Olog-hai - Revision history

Umbire the Phantom: /* Origin */ small addition

2023-12-14T15:01:25Z

‎Origin: small addition

Umbire the Phantom: followup + traitor + origin

2023-12-14T12:52:18Z

followup + traitor + origin

Umbire the Phantom: /* Generation */ barb quest

2023-12-14T11:21:26Z

‎Generation: barb quest

Loggers: final strats

2023-12-13T15:17:49Z

final strats

Umbire the Phantom: and pending strategy sections for each troll I think we're done!

2023-12-13T14:03:42Z

and pending strategy sections for each troll I think we're done!

Umbire the Phantom: and last but certainly not least!

2023-12-13T11:07:10Z

and last but certainly not least!

Aximili: Individual troll species aren't very distinctive

2019-12-12T05:05:15Z

Individual troll species aren't very distinctive

Aximili: Add encylopedia entry from version 3.6

2019-12-11T07:45:43Z

Add encylopedia entry from version 3.6

Pinkbeast: Shrink. This invites the question of why these two options? Eating because available to all characters regardless of equipment and surroundings; tinning because quick and 100% effective.

2019-11-11T12:33:07Z

Shrink. This invites the question of why these two options? Eating because available to all characters regardless of equipment and surroundings; tinning because quick and 100% effective.

Mormonbrad: Can use a tinning kit on troll corpses.

2019-11-11T12:22:04Z

Can use a tinning kit on troll corpses.

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 ''Dungeons & Dragons'' trolls are typically nine feet tall on average, with rubbery green or gray hide, gaunt and deceptively-thin builds, and long arms that drag across the ground and dangle when running. A troll's hunched posture and uneven gait masks great physical strength and agility: they are fearless fighters that attack relentlessly with their claws and teeth, rarely using weapons, and have the ability to rapidly heal wounds and even animate disembodied parts of themselves, as well as a weakness to fire. Trolls hunt most other living creatures for prey and have no natural predators, though they respect groups that are known to wield fire - both fire and acid were the only ways of counteracting a troll's regenerative abilities.
-In Tolkien's Middle-earth setting, the Olog-hai (a Black Speech term that means "troll folk") were bred by Sauron and Melkor for higher intelligence (by troll standards) and the ability to withstand sunlight, unlike most other trolls in the setting. Sometimes known as "black trolls" (not to be confused with [[black troll]] of ''Dungeons & Dragons''), Olog-hai were among the armies of Sauron's trolls that fought during the War of the Ring, with most of the trolls being killed after the destruction of Sauron's ring and the collapse of Mordor. Some Olog-hai were described as giant and orc-like, surpassing even the Uruk-hai in size and power, and covered in horny scales; they carried hammers and bucklers in their claws.
+In Tolkien's Middle-earth setting, the Olog-hai (a Black Speech term that means "troll folk") were bred by Sauron and Melkor for higher intelligence (by troll standards) and the ability to withstand sunlight, unlike most other trolls in the setting. Sometimes known as "black trolls" (not to be confused with [[black troll]] of ''Dungeons & Dragons''), Olog-hai served the Witch-King while he ruled in Angmar. They were also among the armies of Sauron's trolls that fought during the War of the Ring, with most of the trolls being killed after the destruction of Sauron's ring and the collapse of Mordor. Some Olog-hai were described as giant and orc-like, surpassing even the Uruk-hai in size and power, and covered in horny scales; they carried hammers and bucklers in their claws.
 ==Variants==

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 ==Strategy==
-Olog-hai are essentially a slight upgrade to the rock troll. They hit just as hard, have much better AC, and move as fast as an unhasted unburdened player. However, like their weaker brethren, they have no elemental [[resistance]]s or [[monster magic resistance]] to speak of, meaning many kinds of magical attacks can work well against them, such as [[sleep]] or [[slowing]].
+Olog-hai hit just as hard as rock trolls, but have much better [[AC]] and move just as fast. However, they lack elemental [[resistance]]s like their weaker brethren and have no [[Magic resistance (monster)|MR score]] to speak of: magi such as [[sleep]] or [[slowing]] can work well against them. The same strategies for disposing of troll corpses apply to Olog-hai as well - the more reliable methods such as [[stoning]], feeding them to a [[carnivorous]] pet, or locking them in a [[chest]] or [[large box]] may be preferable, as fighting an Olog-hai repeatedly can wear down all but the most physically adept characters.
 ==History==
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 A troll is a being that appears in Norse mythology and later Scandinavian folklore. In Old Norse sources, beings described as trolls dwell in isolated areas of rock, mountains, or caves, living together in small family units, and were rarely helpful to human beings - the Old Norse nouns ''troll'' and ''trǫll'' are variously used to mean "fiend", "demon", "werewolf", and "jötunn". The trolls of ''NetHack'' are derived from ''Dungeons & Dragons'', whose portrayal of them is partly inspired by [[wikipedia:Poul Anderson|Poul Anderson]] novel ''[[wikipedia:Three Hearts and Three Lions|Three Hearts and Three Lions]]''.
-''D&D'' trolls are typically nine feet tall on average, with rubbery green or gray hide, gaunt and deceptively-thin builds, and long arms that drag across the ground and dangle when running. A troll's hunched posture and uneven gait masks great physical strength and agility: they are fearless fighters that attack relentlessly with their claws and teeth, rarely using weapons, and have the ability to rapidly heal wounds and even animate disembodied parts of themselves, as well as a weakness to fire. Trolls hunt most other living creatures for prey and have no natural predators, though they respect groups that are known to wield fire - both fire and acid were the only ways of counteracting a troll's regenerative abilities.
+''Dungeons & Dragons'' trolls are typically nine feet tall on average, with rubbery green or gray hide, gaunt and deceptively-thin builds, and long arms that drag across the ground and dangle when running. A troll's hunched posture and uneven gait masks great physical strength and agility: they are fearless fighters that attack relentlessly with their claws and teeth, rarely using weapons, and have the ability to rapidly heal wounds and even animate disembodied parts of themselves, as well as a weakness to fire. Trolls hunt most other living creatures for prey and have no natural predators, though they respect groups that are known to wield fire - both fire and acid were the only ways of counteracting a troll's regenerative abilities.
-In Tolkien's Middle-earth setting, the Olog-hai (a Black Speech term that means "troll folk") were bred by Sauron and Melkor for higher intelligence (by troll standards) and the ability to withstand sunlight, unlike most other trolls in the setting. Sometimes known as "black trolls", Olog-hai were among the armies of Sauron's trolls that fought during the War of the Ring, with most of the trolls being killed after the destruction of Sauron's ring and the collapse of Mordor. Some Olog-hai were described as giant and orc-like, surpassing even the Uruk-hai in size and power, and covered in horny scales; they carried hammers and bucklers in their claws.
+In Tolkien's Middle-earth setting, the Olog-hai (a Black Speech term that means "troll folk") were bred by Sauron and Melkor for higher intelligence (by troll standards) and the ability to withstand sunlight, unlike most other trolls in the setting. Sometimes known as "black trolls" (not to be confused with [[black troll]] of ''Dungeons & Dragons''), Olog-hai were among the armies of Sauron's trolls that fought during the War of the Ring, with most of the trolls being killed after the destruction of Sauron's ring and the collapse of Mordor. Some Olog-hai were described as giant and orc-like, surpassing even the Uruk-hai in size and power, and covered in horny scales; they carried hammers and bucklers in their claws.
 ==Variants==
 ===SLASH'EM===
-In [[SLASH'EM]], Olog-hai [[Hits creatures as +x weapon|hit as a +2 weapon]].
+In [[SLASH'EM]], Olog-hai [[Hits creatures as +x weapon|hit as a +2 weapon]], and tame Olog-hai may turn [[traitor]]. They also cannot generate in [[Gehennom]].
 ===dNetHack===

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	Olog-hai may appear among the hostile {{white\|T}} that generate in [[throne room]]s, as well the monsters randomly generated by [[looting]] a [[throne]] while [[confused]] and carrying gold (provided there is no [[chest]] on the level).{{refsrc\|src/mkroom.c\|745\|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}		Olog-hai may appear among the hostile {{white\|T}} that generate in [[throne room]]s, as well the monsters randomly generated by [[looting]] a [[throne]] while [[confused]] and carrying gold (provided there is no [[chest]] on the level).{{refsrc\|src/mkroom.c\|745\|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
		+
		+	Olog-hai can generate among the random {{white\|T}} that are part of the second quest [[monster class]] for [[Barbarian]]s, and make up {{frac\|6\|175}} of the monsters that randomly generate on the [[Barbarian quest]].

	Olog-hai have a {{frac\|2}} chance of [[Monster starting inventory\|being generated with]] a [[ranseur]], [[partisan]], [[glaive]], or [[spetum]], with an equal probability of each polearm.{{refsrc\|src/makemon.c\|439\|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}		Olog-hai have a {{frac\|2}} chance of [[Monster starting inventory\|being generated with]] a [[ranseur]], [[partisan]], [[glaive]], or [[spetum]], with an equal probability of each polearm.{{refsrc\|src/makemon.c\|439\|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}

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	Olog-hai have a {{frac\|2}} chance of [[Monster starting inventory\|being generated with]] a [[ranseur]], [[partisan]], [[glaive]], or [[spetum]], with an equal probability of each polearm.{{refsrc\|src/makemon.c\|439\|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}		Olog-hai have a {{frac\|2}} chance of [[Monster starting inventory\|being generated with]] a [[ranseur]], [[partisan]], [[glaive]], or [[spetum]], with an equal probability of each polearm.{{refsrc\|src/makemon.c\|439\|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
		+
		+	==Strategy==
		+	Olog-hai are essentially a slight upgrade to the rock troll. They hit just as hard, have much better AC, and move as fast as an unhasted unburdened player. However, like their weaker brethren, they have no elemental [[resistance]]s or [[monster magic resistance]] to speak of, meaning many kinds of magical attacks can work well against them, such as [[sleep]] or [[slowing]].
		+
		+	The same strategies apply for getting rid of them; you can [[eat]] them (as can a [[pet]]), [[tin]] them, lock them in a [[box]], throw them into [[pool\|water]] or [[lava]], turn them to [[stone]], or even lure them to the [[rogue level]], where monsters do not drop corpses. Eventually a rock troll will fail its chance to revive, so you can simply fight it over and over until it does, but olog-hai deal enough damage to make this very risky for players without high [[HP]]/[[AC]].

	==History==		==History==

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-An '''Olog-hai''', {{monsym|Olog-hai}}, is a type of [[monster]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. It is the strongest type of [[Troll (monster class)|troll]] in the game, with attacks as strong as those of the [[rock troll]].
+An '''Olog-hai''', {{monsym|Olog-hai}}, is a type of [[monster]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. It is the strongest type of [[Troll (monster class)|troll]] in the game, with attacks as strong as those of the [[rock troll]], and can often [[revive]] from its corpse when killed like all trolls.
 An Olog-hai has a weapon attack, a claw attack and a bite attack.
 ==Generation==
-Randomly generated Olog-hai are always generated hostile.
+Randomly generated Olog-hai are always generated hostile. Hostile Olog-hai can be generated by the [[summon nasties]] [[monster spell]].
 Olog-hai may appear among the hostile {{white|T}} that generate in [[throne room]]s, as well the monsters randomly generated by [[looting]] a [[throne]] while [[confused]] and carrying gold (provided there is no [[chest]] on the level).{{refsrc|src/mkroom.c|745|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
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 In Tolkien's Middle-earth setting, the Olog-hai (a Black Speech term that means "troll folk") were bred by Sauron and Melkor for higher intelligence (by troll standards) and the ability to withstand sunlight, unlike most other trolls in the setting. Sometimes known as "black trolls", Olog-hai were among the armies of Sauron's trolls that fought during the War of the Ring, with most of the trolls being killed after the destruction of Sauron's ring and the collapse of Mordor. Some Olog-hai were described as giant and orc-like, surpassing even the Uruk-hai in size and power, and covered in horny scales; they carried hammers and bucklers in their claws.
 ==Encyclopedia entry==

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−	~~#REDIRECT~~ [[Troll#Olog-hai]]	+	{{monster
		+	\|name=Olog-hai
		+	\|difficulty=16
		+	\|level=13
		+	\|experience=325
		+	\|speed=12
		+	\|AC=−4
		+	\|MR=0
		+	\|align=−7
		+	\|frequency=1
		+	\|genocidable=Yes
		+	\|attacks=Weapon 3d6, claw 2d8, bite 2d6
		+	\|weight=1500
		+	\|nutr=400
		+	\|size=Large
		+	\|resistances=None
		+	\|resistances conveyed=None
		+	\|attributes={{attributes\|Olog-hai\|humanoid=1\|regen=1\|carnivore=1\|strong=1\|stalk=1\|hostile=1\|collect=1\|infravisible=1\|infravision=1}}
		+	\|refline=1826
		+	}}
		+
		+	An '''Olog-hai''', {{monsym\|Olog-hai}}, is a type of [[monster]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. It is the strongest type of [[Troll (monster class)\|troll]] in the game, with attacks as strong as those of the [[rock troll]].
		+
		+	An Olog-hai has a weapon attack, a claw attack and a bite attack.
		+
		+	==Generation==
		+	Randomly generated Olog-hai are always generated hostile.
		+
		+	Olog-hai may appear among the hostile {{white\|T}} that generate in [[throne room]]s, as well the monsters randomly generated by [[looting]] a [[throne]] while [[confused]] and carrying gold (provided there is no [[chest]] on the level).{{refsrc\|src/mkroom.c\|745\|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
		+
		+	Olog-hai have a {{frac\|2}} chance of [[Monster starting inventory\|being generated with]] a [[ranseur]], [[partisan]], [[glaive]], or [[spetum]], with an equal probability of each polearm.{{refsrc\|src/makemon.c\|439\|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
		+
		+	==History==
		+	The Olog-hai first appears in [[NetHack 3.0.0]].
		+
		+	==Origin==
		+	{{wikipedia\|Troll}}
		+	{{wikipedia\|Olog-hai}}
		+	The Olog-hai are a type of troll that originate from the works of [[J.R.R. Tolkien]] set in Middle-earth.
		+
		+	A troll is a being that appears in Norse mythology and later Scandinavian folklore. In Old Norse sources, beings described as trolls dwell in isolated areas of rock, mountains, or caves, living together in small family units, and were rarely helpful to human beings - the Old Norse nouns ''troll'' and ''trǫll'' are variously used to mean "fiend", "demon", "werewolf", and "jötunn". The trolls of ''NetHack'' are derived from ''Dungeons & Dragons'', whose portrayal of them is partly inspired by [[wikipedia:Poul Anderson\|Poul Anderson]] novel ''[[wikipedia:Three Hearts and Three Lions\|Three Hearts and Three Lions]]''.
		+
		+	''D&D'' trolls are typically nine feet tall on average, with rubbery green or gray hide, gaunt and deceptively-thin builds, and long arms that drag across the ground and dangle when running. A troll's hunched posture and uneven gait masks great physical strength and agility: they are fearless fighters that attack relentlessly with their claws and teeth, rarely using weapons, and have the ability to rapidly heal wounds and even animate disembodied parts of themselves, as well as a weakness to fire. Trolls hunt most other living creatures for prey and have no natural predators, though they respect groups that are known to wield fire - both fire and acid were the only ways of counteracting a troll's regenerative abilities.
		+
		+	In Tolkien's Middle-earth setting, the Olog-hai (a Black Speech term that means "troll folk") were bred by Sauron and Melkor for higher intelligence (by troll standards) and the ability to withstand sunlight, unlike most other trolls in the setting. Sometimes known as "black trolls", Olog-hai were among the armies of Sauron's trolls that fought during the War of the Ring, with most of the trolls being killed after the destruction of Sauron's ring and the collapse of Mordor. Some Olog-hai were described as giant and orc-like, surpassing even the Uruk-hai in size and power, and covered in horny scales; they carried hammers and bucklers in their claws.
		+
		+	==Encyclopedia entry==
		+	{{encyclopedia\|
		+	But at the end of the Third Age a troll-race not before seen
		+	appeared in southern Mirkwood and in the mountain borders of
		+	Mordor. Olog-hai they were called in the Black Speech. That
		+	Sauron bred them none doubted, though from what stock was not
		+	known. Some held that they were not Trolls but giant Orcs;
		+	but the Olog-hai were in fashion of body and mind quite unlike
		+	even the largest of Orc-kind, whom they far surpassed in size
		+	and power. Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will
		+	of their master: a fell race, strong, agile, fierce and
		+	cunning, but harder than stone. Unlike the older race of the
		+	Twilight they could endure the Sun.... They spoke little,
		+	and the only tongue they knew was the Black Speech of Barad-dur.
		+	\|[ The Return of the King, by J.R.R. Tolkien ]
		+	}}
		+
		+	==References==
		+	<references/>
		+	{{nethack-367}}
		+	[[Category:Monsters]]

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−	~~{{monster~~	+	#REDIRECT [[Troll#Olog-hai]]
−	~~\|name=Olog-hai~~
−	~~\|difficulty=16~~
−	~~\|level=13~~
−	~~\|experience=325~~
−	~~\|speed=12~~
−	~~\|AC=-4~~
−	~~\|MR=0~~
−	~~\|align=-7~~
−	~~\|frequency=1~~
−	~~\|genocidable=Yes~~
−	~~\|attacks=Weapon 3d6, claw 2d8, bite 2d6~~
−	~~\|weight=1500~~
−	~~\|nutr=400~~
−	~~\|size=Large~~
−	~~\|resistances=None~~
−	~~\|resistances conveyed=None~~
−	~~\|attributes={{attributes\|An Olog-hai\|humanoid=1\|regen=1\|carnivore=1\|strong=1\|stalk=1\|hostile=1\|collect=1\|infravisible=1\|infravision=1}}~~
−	~~\|reference=[[monst.c~~#~~line1821]]~~
−	}}
−
−	~~The '''Olog-hai''', {{monsym\|olog-hai}}, is the most powerful type of [[troll]] in [[NetHack]].~~
−
−	The name is derived from J.R.R Tolkien's works, in which the Olog-Hai were the Hill Trolls, a species of trolls that served the Witch-King while he ruled in Angmar and did not turn to stone in sunlight as many of their contemporaries did.
−	~~Like all trolls, Olog-hai usually [[revive]] after being killed. There are~~ [[Troll#~~Strategy_for_troll_removal\|several ways to prevent this]], such as eating or [[tinning kit\|tinning]] the corpse.~~
−
−
−	~~== Encyclopedia entry ==~~
−	~~{{encyclopedia\|~~
−	~~But at the end of the Third Age a troll-race not before seen~~
−	~~appeared in southern Mirkwood and in the mountain borders of~~
−	~~Mordor.~~ Olog-hai ~~they were called in the Black Speech. That~~
−	~~Sauron bred them none doubted, though from what stock was not~~
−	~~known. Some held that they were not Trolls but giant Orcs;~~
−	~~but the Olog-hai were in fashion of body and mind quite unlike~~
−	~~even the largest of Orc-kind, whom they far surpassed in size~~
−	~~and power. Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will~~
−	~~of their master: a fell race, strong, agile, fierce and~~
−	~~cunning, but harder than stone. Unlike the older race of the~~
−	~~Twilight they could endure the Sun.... They spoke little,~~
−	~~and the only tongue they knew was the Black Speech of Barad-dur.~~
−	~~[ The Return of the King, by J.R.R. Tolkien ]~~
−	}}
−
−	~~{{stub}}~~
−	~~[[Category:Monsters~~]]
−	~~{{nethack-360}}~~

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 The name is derived from J.R.R Tolkien's works, in which the Olog-Hai were the Hill Trolls, a species of trolls that served the Witch-King while he ruled in Angmar and did not turn to stone in sunlight as many of their contemporaries did.
 Like all trolls, Olog-hai usually [[revive]] after being killed. There are [[Troll#Strategy_for_troll_removal|several ways to prevent this]], such as eating or [[tinning kit|tinning]] the corpse.
 {{stub}}
 [[Category:Monsters]]
 {{nethack-360}}