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		<title>Cptschrodinger: Patch question</title>
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		<updated>2007-09-24T07:14:06Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Patch question&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 07:14, 24 September 2007&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l9&quot; &gt;Line 9:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:[http://www.urbandead.com Urban Dead] is ''somewhat'' like that; it's a new game (about a year old) with a large fanbase, and an active wiki. The source is unavailable, and yet people have already figured out item generation probabilities to a [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Search_odds remarkable degree of accuracy]. NetHack is a much, much deeper game, but there's not much that can't be discovered with a little patience and a lot of players. The details of magic cancellation would be tricky.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:[http://www.urbandead.com Urban Dead] is ''somewhat'' like that; it's a new game (about a year old) with a large fanbase, and an active wiki. The source is unavailable, and yet people have already figured out item generation probabilities to a [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Search_odds remarkable degree of accuracy]. NetHack is a much, much deeper game, but there's not much that can't be discovered with a little patience and a lot of players. The details of magic cancellation would be tricky.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:One of the more notable YANIs I've read recently has the DevTeam releasing the next version privately to the /dev/null guys so that the world is forced to compete unspoiled. I like that idea an awful lot. --[[User:Jayt|Jayt]] 14:26, 2 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:One of the more notable YANIs I've read recently has the DevTeam releasing the next version privately to the /dev/null guys so that the world is forced to compete unspoiled. I like that idea an awful lot. --[[User:Jayt|Jayt]] 14:26, 2 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;== Patch question ==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Anyone know if there was ever a patch to add SlashEMs firearms and explosives to vanilla nethack? Those are really the only reason I ever play SlashEM anymore.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;----[[User:Cptschrodinger|Cptschrodinger]] 07:14, 24 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Jayt: /* If NetHack was released today... */</title>
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		<updated>2006-10-02T14:26:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;‎&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;If NetHack was released today...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Imagine this: the game we know as [[NetHack 3.4.3]] did not exist (nor any of its predecessors, like Rogue or Hack). Rather, it was published ''today'' as ''NetHack 1.0''. NetHack is closed source. Rec.games.nethack is established and NetHack immediately gains the user base it currently has in real life, too. Now, I was wondering, how long do you think it would take for anyone to ascend for the first time? Remember, no one would even know about the invocation rituals or anything, you'd just know about the standard message about Moloch and Marduk. Of course, there would be no spoiler files available, and if the game was closed source, they couldn't be generated. The main source of information would pretty much be the Oracle &amp;amp;mdash; and experience; your own and of those who post to rec.games.nethack. The Guidebook would of course be there too. Personally I'd guess it'd take a year or so before the first ascension by anybody. Opinions? Views? Guesses? Or is this just such a ridiculous thought that it should be sucked away by a mind flayer and never spoken about anymore? :) --[[User:ZeroOne|ZeroOne]] 22:26, 1 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Imagine this: the game we know as [[NetHack 3.4.3]] did not exist (nor any of its predecessors, like Rogue or Hack). Rather, it was published ''today'' as ''NetHack 1.0''. NetHack is closed source. Rec.games.nethack is established and NetHack immediately gains the user base it currently has in real life, too. Now, I was wondering, how long do you think it would take for anyone to ascend for the first time? Remember, no one would even know about the invocation rituals or anything, you'd just know about the standard message about Moloch and Marduk. Of course, there would be no spoiler files available, and if the game was closed source, they couldn't be generated. The main source of information would pretty much be the Oracle &amp;amp;mdash; and experience; your own and of those who post to rec.games.nethack. The Guidebook would of course be there too. Personally I'd guess it'd take a year or so before the first ascension by anybody. Opinions? Views? Guesses? Or is this just such a ridiculous thought that it should be sucked away by a mind flayer and never spoken about anymore? :) --[[User:ZeroOne|ZeroOne]] 22:26, 1 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:[http://www.urbandead.com Urban Dead] is ''somewhat'' like that; it's a new game (about a year old) with a large fanbase, and an active wiki. The source is unavailable, and yet people have already figured out item generation probabilities to a [http://wiki.urbandead.com/index.php/Search_odds remarkable degree of accuracy]. NetHack is a much, much deeper game, but there's not much that can't be discovered with a little patience and a lot of players. The details of magic cancellation would be tricky.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:One of the more notable YANIs I've read recently has the DevTeam releasing the next version privately to the /dev/null guys so that the world is forced to compete unspoiled. I like that idea an awful lot. --[[User:Jayt|Jayt]] 14:26, 2 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>ZeroOne: /* If NetHack was released today... */ making it even more clear</title>
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		<updated>2006-10-01T22:32:25Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;‎&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;If NetHack was released today...: &lt;/span&gt; making it even more clear&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== If NetHack was released today... ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;== If NetHack was released today... ==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Imagine this: NetHack 3.4.3 was published as NetHack 1.0 &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;today. There is no such game as Hack&lt;/del&gt;. NetHack is closed source. Rec.games.nethack is established and NetHack immediately gains the user base it currently has in real life, too. Now, I was wondering, how long do you think it would take for anyone to ascend for the first time? Remember, no one would even know about the invocation rituals or &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;so&lt;/del&gt;, you'd just know about the standard message about Moloch and Marduk. Of course, there would be no spoiler files available, and if the game was closed source, they couldn't be generated. The main source of information would pretty much be the Oracle &amp;amp;mdash; and experience; your own and of those who &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;read and &lt;/del&gt;post to rec.games.nethack. The Guidebook would of course be there too. Personally I'd guess it'd take a year or so before the first ascension. Opinions? Views? Guesses? Or is this just such a ridiculous thought that it should be sucked away by a mind flayer and never spoken about anymore? :) --[[User:ZeroOne|ZeroOne]] 22:26, 1 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Imagine this: &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;the game we know as [[&lt;/ins&gt;NetHack 3.4.3&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;]] did not exist (nor any of its predecessors, like Rogue or Hack). Rather, it &lt;/ins&gt;was published &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;''today'' &lt;/ins&gt;as &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;''&lt;/ins&gt;NetHack 1.0&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;''&lt;/ins&gt;. NetHack is closed source. Rec.games.nethack is established and NetHack immediately gains the user base it currently has in real life, too. Now, I was wondering, how long do you think it would take for anyone to ascend for the first time? Remember, no one would even know about the invocation rituals or &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;anything&lt;/ins&gt;, you'd just know about the standard message about Moloch and Marduk. Of course, there would be no spoiler files available, and if the game was closed source, they couldn't be generated. The main source of information would pretty much be the Oracle &amp;amp;mdash; and experience; your own and of those who post to rec.games.nethack. The Guidebook would of course be there too. Personally I'd guess it'd take a year or so before the first ascension &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;by anybody&lt;/ins&gt;. Opinions? Views? Guesses? Or is this just such a ridiculous thought that it should be sucked away by a mind flayer and never spoken about anymore? :) --[[User:ZeroOne|ZeroOne]] 22:26, 1 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>ZeroOne: If NetHack was released today...</title>
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		<updated>2006-10-01T22:26:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;If NetHack was released today...&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Generally it isn't a good thing. Appears under maintenance on things to avoid. [[User:Lotte|Lotte]] 02:16, 1 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Generally it isn't a good thing. Appears under maintenance on things to avoid. [[User:Lotte|Lotte]] 02:16, 1 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;== If NetHack was released today... ==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Imagine this: NetHack 3.4.3 was published as NetHack 1.0 today. There is no such game as Hack. NetHack is closed source. Rec.games.nethack is established and NetHack immediately gains the user base it currently has in real life, too. Now, I was wondering, how long do you think it would take for anyone to ascend for the first time? Remember, no one would even know about the invocation rituals or so, you'd just know about the standard message about Moloch and Marduk. Of course, there would be no spoiler files available, and if the game was closed source, they couldn't be generated. The main source of information would pretty much be the Oracle &amp;amp;mdash; and experience; your own and of those who read and post to rec.games.nethack. The Guidebook would of course be there too. Personally I'd guess it'd take a year or so before the first ascension. Opinions? Views? Guesses? Or is this just such a ridiculous thought that it should be sucked away by a mind flayer and never spoken about anymore? :) --[[User:ZeroOne|ZeroOne]] 22:26, 1 October 2006 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Lotte at 02:16, 1 May 2006</title>
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		<updated>2006-05-01T02:16:15Z</updated>

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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 02:16, 1 May 2006&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Woo. Discussion. Anyway, I was just wondering, what happens if you set a page so it redirects to itself? [[User:Stormy|stormy]] 01:08, 1 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Woo. Discussion. Anyway, I was just wondering, what happens if you set a page so it redirects to itself? [[User:Stormy|stormy]] 01:08, 1 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Generally it isn't a good thing. Appears under maintenance on things to avoid. [[User:Lotte|Lotte]] 02:16, 1 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>WIKIA-Stormy at 01:08, 1 May 2006</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Woo. Discussion. Anyway, I was just wondering, what happens if you set a page so it redirects to itself? [[User:Stormy|stormy]] 01:08, 1 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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