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CamelCasedSnivy: /* Bustling Town */ added change to monsters in bustling town

2026-03-04T21:32:02Z

‎Bustling Town: added change to monsters in bustling town

Umbire the Phantom: potholes

2025-06-27T09:32:31Z

potholes

YourAdHereCZ: /* The Watch */ linkify bugle; link led to an outdated anchor; update source ref

2025-02-24T21:29:12Z

‎The Watch: linkify bugle; link led to an outdated anchor; update source ref

YourAdHereCZ: TODO: "the Fence"

2025-02-11T21:58:49Z

TODO: "the Fence"

YourAdHereCZ: Orcish Town: consistent capitalization

2025-02-11T20:02:08Z

Orcish Town: consistent capitalization

YourAdHereCZ: /* History */ clarify that this pertains to Orcish Town

2025-02-11T20:00:57Z

‎History: clarify that this pertains to Orcish Town

YourAdHereCZ: /* History */ reflect changes made to Orctown section

2025-02-11T19:57:34Z

‎History: reflect changes made to Orctown section

YourAdHereCZ: 3.6.2 made it so that creatures outside of the mines branch would no longer be generated as part of the clan or be given items from the loot pool, the gang operates in the Mines

2025-02-11T19:42:28Z

3.6.2 made it so that creatures outside of the mines branch would no longer be generated as part of the clan or be given items from the loot pool, the gang operates in the Mines

YourAdHereCZ: /* Strategy */ started on strategy specific to Orctown

2025-02-10T22:21:30Z

‎Strategy: started on strategy specific to Orctown

Umbire the Phantom: potholes et. al.

2025-01-16T13:13:40Z

potholes et. al.

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 |In room between light and tool shops
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 ===Bazaar Town===

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+|
 |No shops, desecrated temple, many [[Orc (monster class)|orcs]]
-|7 Candle, 1 oil lamp, 5 empty wands of [[striking]] and [[magic missile]], 11 human corpses
+|7 Candle, 1 oil lamp, 5 empty wands of {{of|wand|striking|and=1|magic missile}}, 11 human corpses
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 You can therefore expect to find, on average, 6.857 stacks of [[light source|lighting]] [[shop|store]] [[item]]s, 6.429 of general [[shop|store]] [[item]]s, 4.414 [[food]], 6.286 [[tool]], .857 [[book]], and 0.171 stacks of quality apparel and accessory [[shop]] [[item]]s in the shops of the average Minetown variant. Accounting for [[mimic]]s, these figures become 6.480 [[light source|lighting]], 6.075 general, 4.171 [[food]], 5.940 [[tool]], .810 [[book]], and 0.162 quality apparel and accessories.<ref>Expected without mimics, times .945, the proportion of squares without mimics on average.</ref>
-You can expect to find 0.18 [[magic lamp]]s in the average 6 stack [[Izchak]]'s lighting store, and 0.27 in the 9 stack [[Izchak]]'s lighting store. This gives 0.206 expected<ref>Weighted mean: 0.18 * 5/7 + .27 * (2/7)</ref> [[magic lamp]]s in the average [[Izchak]]'s lighting store, and 0.194 accounting for [[mimic]]s.
+You can expect to find 0.18 [[magic lamp]]s in the average 6 stack [[Izchak]]'s lighting store, and 0.27 in the 9 stack [[Izchak]]'s lighting store. This gives 0.206 expected<ref>Weighted mean: 0.18 * 5/7 + .27 * (2/7)</ref> magic lamps in the average Izchak's lighting store, and 0.194 accounting for [[mimic]]s.
 In addition, you can expect to find 0.000729 [[wand of wishing|wands of wishing]] on average in the Minetown quality apparel and accessories shop; as well as 0.00122 [[wand of wishing|wands of wishing]] and 0.00729 [[magic lamp]]s on average in the Minetown general store; and 0.0891 [[magic lamp]]s on average in the Minetown [[tool]] stores; all accounting for [[mimic]]s.<ref>3% of items in a light store are magic lamps; 8% of items in general store are tools, 0.015 tools are magic lamps; 90% of items in "wand" shop are wands, 4% of items in general store are wands, 0.5% of wands are wishing; see http://www.steelypips.org/nethack/343/tool-343.html and http://www.steelypips.org/nethack/343/wan1-343.html as well as [[Shop|the wiki's shop page]].</ref>

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 * Apply a [[lock pick]], [[credit card]] or [[skeleton key]] on a locked [[door]]
-* Attack any peaceful monster{{refsrc|src/mon.c|2725|nethack=3.6.1}}.
+* Attack any peaceful monster{{refsrc|src/mon.c|2983|nethack=3.6.7}}.
 * Dig through with a [[Spellbook of dig|spell]] or [[wand of digging]], or use a [[pick-axe]] or [[dwarvish mattock]] on a [[door]].
 * Dig through walls.
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 * Dig down on a [[fountain]] (or overuse it — you will be warned first, unless successfully creating [[Excalibur]] in which case it ''will'' dry up the fountain and anger the Watch).
 * Steal from a shop (even accidentally, i.e., unexpected teleportation).
-* Improvise with a bugle (this angers all soldiers).
+* Improvise with a [[bugle]] (this angers all soldiers).
 You will receive one warning before angering the watch for kicking down or unlocking doors. Digging through walls or doors with a pickaxe will receive a warning, but using a spell or wand to dig them will cause the watch to become hostile immediately (as it cannot be interrupted).
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 If you have stolen from a shop, you can pacify the watch by paying your debt to the shopkeeper, even if you made the watch angry in some other way.
-See [[Watchman#Killing watchmen|the main article]] for information on getting watchmen out of the way and killing them for profit.
+See [[Watchman#Fighting watchmen|the main article]] for information on getting watchmen out of the way and killing them for profit.
 ==Strategy==

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	The orcs both in the town and on the other levels carry extra loot they would not normally have, from a pool of resources. This loot consists of [[candle]]s, [[key]]s, random [[comestible]]s, one random pair of [[gloves]], and either one [[long sword]] or [[silver saber]], equally likely. Some orcs may be carrying additional loot consisting of gold, gems, and possibly a shiny [[ring]]. The named captain will always have a shiny ring.		The orcs both in the town and on the other levels carry extra loot they would not normally have, from a pool of resources. This loot consists of [[candle]]s, [[key]]s, random [[comestible]]s, one random pair of [[gloves]], and either one [[long sword]] or [[silver saber]], equally likely. Some orcs may be carrying additional loot consisting of gold, gems, and possibly a shiny [[ring]]. The named captain will always have a shiny ring.
		+	{{todo\|Explore and explain the role and item generation of a monster called "(random orcish generated name) ''the Fence''", which can sometimes generate in the main branch near the entrance to the Mines. See pager.c and dokick.c.}}

	==Comparison of Towns==		==Comparison of Towns==

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 ===Friendly variants===
-Because every Minetown variant except Orcish town always has a [[temple]] and [[shops]], it is usually an excellent location for a first [[stash]]. The temple's [[altar]] provides [[BUC]] identification while the shops provide [[price identification]], especially if your Minetown has a general store. There is also a significant 1/3 chance that the temple is co-aligned, which makes it a [[sanctuary]] (and a useful altar which can be used for sacrifice right away). Many players unload some excess loot in the Minetown temple before going on to [[Mines' End]], and then consolidate upon their return. The disadvantage is that you might not be putting your stash in a [[container]].
+Because every Minetown variant except Orcish Town always has a [[temple]] and [[shops]], it is usually an excellent location for a first [[stash]]. The temple's [[altar]] provides [[BUC]] identification while the shops provide [[price identification]], especially if your Minetown has a general store. There is also a significant 1/3 chance that the temple is co-aligned, which makes it a [[sanctuary]] (and a useful altar which can be used for sacrifice right away). Many players unload some excess loot in the Minetown temple before going on to [[Mines' End]], and then consolidate upon their return. The disadvantage is that you might not be putting your stash in a [[container]].
 Minetown often has a deli and a tool shop. (Remember not to let your pet eat all the [[tripe ration]]s.) Minetown can be a good place to increase your food supply if you are low. Players who are missing a [[skeleton key]] or other cheap tool can buy one. Be aware though that the [[Gnomish Mines]] has several tools for free sitting on its other levels.
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 A [[wizard]] should sacrifice for [[Magicbane]] as early as possible. If the Minetown temple happens to be cross-aligned, the [[Aligned_priest#Killing_a_temple_priest_safely|tending priest needs to be killed safely]] beforehand (and after buying [[protection racket|protection]]). (Note a [[Helm of opposite alignment]] might allow you to sacrifice without killing the priest, but you will never get [[Magicbane]] this way.)
-===Orcish town===
+===Orcish Town===
-The Orcish town variant is an unwelcome sight to many players, as its generation usually makes a game more difficult. As mentioned previously, it has no functioning shops or temple, and is densely populated with orcs. It is also fully closed off by walls and iron bars, requiring the player to either dig through the walls, destroy the bars with acid, teleport in, polymorph into a form that can either phase through the walls or pass through the bars, or just wait until someone or something else breaches the wall.
+The Orcish Town variant is an unwelcome sight to many players, as its generation usually makes a game more difficult. As mentioned previously, it has no functioning shops or temple, and is densely populated with orcs. It is also fully closed off by walls and iron bars, requiring the player to either dig through the walls, destroy the bars with acid, teleport in, polymorph into a form that can either phase through the walls or pass through the bars, or just wait until someone or something else breaches the wall.
 In the middle of the town there is always an unaligned altar that can be converted, practically guaranteeing a patient player their first sacrifice gift. However, many consider this a poor consolation prize that can't quite offset the many disadvantages of not being able to use the town's usual services in the early game, not to mention the considerable amount of fighting that needs to happen before the altar can even be accessed.

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−	In [[NetHack 3.6.0]] and [[NetHack 3.6.1]], ~~eligible~~ monsters ~~outside the Mines branch~~ would be generated with the clan name and potentially items from the special ~~Orctown~~ loot pool. This was fixed in [[NetHack 3.6.2\|3.6.2]].	+	In [[NetHack 3.6.0]] and [[NetHack 3.6.1]], in games where Orcish Town appeared, monsters would be generated with the clan name and potentially items from the special Orcish Town loot pool ''even outside of the Mines branch''. This was fixed in [[NetHack 3.6.2\|3.6.2]].

	In [[NetHack 3.4.3]] and earlier versions, Orcish Town existed in a non-destroyed form as ''Frontier Town'':		In [[NetHack 3.4.3]] and earlier versions, Orcish Town existed in a non-destroyed form as ''Frontier Town'':

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 ==History==
 In [[NetHack 3.4.3]] and earlier versions, Orcish Town existed in a non-destroyed form as ''Frontier Town'':
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 All of the orcs in Orcish Town are generated with randomly generated names: an individual name which is different for each orc and a clan name which is the same for all of the orcs in the town.
-In games that contain Orcish Town, several more named orcs (including [[orc zombie]]s) can appear on other levels in the Mines and the main branch, and an orc-captain with just the clan name appears on one of the very bottom levels of the Mines.
+In games that contain Orcish Town, several more named orcs (including [[orc zombie]]s) can appear on other levels in the Mines, and an orc-captain with just the clan name appears on one of the very bottom levels of the Mines.
 The orcs both in the town and on the other levels carry extra loot they would not normally have, from a pool of resources. This loot consists of [[candle]]s, [[key]]s, random [[comestible]]s, one random pair of [[gloves]], and either one [[long sword]] or [[silver saber]], equally likely. Some orcs may be carrying additional loot consisting of gold, gems, and possibly a shiny [[ring]]. The named captain will always have a shiny ring.

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 ==Strategy==
-{{todo|This section assumes that Minetown always has an temple and shops, which Orctown doesn't. It should be rewritten to reflect that the temple and shops cannot be relied on.}}
+===Friendly variants===
-Because Minetown always has an [[altar]] and [[shops]], it is an excellent location for a first [[stash]]. The altar provides [[BUC]] identification while the shops provide [[price identification]], especially if [[you]]r Minetown has a general store. There is also a significant 1/3 chance that the temple is co-aligned, which makes it a [[sanctuary]] (and a useful altar). Many players unload some excess loot in the Minetown temple before going on to [[Mines' End]], and then consolidate upon their return. The disadvantage is that you might not be putting your stash in a [[container]].
+Because every Minetown variant except Orcish town always has a [[temple]] and [[shops]], it is usually an excellent location for a first [[stash]]. The temple's [[altar]] provides [[BUC]] identification while the shops provide [[price identification]], especially if your Minetown has a general store. There is also a significant 1/3 chance that the temple is co-aligned, which makes it a [[sanctuary]] (and a useful altar which can be used for sacrifice right away). Many players unload some excess loot in the Minetown temple before going on to [[Mines' End]], and then consolidate upon their return. The disadvantage is that you might not be putting your stash in a [[container]].
 Minetown often has a deli and a tool shop. (Remember not to let your pet eat all the [[tripe ration]]s.) Minetown can be a good place to increase your food supply if you are low. Players who are missing a [[skeleton key]] or other cheap tool can buy one. Be aware though that the [[Gnomish Mines]] has several tools for free sitting on its other levels.
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 The popularity of Minetown means that players spend a long time there, and hence have a greater than average opportunity of dying there. Thus Minetown is often a [[bones level]].
-Reaching the Minetown priest is the objective of the [[protection racket]], perhaps also [[Credit cloning|cloning credit]] in the stores.
+Reaching the Minetown priest is the objective of the [[protection racket]], perhaps preceded by[[Credit cloning|cloning credit]] in the stores.
 Izchak's light shop will have .194 [[magic lamp]]s on average. In case there are no other shops and you want [[price identification]]: [[credit cloning|clone credit]], throw items in, and buy them back to get a price quote.
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 As mentioned above, if you dry up one of the fountains by dipping, the Watchmen will become hostile, regardless of whether the Watchmen can see you.
-If you let your pet kill them (and perhaps heal it up afterwards), the minetown guards will be a good source of studded leather armor and leather gloves for a spellcaster and help identify non-magical equipment. If you want to kill them yourself one by one, it is a good idea to lure them to a different level first. You will still be penalized for murder, but the other guards will not be angered with you.
+If you let your pet kill them (and perhaps heal it up afterwards), the Minetown guards will be a good source of studded leather armor and leather gloves for a spellcaster and help identify non-magical equipment. If you want to kill them yourself one by one, it is a good idea to lure them to a different level first. You will still be penalized for murder, but the other guards will not be angered with you.
-A [[wizard]] should sacrifice for [[Magicbane]] as early as possible. If the minetown temple happens to be cross-aligned, the [[Aligned_priest#Killing_a_temple_priest_safely|tending priest needs to be killed safely]] beforehand (and after buying [[protection racket|protection]]). (Note a [[Helm of opposite alignment]] might allow you to sacrifice without killing the priest, but you will never get [[Magicbane]] this way.)
+A [[wizard]] should sacrifice for [[Magicbane]] as early as possible. If the Minetown temple happens to be cross-aligned, the [[Aligned_priest#Killing_a_temple_priest_safely|tending priest needs to be killed safely]] beforehand (and after buying [[protection racket|protection]]). (Note a [[Helm of opposite alignment]] might allow you to sacrifice without killing the priest, but you will never get [[Magicbane]] this way.)
 ==History==

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 H=[[gnome king|{{magenta|G}}]]
 T=[[tree|{{green|#}}]]
-p=[[nymph|{{white|n}}]]
+p=[[Nymph (monster class)|{{white|n}}]]
 #=[[sink|{{gray|#}}]]
 %=[[door|{{red|+}}]]
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 |-
 |Nymph
-|Random [[nymph|{{white|n}}]]
+|Random {{mcsl|n}}
 |In marked room
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 |50% 4
 |30% 6
-|[[sink]], [[monkey]]s, random [[nymph]]
+|[[sink]], [[monkey]]s, random [[Nymph (monster class)|nymph]]
 |6 Light, 2.4 General, 4 Food, 3.8 Tool
 |-