\|nethack=3.6.0}}{{refsrc\|muse.c\|1073\|nethack=3.6.0}}		Further, mindless monsters are incapable of using items; that is, [[scroll]]s, [[wand]]s, [[potion]]s, and [[horn]]s.{{refsrc\|muse.c\|278\|nethack=3.6.0}}{{refsrc\|muse.c\|1073\|nethack=3.6.0}}
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		+	{{upcoming\|NetHack 3.7.0\|Per {{commit\|6e49372d8f76172f5dde2a9a8ecb551d4be2a1e1}}, mindless monsters are immune to musical scaring.}}

	==List of mindless monsters==		==List of mindless monsters==