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Umbire the Phantom: word choice

2026-07-20T19:38:30Z

word choice

Tomsod: /* Choices of steed / fast jabberwocks are 124/3=16 speed

2025-10-24T07:23:39Z

‎Choices of steed: fast jabberwocks are 12*4/3=16 speed

Umbire the Phantom: cite

2025-05-24T14:40:14Z

cite

Umbire the Phantom: /* Messages */ forgot to mention that one lol

2025-05-24T14:39:40Z

‎Messages: forgot to mention that one lol

Nabru: Message I had never seen before

2025-05-24T14:37:43Z

Message I had never seen before

Umbire the Phantom: /* How to ride */ citations

2025-04-12T23:40:59Z

‎How to ride: citations

Umbire the Phantom: pothole

2025-01-16T17:30:57Z

pothole

Phol ende wodan: /* Bonuses and penalties */ you can #monster to make a steed use its breath weapon in 3.7

2024-12-13T01:27:54Z

‎Bonuses and penalties: you can #monster to make a steed use its breath weapon in 3.7

Umbire the Phantom: start copyedit pas

2024-11-07T16:14:32Z

start copyedit pas

Ion frigate: not a percentage (thresholds are 20/80/180); clarify that it doesn't reset when you dismount

2024-11-05T02:01:05Z

not a percentage (thresholds are 20/80/180); clarify that it doesn't reset when you dismount

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 While riding, the hero cannot dip objects in pools unless you are on a [[flying]] or [[swimming]] steed; dipping into [[fountain]]s will work as normal. Levitation will always dismount the hero, with the exception of [[The Heart of Ahriman]]: [[invoking]] the artifact while riding will levitate the steed along with them.
-[[Kick]]ing while on your steed will prompt you if you want to kick your steed - kicking a steed or whipping it has a chance of cauing it to gallop, which increases its base movement speed by {{frac|3|2}} (or 50%) before applying variance.<ref name="gallop"/> Beware that your steed may untame and/or buck you off if unsuccessful.
+[[Kick (command)|Kicking]] while the hero is on a steed will prompt the player if they want to kick that steed&mdash;kicking a steed or whipping it has a chance of causing it to gallop, which increases its base movement speed by {{frac|3|2}} (or 50%) before applying variance.<ref name="gallop"/> Beware that the steed may untame and/or buck the hero off if this is unsuccessful.
 Setting traps while riding has a chance of failure, but the chance can be greatly minimized with good [[Luck]], and you will be warned before applying the trap{{refsrc|src/apply.c|2557|nethack=3.6.7}}—[[fumbling]] or using a cursed trap will increase the chance of failure. Failing to set a [[beartrap]] causes it to drop harmlessly to the floor, but failure to set a [[land mine]] will detonate it instead.{{refsrc|src/apply.c|2571|nethack=3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/apply.c|2575|nethack=3.6.7}}

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 * [[Unicorn]]: All unicorns have the same base speed as the warhorse and similarly solid damage, but taming one initially is somewhat more difficult. They have intrinsic [[poison resistance]] and the ability to cure many other status ailments using their [[unicorn horn|horn]].
 * [[Dragon]]: All dragons are carnivorous and thus easy to keep fed, and can be acquired via [[egg]], including ones laid while polymorphed into a dragon. They are capable of flight and have good AC, but have low movement speed at 9 (12 after gaining intrinsic speed). Dragons also have valuable intrinsics based on their color—gray and silver dragons are notable for their immunity to death rays, and silver dragons can additionally reflect other rays aimed at you.
-* [[Jabberwock]]: The jabberwock lacks the dragon's breath weapon, scales and intrinsics, but has stellar hit dice and damage with 4 2d10 attacks, as well as a better base speed of 12 (18 when fast).
+* [[Jabberwock]]: The jabberwock lacks the dragon's breath weapon, scales and intrinsics, but has stellar hit dice and damage with four 2d10 attacks, as well as a better base speed of 12 (16 when fast).
 * [[Ki-rin]]: Ki-rin are naturally fast at 18 base speed, capable of flight, and can cast healing spells on itself. However, they are very rare and difficult to tame—they are also inediate and thus cannot be fed, meaning that they will eventually untame. As such, they are primarily if not entirely sought out by Knights. Due to their high monster magic resistance, they will always resist conflict unless drained below level 15.
 * [[Centaur (monster class)|Centaur]]: Mountain centaurs are the strongest type of centaur, but overall they are are still slower than warhorses and unicorns (20 base speed vs. their 24). In exchange, centaurs are omnivorous and thus much easier to keep fed, and can even equip a [[shield of reflection]] and a weapon. As with most meat-eating steeds, they are at serious risk if allowed to eat a corpse that shapeshifts them - their maximum level and HP are quite low, meaning that a long-term centaur steed will require [[wraith]] corpses and {{! of|gain level}} potions to keep up.

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 * You are already riding.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|198|nethack=3.6.7}}
-* You are [[hallucinating]].{{refsrc|src/steed.c|204|nethack=3.6.7}}
+* You are [[hallucinating]].{{refsrc|src/steed.c|204|nethack=3.6.7|name="buzzedriding"}}
 * Your have [[wounded legs]].{{refsrc|src/steed.c|221|nethack=3.6.7}}
 * You are in a form that is non-[[humanoid]], [[slithy]], too small, or too large.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|229|nethack=3.6.7}}
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 {{message|You've been through the dungeon on a <steed> with no name.|You dismounted an unnamed steed.}}
 {{message|It felt good to get out of the rain.|As above, while hallucinating&mdash;both lines are a reference to the song "[[wikipedia:A Horse with No Name|A Horse with No Name]]".}}
-{{message|Maybe you should find a designated driver.|You tried to mount a steed while hallucinating.}}
+{{message|Maybe you should find a designated driver.|You tried to mount a steed while hallucinating.<ref name="buzzedriding"/>}}
 ==Variants==

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 ==Messages==
 {{message|You've been through the dungeon on a <steed> with no name.|You dismounted an unnamed steed.}}
-{{message|It felt good to get out of the rain.|As above, while hallucinating - both lines are a reference to the song "[[wikipedia:A Horse with No Name|A Horse with No Name]]".}}
+{{message|It felt good to get out of the rain.|As above, while hallucinating&mdash;both lines are a reference to the song "[[wikipedia:A Horse with No Name|A Horse with No Name]]".}}
 ==Variants==

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 ==Messages==
 {{message|You've been through the dungeon on a <steed> with no name.|You dismounted an unnamed steed.}}
 {{message|It felt good to get out of the rain.|As above, while hallucinating - both lines are a reference to the song "[[wikipedia:A Horse with No Name|A Horse with No Name]]".}}

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 ===Suitable steeds===
-Eligible monsters for saddling ''and'' riding include:
+Eligible monsters for saddling ''and'' riding include:{{refsrc|src/steed.c|26|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/steed.c|162|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
 * All {{mcsl|q}}
 * All {{mcsl|u}}
 * All {{mcsl|C}}
-* All {{mcsl|D}} except {{monsymlink|Ixoth}} and the {{monsymlink|Chromatic Dragon}}
+* All {{mcsl|D}} except {{monsymlink|Ixoth}} and the {{monsymlink|Chromatic Dragon}}{{refsrc|src/steed.c|96|nethack=3.6.7|name=nottame|comment=Ixoth and the Chromatic Dragon can be saddled, but as they are untameable, they cannot be ridden}}
 * All {{mcsl|J}}
 * {{monsymlink|Ki-rin}} and {{monsymlink|couatl}}s
-Monsters are saddled by standing next to them and [[apply]]ing a saddle in their direction—it is possible to saddle a non-tame monster, but this is much more difficult than saddling a pet, and the hero will not be able to ride the monster until it is tamed.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|96|nethack=3.6.7|name=nottame|comment=Ixoth and the Chromatic Dragon can be saddled, but as they are untameable, they cannot be ridden}} [[Minion]]s cannot be saddled regardless of eligibility.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|83|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
+Monsters are saddled by standing next to them and [[apply]]ing a saddle in their direction—it is possible to saddle a non-tame monster, but this is much more difficult than saddling a pet, and the hero will not be able to ride the monster until it is tamed.<ref name="nottame"/> [[Minion]]s cannot be saddled regardless of eligibility.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|83|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
 ===Conditions for mounting===

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 If you are riding on a steed that is not [[flying]], moving over [[ice]] has a chance of causing you to slip off your saddle, and riding down [[stairs]] while [[burdened]] or else removing the saddle while you are on it (i.e. via the knock spell or wand of opening) will always cause you to fall off; both of these cases will leave you with [[wounded legs]]. If your steed consumes a corpse that causes them to polymorph into an illegible form for riding - including the temporary polymorph from eating a [[mimic]] - you will be harmlessly forced off your steed.
-Theft attacks from monsters such as [[nymph]]s and [[foocubi]] that hit your steed can steal the saddle off their backs, forcibly dismounting you if you were riding them at the time. [[Engulfing]] attacks that hit you will forcibly dismount you from your steed if you are riding.
+Theft attacks from monsters such as [[Nymph (monster class)|nymphs]] and [[foocubi]] that hit your steed can steal the saddle off their backs, forcibly dismounting you if you were riding them at the time. [[Engulfing]] attacks that hit you will forcibly dismount you from your steed if you are riding.
 Invoking [[conflict]] while riding may cause your steed to throw you off, subject to your steed's [[magic resistance (monster)|MR score]].

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	A minimum of Basic skill is required for the hero to pick objects up from the floor while riding; they cannot eat food that is on the ground, though a [[tinning kit]] can still be applied to [[corpse]]s without dismounting.		A minimum of Basic skill is required for the hero to pick objects up from the floor while riding; they cannot eat food that is on the ground, though a [[tinning kit]] can still be applied to [[corpse]]s without dismounting.
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		+	{{upcoming\|NetHack 3.7.0\|If the steed has a breath weapon, you can use the [[#monster]] command (assuming you are not in a polyform that already has one) to make the steed use its breath weapon. {{commit\|6e09c980}}}}

	==Movement limitations and other properties==		==Movement limitations and other properties==

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-'''Riding''' is an ability in ''[[NetHack]]'' that requires the [[hero]] to have a [[saddle]] and a suitable choice of [[pet]], and also has a [[skill]] associated with it. While any hero is capable of riding, it tends to be commonly associated with [[Knight]]s, who begin the game with a saddled [[pony]] and Basic level in the riding skill.
+'''Riding''' is a [[skill]] and ability in ''[[NetHack]]'' that allows the [[hero]] to ride [[pet]] monsters, and requires a [[saddle]] and a suitable choice of pet as a '''steed'''.
 ==How to ride==
-To ride a monster, you must use the '''#ride''' [[command]] in the direction of a tamed saddled monster, and use the command again while riding to dismount. You must be in a humanoid form that is not too big or small to fit on a saddle in order to ride. Riding a monster will decrease its tameness with each mount, unless you are a Knight.
+To ride a monster, the hero must use the '''#ride''' [[command]] in the direction of a tamed saddled monster, and use the command again while riding to dismount. The hero must be in a humanoid form that is not too big or small to fit on a saddle in order to ride. Riding a monster will decrease its tameness with each mount, unless the hero is a Knight.
 ===Suitable steeds===
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 * {{monsymlink|Ki-rin}} and {{monsymlink|couatl}}s
-Monsters are saddled by standing next to them and [[apply]]ing a saddle in their direction—it is possible to saddle a non-tame monster, but this is much more difficult than saddling a pet, and you will not be able to ride the monster until it is tamed.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|96|nethack=3.6.7|name=nottame|comment=Ixoth and the Chromatic Dragon can be saddled, but as they are untameable, they cannot be ridden}} [[Minion]]s cannot be saddled regardless of eligibility.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|83|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
+Monsters are saddled by standing next to them and [[apply]]ing a saddle in their direction—it is possible to saddle a non-tame monster, but this is much more difficult than saddling a pet, and the hero will not be able to ride the monster until it is tamed.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|96|nethack=3.6.7|name=nottame|comment=Ixoth and the Chromatic Dragon can be saddled, but as they are untameable, they cannot be ridden}} [[Minion]]s cannot be saddled regardless of eligibility.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|83|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
 ===Conditions for mounting===
-You cannot attempt to mount a steed if any of the following conditions apply:
+The hero cannot attempt to mount a steed if any of the following conditions apply:
 * You are already riding.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|198|nethack=3.6.7}}
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 * You are wearing [[eroded]] [[metallic]] body armor.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|317|nethack=3.6.7}}
-If none of these conditions apply, but you are not a Knight and the attempt untames the steed, then your attempt fails and makes the steed peaceful or hostile as appropriate, also causing them to free themselves from any [[leash]] applied to them.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|292|nethack=3.6.7}}
+If none of these conditions apply, but the hero is not a Knight and the attempt untames the steed, then your attempt fails and makes the steed peaceful or hostile as appropriate, and causes them to pull free from any [[leash]] applied to them.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|292|nethack=3.6.7}}
-Otherwise, the chance of your attempt to mount your steed succeeding is (5 &times; (your [[experience level]] + steed's [[tameness]])) percent, with the following bonuses and penalties applied during calculation:
+Otherwise, the chance of the attempt to mount a steed succeeding is (5 &times; ([[experience level]] + steed's [[tameness]])) percent, with the following bonuses and penalties applied during calculation:
 * You gain a bonus or penalty based on your skill level in riding:
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 * If your steed's saddle is [[cursed]], you take a -50 penalty; this typically does not matter, since you will automatically fail your attempt if this applies.<ref name="autofail"/>
-In summary, if the sum of your mount's tameness and your XL is greater than or equal to 20, you will not slip when you mount unless there is another problem as listed above. If your attempt fails, you will slip while trying to get on your intended steed and lose 10&ndash;14 hit points.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|323|nethack=3.6.7|name="autofail"}} If an attempt fails while you are levitating and able to come down at will, you will not take any damage.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|325|nethack=3.6.7}}
+In summary, if the sum of the mount's tameness and the hero's experience level is greater than or equal to 20, they will not slip off the mount unless any of the problems listed above apply. If the attempt fails, the hero will slip while trying to get on the steed and lose 10&ndash;14 hit points.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|323|nethack=3.6.7|name="autofail"}} If an attempt fails while they are levitating and able to come down at will, you will not take any damage.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|325|nethack=3.6.7}}
 {{upcoming|3.7.0|As of {{commit|ac5b92d3487ba36a3b3dccb79376f29b2b132c9d}}, a greased saddle will always cause you to slip off.}}
 ===Bonuses and penalties===
-While riding, your carrying capacity will be set to maximum, and your movement [[speed]] is set to that of the steed (e.g., a [[horse]] is as fast as a character wearing [[speed boots]], and a warhorse is even faster). However, many of your other actions—fighting, quaffing, reading, zapping, and engraving while riding—still rely on your own movement speed.
+While riding, the hero's carrying capacity will be set to maximum, and their movement [[speed]] is set to that of the steed (e.g., a [[horse]] is as fast as a character wearing [[speed boots]], and a warhorse is even faster). However, many of the hero's other actions—fighting, quaffing, reading, zapping, and engraving while riding—still rely on their own movement speed.
-Your steed will be more passive while riding—it will not pick up items, will not react if riding over cursed items, and will not actively attack monsters. However, monster attacks have a chance of falling upon your steed, which always causes them to counterattack - this has a {{frac|2}} chance of occurring for [[Orc (monster class)|orcs]], and a {{frac|4}} chance otherwise.{{refsrc|src/mhitu.c|403|version=NetHack 3.6.7|comment=comment states that orcs like to steal and eat horses}} You can also use [[polearms]] effectively at close range while riding.
+A steed will be more passive while the hero riding—it will not pick up items, will not react if riding over cursed items, and will not actively attack monsters. However, monster attacks have a chance of falling upon the steed, which always causes them to counterattack - this has a {{frac|2}} chance of occurring for [[Orc (monster class)|orcs]] attacking the mounted hero, and a {{frac|4}} chance otherwise.{{refsrc|src/mhitu.c|403|version=NetHack 3.6.7|comment=comment states that orcs like to steal and eat horses}} Heroes can also use [[polearms]] effectively at close range while riding.
-A character riding at Unskilled level has a &minus;2 [[to-hit]] penalty—Basic skill reduces the penalty to &minus;1, and [[twoweapon]]ing always adds an additional &minus;2 to-hit on top of any other penalties. Riding at Skilled level or higher gives a +1 damage bonus, and Skilled level also gives a +1 to-hit bonus to non-twoweapon combat.{{refsrc|src/weapon.c|1468|nethack=3.6.7}} Higher skill ranks also improve rates of success for saddling, mounting, dismounting, and goading the steed to gallop.
+A hero riding at Unskilled level has a &minus;2 [[to-hit]] penalty—Basic skill reduces the penalty to &minus;1, and [[twoweapon]]ing always adds an additional &minus;2 to-hit on top of any other penalties. Riding at Skilled level or higher gives a +1 damage bonus, and Skilled level also gives a +1 to-hit bonus to non-twoweapon combat.{{refsrc|src/weapon.c|1468|nethack=3.6.7}} Higher skill ranks also improve rates of success for saddling, mounting, dismounting, and goading the steed to gallop.
-A minimum of Basic skill is required in order to pick objects up from the floor while riding. You cannot eat food that is on the ground, though a [[tinning kit]] can still be applied to [[corpse]]s without dismounting.
+A minimum of Basic skill is required for the hero to pick objects up from the floor while riding; they cannot eat food that is on the ground, though a [[tinning kit]] can still be applied to [[corpse]]s without dismounting.
 ==Movement limitations and other properties==
-While riding, you cannot dip objects in pools unless you are on a [[flying]] or [[swimming]] steed; dipping into [[fountain]]s will work as normal. Levitation will always dismount you, with the exception of [[The Heart of Ahriman]]: [[invoking]] the artifact while riding will levitate the steed along with you.
+While riding, the hero cannot dip objects in pools unless you are on a [[flying]] or [[swimming]] steed; dipping into [[fountain]]s will work as normal. Levitation will always dismount the hero, with the exception of [[The Heart of Ahriman]]: [[invoking]] the artifact while riding will levitate the steed along with them.
 [[Kick]]ing while on your steed will prompt you if you want to kick your steed - kicking a steed or whipping it has a chance of cauing it to gallop, which increases its base movement speed by {{frac|3|2}} (or 50%) before applying variance.<ref name="gallop"/> Beware that your steed may untame and/or buck you off if unsuccessful.

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 The '''riding skill''' is not required to ride a monster, but has an effect on your ability to fight and perform other actions while riding. The success of saddling, mounting, dismounting, and goading the steed to [[gallop]] are determined by your skill level in riding.
-It takes 101 steps while riding to exercise the riding skill by 1 percent (e.g. it takes 2020 steps to train the skill enough that you can go from Unskilled to Basic){{refsrc|src/steed.c|363|nethack=3.6.7|comment=<code>exercise_steed</code> function; increment is postfix rather than prefix, so it takes 101 turns rather than 100}}—keep in mind that most ridable monsters are faster than the "default" speed of 12.
+It takes 101 steps while riding to exercise the riding skill by 1 skill point (e.g. it takes 2020 steps to train the skill enough that you can go from Unskilled to Basic){{refsrc|src/steed.c|363|nethack=3.6.7|comment=<code>exercise_steed</code> function; increment is postfix rather than prefix, so it takes 101 turns rather than 100}}—keep in mind that most ridable monsters are faster than the "default" speed of 12.  This timer is paused rather than reset when you dismount, so you will not lose "credit" towards your next skill point.
 ===Bonuses and penalties===