Monster carrying capacity - Revision history

Umbire the Phantom: pothole

2025-01-16T18:49:39Z

pothole

Darth l33t: /* Weighty monsters */ special rules

2023-02-05T16:16:26Z

‎Weighty monsters: special rules

Cathartes: /* Notes */

2021-11-01T02:28:08Z

‎Notes

Cathartes: structure and rewrite article to be more understandable for casual readers, instead of imitating the source code

2021-10-31T23:19:47Z

structure and rewrite article to be more understandable for casual readers, instead of imitating the source code

Umbire the Phantom at 03:49, 1 March 2021

2021-03-01T03:49:01Z

Cathartes: add air elemental as another example of a zero-weight monster

2021-02-23T07:14:33Z

add air elemental as another example of a zero-weight monster

Cathartes: re-do table of monsters, included some various examples

2021-02-23T06:53:17Z

re-do table of monsters, included some various examples

Cathartes at 06:23, 23 February 2021

2021-02-23T06:23:50Z

Cathartes: nethack-366

2021-02-23T06:10:36Z

nethack-366

Cathartes at 05:51, 23 February 2021

2021-02-23T05:51:42Z

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 Some monsters have special rules for their carrying capacity:
-* [[Nymph]]s have functionally unlimited carrying capacity, although they won't pick up [[boulder]]s or [[statue]]s.{{refsrc|src/mon.c|1294|version=NetHack 3.6.6|comment=The function returns before the nymph's actual carrying capacity is checked.}}
+* [[Nymph (monster class)|Nymphs]] have functionally unlimited carrying capacity, although they won't pick up [[boulder]]s or [[statue]]s.{{refsrc|src/mon.c|1294|version=NetHack 3.6.6|comment=The function returns before the nymph's actual carrying capacity is checked.}}
 * [[giant (monster attribute)|Giant]]s can carry any number of boulders.{{refsrc|src/mon.c|1290|version=NetHack 3.6.6}}

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	This can be simplified to <math>\frac{\text{weight}}{2.9}</math> if the monster is not strong, and <math>\frac{\text{max}(\text{weight}, 1450)}{1.45}</math> if the monster is strong.		This can be simplified to <math>\frac{\text{weight}}{2.9}</math> if the monster is not strong, and <math>\frac{\text{max}(\text{weight}, 1450)}{1.45}</math> if the monster is strong.
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		+	Some monsters have special rules for their carrying capacity:
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		+	* [[Nymph]]s have functionally unlimited carrying capacity, although they won't pick up [[boulder]]s or [[statue]]s.{{refsrc\|src/mon.c\|1294\|version=NetHack 3.6.6\|comment=The function returns before the nymph's actual carrying capacity is checked.}}
		+	* [[giant (monster attribute)\|Giant]]s can carry any number of boulders.{{refsrc\|src/mon.c\|1290\|version=NetHack 3.6.6}}

	==Weightless monsters==		==Weightless monsters==

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 ==Notes==
-Note that despite the source code comment mentioning [[corpseless]] monsters, the formula based on monster size is only used for monsters with a ''weight'' of 0.  Thus, a corpseless [[lich]], with medium (2) size and 1200 weight, has a carrying capacity of 413, not 500.  A [[wraith]], with medium size and 0 weight, has a carrying capacity of 500.
+Despite the source code comment mentioning [[corpseless]] monsters,{{refsrc|src/mon.c|1196|version=NetHack 3.6.6}} the formula based on monster size is only used for monsters with a ''weight'' of 0.  Thus, a corpseless [[lich]], with medium (2) size and 1200 weight, uses the formula for weighty monsters and has a carrying capacity of 413, not 500.  A [[wraith]], with medium size and 0 weight, uses the formula for weightless monsters and has a carrying capacity of 500.
 ==Examples==

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-A monster's '''carrying capacity''' is calculated based on its weight or size relative to a human.  Specifically, it is determined by the following procedure:
+A monster's '''carrying capacity''' is calculated based on its weight or size relative to a human.{{refsrc|src/mon.c|1185|version=NetHack 3.6.6}}
-<math>\text{maxload} = \frac{{1000 \times \text{cwt}}}{\text{weight of human}}</math>,
+==Weighty monsters==
-where cwt is the monster's [[weight]], if cwt is not 0.  The weight of a human is 1450 for this calculation.  If the monster is [[strong]] and weighs less than a human, then the monster's carrying capacity is set to 1000.
+<math>\frac{{1000 \times \text{monster weight}}}{\text{weight of human}} (\times \frac{1}{2} \text{if not strong})</math>.
-For a monster with a cwt of 0, its carrying capacity depends on its [[physical size]]:
+The weight of a human is 1450 for this calculation.{{refsrc|include/permonst.h|34|version=NetHack 3.6.6}}  If a [[strong]] monster would have less than 1000 carrying capacity based on this calculation, then its carrying capacity is set to 1000.
-<math>\text{maxload} = \frac{1000 \times \text{msize}}{\text{size of human}} </math>,
+This can be simplified to <math>\frac{\text{weight}}{2.9}</math> if the monster is not strong, and <math>\frac{\text{max}(\text{weight}, 1450)}{1.45}</math> if the monster is strong.
-where msize is 0 for tiny, 1 for small, 2 for medium, 3 for large, 4 for huge, and 7 for gigantic.  Humans have medium (2) size.
+==Weightless monsters==
-Finally, if the monster is not strong, then its carrying capacity is divided by 2:
+<math>\frac{1000 \times \text{monster size}}{\text{size of human}} (\times \frac{1}{2} \text{if not strong})</math>.
-<math>\text{maxload} = \frac{\text{maxload}}{2}</math>.{{refsrc|src/mon.c|1185|version=NetHack 3.6.6}}
+The numerical value used for monster size is that used for [[physical size]]: 0 for tiny, 1 for small, 2 for medium, 3 for large, 4 for huge, and 7 for gigantic.  Humans have medium (2) size.{{refsrc|include/monflag.h|165|version=NetHack 3.6.6}}
-Note that despite the source code comment mentioning [[corpseless]] monsters, the formula based on monster size is only used for monsters with a cwt of 0.  Thus, a corpseless [[lich]], with medium (2) size and 1200 weight, has a carrying capacity of 413, not 500.  A [[wraith]], with medium size and 0 weight, has a carrying capacity of 500.
+==Notes==
+Note that despite the source code comment mentioning [[corpseless]] monsters, the formula based on monster size is only used for monsters with a ''weight'' of 0.  Thus, a corpseless [[lich]], with medium (2) size and 1200 weight, has a carrying capacity of 413, not 500.  A [[wraith]], with medium size and 0 weight, has a carrying capacity of 500.
 ==Examples==

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-A monster's carrying capacity is calculated based on its weight or size relative to a human.  Specifically, it is determined by the following procedure:
+A monster's '''carrying capacity''' is calculated based on its weight or size relative to a human.  Specifically, it is determined by the following procedure:
 <math>\text{maxload} = \frac{{1000 \times \text{cwt}}}{\text{weight of human}}</math>,
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 In effect, the carrying capacity of a non-zero-weight monster is <math>\frac{\text{cwt}}{2.9}</math> if a monster is not strong, and <math>\frac{\text{max}(\text{cwt}, 1450)}{1.45}</math> if a monster is strong.
-== Examples ==
+==Examples==
 {|class="prettytable sortable"

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 |-
 |[[wraith]] || 0 || No || 2 (medium) || 500
 |-
 |[[mind flayer]] || 1450 || No || 2 (medium) || 500

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 In effect, the carrying capacity of a non-zero-weight monster is <math>\frac{\text{cwt}}{2.9}</math> if a monster is not strong, and <math>\frac{\text{max}(\text{cwt}, 1450)}{1.45}</math> if a monster is strong.
-A few monsters' carrying capacity:
+== Examples ==
-{|class="prettytable"
+{|class="prettytable sortable"
 ! Monster
-! [[kitten]]/[[little dog]]
+! Weight
-! [[housecat]]/[[dog]]
+! Strong?
-! [[hobbit]]
+! Size
-! [[large cat]]/[[large dog]]
+! Carrying capacity
 |-
-|Capacity || 52 || 69 || 173 || 1000 || 1000 || 1000 || 1034 || 1241
+|[[kitten]] || 150 || No || 1 (small) || 51
 |}

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