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Undo revision 164425 by Umbire the Phantom (talk) long remedied before I ever added this, unsure what the thinking was - I might've mistook it for a different article

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Cathartes: /* Difficulty values */ Vlad the Impaler drinks several potions of gain level! Vlad the Impaler rises up, through the list! (stats copied from Vlad the Impaler on the assumption that this page is the one out of date)

2021-09-07T03:23:40Z

‎Difficulty values: Vlad the Impaler drinks several potions of gain level! Vlad the Impaler rises up, through the list! (stats copied from Vlad the Impaler on the assumption that this page is the one out of date)

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 This is a list of [[monster]]s sorted by difficulty value, then by [[experience]] value.
-The experience value is calculated assuming that monster level is equal to its base level, which in practice is not always the case. The steps to reproduce the calculation can be found [[User:Prowler/Monster_difficulty_and_experience_calculation|here]]. If there are discrepancies between these and those listed in the articles, please verify and then correct the article.
+The experience value is calculated assuming that monster level is equal to its base level, which in practice is not always the case. The steps to reproduce the calculation can be found [[User:Prowler/Monster_difficulty_and_experience_calculation|here]]. If there are discrepancies between these experience values and those listed in the articles, please verify the former first and then correct the article if necessary.
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-== Difficulty values ==
+==Difficulty values==
-This is a list of [[monster]]s sorted by [[difficulty]], then by [[experience]] value.
+The experience value is calculated assuming that monster level is equal to its base level, which in practice is not always the case. The steps to reproduce the calculation can be found [[User:Prowler/Monster_difficulty_and_experience_calculation|here]]. If there are discrepancies between these and those listed in the articles, please verify and then correct the article.
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 |[[apprentice]] ||	71	||	8
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-|[[acolyte]] ||	71	||	8
+|[[Acolyte (quest guardian)|acolyte]] ||	71	||	8
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 |[[rust monster]] ||	70	||	8

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 |[[air elemental]] ||	126	||	10
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-|[[sergeant]] ||	118	||	10
+|[[Sergeant (monster)|sergeant]] ||	118	||	10
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 |[[giant mummy]] ||	116	||	10

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-==Difficulty values==
+== Difficulty values ==
 This is a list of [[monster]]s sorted by [[difficulty]], then by [[experience]] value.
 This table was generated with the use of a modified version of [[makedefs]] to calculate experience values as well, and is believed by the author to be accurate.  If there are discrepancies between these and those listed in the articles, please correct the article.
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-==Difficulty algorithm (3.6.1 and earlier)==
+== Difficulty algorithm (3.6.1 and earlier) ==
 In versions of NetHack prior to 3.6.2 (and derived variants), the monster's difficulty was calculated during compilation using the below algorithm, and stored in [[monstr.c]]. As of NetHack 3.6.2, difficulty is now stored in the monst.c as part of the mons array. All monsters have the same difficulty in 3.6.1 and 3.6.2.

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-In ''[[NetHack]]'', a '''monster's difficulty''' is a number from 1 to 57 which represents the game's idea of how tough a monster is. It loosely correlates with a monster's [[monster level|base level]], but is often higher for monsters with special properties that might make them tougher.
+In ''[[NetHack]]'', a monster's '''difficulty''' is a number from 1 to 57 which represents the game's idea of how tough a monster is. It loosely correlates with a monster's [[monster level|base level]], but is often higher for monsters with special properties that might make them tougher.
 Difficulty is primarily used in the [[normal mechanism]] of monster generation to decide whether a candidate monster is appropriately difficult for the player to encounter. A monster is "too strong" to be randomly generated when its difficulty is greater than the average of your [[experience level]] and your [[dungeon level]]. It is "too weak" to be randomly generated when its difficulty is less than your dungeon level divided by 6, rounded down. (For this purpose, once you have the [[Amulet of Yendor]] your dungeon level is considered to be that of the [[Sanctum]], and in the endgame to be the depth of the Sanctum plus half your experience level.) Most of the less common mechanisms of monster generation do not have similar limits.
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 |[[ettin]] ||	291	||	13
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-|[[Oracle]] ||	286	||	13
+|[[Oracle (monster)|Oracle]] ||	286	||	13
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 |[[bone devil]] ||	285	||	13

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−	~~A monster~~'s '''difficulty''' is a number from 1 to 57 which represents the game's idea of how tough a monster is. It loosely correlates with a monster's [[monster level\|base level]], but is often higher for monsters with special properties that might make them tougher.	+	In ''[[NetHack]]'', a '''monster's difficulty''' is a number from 1 to 57 which represents the game's idea of how tough a monster is. It loosely correlates with a monster's [[monster level\|base level]], but is often higher for monsters with special properties that might make them tougher.

	Difficulty is primarily used in the [[normal mechanism]] of monster generation to decide whether a candidate monster is appropriately difficult for the player to encounter. A monster is "too strong" to be randomly generated when its difficulty is greater than the average of your [[experience level]] and your [[dungeon level]]. It is "too weak" to be randomly generated when its difficulty is less than your dungeon level divided by 6, rounded down. (For this purpose, once you have the [[Amulet of Yendor]] your dungeon level is considered to be that of the [[Sanctum]], and in the endgame to be the depth of the Sanctum plus half your experience level.) Most of the less common mechanisms of monster generation do not have similar limits.		Difficulty is primarily used in the [[normal mechanism]] of monster generation to decide whether a candidate monster is appropriately difficult for the player to encounter. A monster is "too strong" to be randomly generated when its difficulty is greater than the average of your [[experience level]] and your [[dungeon level]]. It is "too weak" to be randomly generated when its difficulty is less than your dungeon level divided by 6, rounded down. (For this purpose, once you have the [[Amulet of Yendor]] your dungeon level is considered to be that of the [[Sanctum]], and in the endgame to be the depth of the Sanctum plus half your experience level.) Most of the less common mechanisms of monster generation do not have similar limits.

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 |[[Wizard of Yendor]] ||	1411	||	34
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 |[[Master Kaen]] ||	1095	||	31
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 |[[master mind flayer]] ||	416	||	19
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 |[[jabberwock]] ||	489	||	18