Overlord - Revision history

Schneelocke: I would dispute that that's ''far'' more likely.

2025-12-26T21:26:34Z

I would dispute that that's ''far'' more likely.

Umbire the Phantom: and likewise here

2025-03-05T04:39:22Z

and likewise here

Umbire the Phantom: more sprucing, grunt

2025-03-05T04:37:39Z

more sprucing, grunt

Umbire the Phantom: lede, *dnh

2025-03-05T03:40:05Z

lede, *dnh

Umbire the Phantom: copyedit

2025-03-05T03:36:12Z

copyedit

Umbire the Phantom: Umbire the Phantom moved page M2 PRINCE to Overlord over redirect: likewise, more intuitive

2025-03-04T23:42:58Z

Umbire the Phantom moved page M2 PRINCE to Overlord over redirect: likewise, more intuitive

Ion frigate: I avoided effects because "effects are ... unaffected" sounds silly, but "effects are ... unchanged" is fine

2023-06-14T08:43:31Z

I avoided effects because "effects are ... unaffected" sounds silly, but "effects are ... unchanged" is fine

Ion frigate: minor rephrase

2023-06-14T08:34:08Z

minor rephrase

Ion frigate: mention throne message

2023-06-14T08:33:24Z

mention throne message

Ion frigate: the enchantment is reset (if lower) after the item is generated, and that code doesn't alter the BUC status

2023-06-12T00:36:13Z

the enchantment is reset (if lower) after the item is generated, and that code doesn't alter the BUC status

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 * They gain a +2 [[multishot]] bonus when [[throwing]] or shooting projectiles.{{refsrc|src/mthrowu.c|173|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
-* When generating [[monster starting inventory]], if an overlord has a [[weapon]] attack and no special rules for their species, they are far more likely to receive one of the default weapon sets ({{frac|5|8}}, versus {{frac|2}} for lords and {{frac|5|12}} otherwise).{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|518|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} Their weapon will always have a minimum [[enchantment]] of +1, and their armor will have a minimum enchantment of +0.{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|1952|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
+* When generating [[monster starting inventory]], if an overlord has a [[weapon]] attack and no special rules for their species, they are more likely to receive one of the default weapon sets ({{frac|5|8}}, versus {{frac|2}} for lords and {{frac|5|12}} otherwise).{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|518|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} Their weapon will always have a minimum [[enchantment]] of +1, and their armor will have a minimum enchantment of +0.{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|1952|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
 * When throwing [[projectile]]s, a prince gets a +2 [[multishot]] bonus.{{refsrc|src/mthrowu.c|173|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
 * [[Demon princes]] are [[major demon]]s that are overlords to their kind, and can only be generated by [[demon gating]] from the melee attacks of other demon lords and princes.

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 * They gain a +2 [[multishot]] bonus when [[throwing]] or shooting projectiles.{{refsrc|src/mthrowu.c|173|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
-* When generating [[monster starting inventory]], if an overlord has no special rules for their species, they are far more likely to receive one of the default weapon sets ({{frac|5|8}}, versus {{frac|2}} for lords and {{frac|5|12}} otherwise).{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|518|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} Their weapon will always have a minimum [[enchantment]] of +1, and their armor will have a minimum enchantment of +0.{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|1952|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
+* When generating [[monster starting inventory]], if an overlord has a [[weapon]] attack and no special rules for their species, they are far more likely to receive one of the default weapon sets ({{frac|5|8}}, versus {{frac|2}} for lords and {{frac|5|12}} otherwise).{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|518|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} Their weapon will always have a minimum [[enchantment]] of +1, and their armor will have a minimum enchantment of +0.{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|1952|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
 * When throwing [[projectile]]s, a prince gets a +2 [[multishot]] bonus.{{refsrc|src/mthrowu.c|173|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
 * [[Demon princes]] are [[major demon]]s that are overlords to their kind, and can only be generated by [[demon gating]] from the melee attacks of other demon lords and princes.
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 ===GruntHack===
 {{main|King (GruntHack)}}
-In [[GruntHack]], kings are monster overlords that are used to create monster overlords via [[racial monster]] templates.
+In [[GruntHack]], kings and queens are used to create monster overlords via [[racial monster]] templates.
 ===dNetHack===

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-An '''overlord''' is a type of [[monster]] in ''[[NetHack]]'' that is considered to have a position of rulership among other monsters of the same kind or class, placing them above monster [[Lord (monster attribute)|lords]], and is designated by the <tt>'''M2_PRINCE'''</tt> monster flag (and the <tt>is_prince()</tt> macro that queries it).
+An '''overlord''' is a type of [[monster]] in ''[[NetHack]]'' that is considered to have a position of rulership among other monsters of the same kind or class, placing them above those monsters and even monster [[Lord (monster attribute)|lords]], and is designated by the <tt>'''M2_PRINCE'''</tt> monster flag (and the <tt>is_prince()</tt> macro that queries it).
 ==Description==
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 * They gain a +2 [[multishot]] bonus when [[throwing]] or shooting projectiles.{{refsrc|src/mthrowu.c|173|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
-* When generating [[monster starting inventory]], if an overlord has no special rules for its species, it is far more likely to receive one of the default weapon sets ({{frac|5|8}}, versus {{frac|2}} for lords and {{frac|5|12}} otherwise).{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|518|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} Their weapon will always have a minimum [[enchantment]] of +1, and their armor will have a minimum enchantment of +0.{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|1952|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
+* When generating [[monster starting inventory]], if an overlord has no special rules for their species, they are far more likely to receive one of the default weapon sets ({{frac|5|8}}, versus {{frac|2}} for lords and {{frac|5|12}} otherwise).{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|518|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} Their weapon will always have a minimum [[enchantment]] of +1, and their armor will have a minimum enchantment of +0.{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|1952|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
 * When throwing [[projectile]]s, a prince gets a +2 [[multishot]] bonus.{{refsrc|src/mthrowu.c|173|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
-* [[Demon princes]] are [[major demon]]s that are overlords to their kind&mdash;they can only be generated by [[demon gating]] from the melee attacks of other demon lords and princes.
+* [[Demon princes]] are [[major demon]]s that are overlords to their kind, and can only be generated by [[demon gating]] from the melee attacks of other demon lords and princes.
 * A [[hero]] in the form of a monster overlord receives a different message from having no effect when [[sitting]] on a [[throne]].
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 * Monster overlords are often seen ruling over [[throne room]]s&mdash;the monsters that are eligible to be placed on the throne are all overlords.
 ===List of monsters===
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 ==Variants==
 ===dNetHack===
 In [[dNetHack]], [[notdNetHack]] and [[notnotdNetHack]], monster overlords are designated by the <tt>'''MG_PRINCE'''</tt> monster flag.
 ==References==

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-An '''overlord''' is a type of [[monster]] in ''[[NetHack]]'' that is considered to have a position of rulership among other monsters of the same kind or class, placing them above monster [[Lord (monster attribute)|lords]], and is designated by the  the <tt>'''M2_PRINCE'''</tt> monster flag (and the <tt>is_prince()</tt> macro that queries it).
+An '''overlord''' is a type of [[monster]] in ''[[NetHack]]'' that is considered to have a position of rulership among other monsters of the same kind or class, placing them above monster [[Lord (monster attribute)|lords]], and is designated by the <tt>'''M2_PRINCE'''</tt> monster flag (and the <tt>is_prince()</tt> macro that queries it).
 ==Description==
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 {{message|You feel very comfortable here.|You sat on a throne while in the form of a monster that is an overlord to its kind.}}
 {{upcoming|3.7.0|The above message is also printed if the hero has been [[crowned]].}}
 ==See also==

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-{{DISPLAYTITLE:M2_PRINCE}}
+An '''overlord''' is a type of [[monster]] in ''[[NetHack]]'' that is considered to have a position of rulership among other monsters of the same kind or class, placing them above monster [[Lord (monster attribute)|lords]], and is designated by the  the <tt>'''M2_PRINCE'''</tt> monster flag (and the <tt>is_prince()</tt> macro that queries it).
-==List of monsters==
+==Description==
 The following monsters are princes:
 * {{monsymlink|queen bee}}
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 * {{monsymlink|Demogorgon}}
-==Description==
+==Messages==
-Being a prince has the following effects:
+{{message|You feel very comfortable here.|You sat on a throne while in the form of a monster that is an overlord to its kind.}}
-* A prince that can wield weapons and has no special rules for its species is [[monster starting inventory#weapons|much more likely to receive a weapon]].{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|518|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
+{{upcoming|3.7.0|The above message is also printed if the hero has been [[crowned]].}}
 ==See also==
-* [[M2_LORD]]
+* [[Lord (monster attribute)]]
 ==References==

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 * A prince's weapon will always be at least +1, and its armor will be at least +0.{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|1952|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}  Note that their equipment still has the usual chance of being [[cursed]].
 * [[Demon summoning]] by same-race sacrifice cannot summon a demon prince. Only [[demon lords and princes]] can summon demon princes with their melee attacks.
-* [[Sitting]] on a [[throne]] with no effect produces a different message, namely ''"You feel very comfortable here"'' instead of ''"You feel somehow out of place..."''; this is purely cosmetic - the tangible results from sitting on a throne are unchanged.
+* [[Sitting]] on a [[throne]] with no effect produces a different message, namely ''"You feel very comfortable here"'' instead of ''"You feel somehow out of place..."''; this is purely cosmetic - the tangible effects of sitting on a throne are unchanged.
 ==See also==