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Umbire the Phantom: finally remove wumpus stuff because none of that is wumpus exclusive, move levitation advice, upcoming, etc.

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‎Messages: Adding message for stopping wumpus riding via levitation

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 ===Removing a saddle===
-To remove a saddle from a monster while not riding it, use the #[[loot]] command, a {{+ of|knock}} spell, or a [[wand of opening]]&mdash;unusually, using magic to remove the saddle from a steed will not dismount the hero if they are riding it at that time. If the saddled monster is [[polymorph]]ed into a form ineligible to be a steed, the saddle will fall off and safely dismount the hero if they were riding, and a steed that polymorphs from eating a [[mimic]] will dismount a riding hero without the saddle falling off.{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1030|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
+To remove a saddle from a monster while not riding it, use the #[[loot]] command, a {{+ of|knock}} spell, or a [[wand of opening]]&mdash;unusually, using magic to remove the saddle from a steed will not dismount the hero if they are riding it at that time. If the saddled monster is [[polymorph]]ed into a form ineligible to be a steed, the saddle will fall off and safely dismount the hero if they were riding, and a steed that polymorphs from eating the flesh of a [[mimic]] will dismount a riding hero without the saddle falling off.{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1030|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
 Theft attacks from monsters such as [[Nymph (monster class)|nymphs]] and [[foocubi]] that hit a saddled steed can steal the saddle off their backs, forcibly dismounting a hero that is riding. Cursed saddles cannot be removed via looting, and a hero cannot mount a monster equipped with a cursed saddle; if the saddle is cursed while they are riding, it will also prevent manual dismounting.

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+A '''saddle''' is a type of [[tool]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]'', and is designed to allow for [[riding]]. It is made of [[leather]].
 ==Generation==
-The [[Knight]] starts each game with a saddled pony.{{refsrc|src/dog.c|191|nethack=3.6.7}}
+[[Knight]]s start each game with a saddled pony.{{refsrc|src/dog.c|191|nethack=3.6.7}}
 Saddles are quite rare, and make up {{frac|200}} (0.5%) of all randomly-generated tools. General [[shop]]s and hardware shops can sell saddles.
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 A saddle is always generated uncursed, with the exception of player [[bones]] and [[trap]] "bones".
-{{upcoming|3.7.0|Per {{commit|a1d5464fa7daf58bc5067a720b21747cae6d0782}}, the [[Knight quest]] home level will generate some saddled warhorses at level creation.}}
+{{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|Per {{commit|a1d5464fa7daf58bc5067a720b21747cae6d0782}}, the [[Knight quest]] home level will generate some saddled warhorses at level creation.
 ==Description==
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 Theft attacks from monsters such as [[Nymph (monster class)|nymphs]] and [[foocubi]] that hit a saddled steed can steal the saddle off their backs, forcibly dismounting a hero that is riding. Cursed saddles cannot be removed via looting, and a hero cannot mount a monster equipped with a cursed saddle; if the saddle is cursed while they are riding, it will also prevent manual dismounting.
-{{upcoming|3.7.0|Per {{commit|0cca010ff1a511133c04c24e65142022bed5aec3}}, using opening magic to remove a saddle from a steed while riding it will cause the hero to fall off that saddle, inflicting [[wounded legs]].}}
+{{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|Per {{commit|0cca010ff1a511133c04c24e65142022bed5aec3}}, using opening magic to remove a saddle from a steed while riding it will cause the hero to fall off that saddle, inflicting [[wounded legs]].}}
 ==Strategy==
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 For players dealing with a cursed saddle that do not want to risk polymorphing their steed, [[pray]]ing to their god can uncurse the saddle, and they can force themselves to fall off through the following methods:
-* Feed your steed a mimic [[corpse]], or eat a mimic corpse or tin yourself - the temporary transformation will forcibly dismount the hero in either case.
+* Feed your steed a mimic [[corpse]], or eat a mimic corpse or tin yourself&mdash;the temporary transformation will forcibly dismount the hero in either case.
 * If riding on a steed that is not [[flying]]:
 ** Moving over [[ice]] has a chance of causing the character to slip off the saddle.
-** Riding down [[stairs]] while [[burdened]], or else removing the saddle while the character is on it (i.e. via the knock spell or wand of opening), will always cause them to fall off - both cases will leave them with [[wounded legs]].
+** Riding down [[stairs]] while [[burdened]], or else removing the saddle while the character is on it (i.e. via the knock spell or wand of opening), will always cause them to fall off&mdash;both cases will leave them with [[wounded legs]].
 ** Have a monster steal the saddle from the horse.
-** Being [[engulfed]] by an [[animal]] will forcibly dismount the character from their steed if they are riding.
+** Being [[engulfed]] by an [[animal]] will forcibly dismount the hero from their steed if they are riding.
 ** Use [[levitation]] to float away from the saddle.
 Nymphs, foocubi and other monsters with theft attacks are especially dangerous if riding a steed over [[water]] or [[lava]], usually by means of the steed's [[flight]]: being forcibly dismounted can lead to [[instadeath]] by drowning in the water or being dissolved in the lava. However, this can also be used to remove a steed's cursed saddle and uncurse it normally once it is retrieved.
-{{upcoming|3.7.0|Per {{commit|cf62687630184fa44e2993e26864033e88883784}}, the spell and scroll of remove curse can uncurse a cursed saddle that the character is stuck on, since a steed's saddle is considered part of the character's inventory while riding. Per {{commit|0cca010ff1a511133c04c24e65142022bed5aec3}}, a character will not take damage or suffer wounded legs if thrown from a saddle while they have levitation or flying.}}
+{{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|Per {{commit|cf62687630184fa44e2993e26864033e88883784}}, the spell and scroll of remove curse can uncurse a cursed saddle that the hero is stuck on, since a steed's saddle is considered part of the hero's inventory while riding. Per {{commit|0cca010ff1a511133c04c24e65142022bed5aec3}}, a hero will not take damage or suffer wounded legs if thrown from a saddle while they have levitation or flying.}}
 ==History==
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 ==Messages==
 {{message|Saddle yourself? Very funny...|You attempted to apply a saddle on your own square.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|53|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}}}
 {{message|Shame on you!|You attempted to apply a saddle to a foocubus.<ref name="shame"/>}}
-{{message|I think <foo> would mind.|You attempted to apply a saddle to an "always peaceful" human, a [[minion]] or the [[Wizard of Yendor]].<ref name="noride"/>}}
+{{message|I think <the monster> would mind.|You attempted to apply a saddle to an "always peaceful" human, a [[minion]] or the [[Wizard of Yendor]].<ref name="noride"/>}}
-{{message|You can't saddle such a creature.|You attempted to apply a saddle to an ineligible type of monster.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|89|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}}}
+{{message|You can't saddle such a creature.|You attempted to apply a saddle to another ineligible type of monster.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|89|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}}}
 ==Variants==

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 {{message|I think <foo> would mind.|You attempted to apply a saddle to an "always peaceful" human, a [[minion]] or the [[Wizard of Yendor]].<ref name="noride"/>}}
 {{message|You can't saddle such a creature.|You attempted to apply a saddle to an ineligible type of monster.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|89|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}}}
 ==Variants==

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 ** Have a monster steal the saddle from the horse.
 ** Being [[engulfed]] by an [[animal]] will forcibly dismount the character from their steed if they are riding.
 Nymphs, foocubi and other monsters with theft attacks are especially dangerous if riding a steed over [[water]] or [[lava]], usually by means of the steed's [[flight]]: being forcibly dismounted can lead to [[instadeath]] by drowning in the water or being dissolved in the lava. However, this can also be used to remove a steed's cursed saddle and uncurse it normally once it is retrieved.

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 * All {{monclass|J}}s
-Attempting to saddle a [[minion]] will always fail, regardless of if that monster is otherwise eligible.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|83|version=NetHack 3.6.7|name="noride"}} Attempting to saddle a [[footrice]] will always fail, and if the hero is not wearing [[gloves]], they are either [[Stoning|turned to stone]] or, if they are in the form of a [[golem]], are turned into a [[stone golem]].{{refsrc|src/steed.c|69|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} Attempting to saddle a [[foocubus]] will always fail, producing [[YAFM|a unique message]], and [[abuse]]s [[wisdom]].{{refsrc|src/steed.c|78|version=NetHack 3.6.7|name=shame}}
+Attempting to saddle a [[minion]] will always fail, regardless of if that monster is otherwise eligible.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|83|version=NetHack 3.6.7|name="noride"}} Attempting to saddle a [[footrice]] will always fail and either [[Stoning|turn the hero to stone]] if they are not wearing [[gloves]], and if they are in the form of a [[golem]] with no worn gloves they will become a [[stone golem]].{{refsrc|src/steed.c|69|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} Attempting to saddle a [[foocubus]] will always fail, producing [[YAFM|a unique message]], and [[abuse]]s [[wisdom]].{{refsrc|src/steed.c|78|version=NetHack 3.6.7|name=shame}}
 If a hero or their steed has [[reflection]], the saddle will be protected from [[disintegration]] rays (though the steed may not be in the former case).

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 }}
-A '''saddle''' is a type of [[tool]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. It is used to [[ride]] tamed [[monster]]s, and is made of [[leather]].
+A '''saddle''' is a type of [[tool]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. It is made of [[leather]].
 ==Generation==
 The [[Knight]] starts each game with a saddled pony.{{refsrc|src/dog.c|191|nethack=3.6.7}}
-Saddles are quite rare: only {{frac|200}} of randomly generated tools will be a saddle.  Like all tools, they are generated uncursed with the exception of those found in [[bones]] or "fake bones" [[traps]].
+Saddles are quite rare, and make up {{frac|200}} (0.5%) of all randomly-generated tools. General [[shop]]s and hardware shops can sell saddles.
-In addition to random generation, general [[shop]]s and hardware shops can sell saddles.
+[[Horse]]s, ponies and warhorses each have a {{frac|100}} chance of generating with a worn saddle.{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|1386|nethack=3.6.7}}
-[[Horse]]s, ponies and warhorses each have a {{frac|100}} chance of generating with a worn saddle.{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|1386|nethack=3.6.7}}
+A saddle is always generated uncursed, with the exception of player [[bones]] and [[trap]] "bones".
-{{upcoming|3.7.0|Per {{commit|a1d5464fa7daf58bc5067a720b21747cae6d0782|commit a1d5464}}, the [[Knight quest]] home level will generate some saddled warhorses at level creation.}}
+{{upcoming|3.7.0|Per {{commit|a1d5464fa7daf58bc5067a720b21747cae6d0782}}, the [[Knight quest]] home level will generate some saddled warhorses at level creation.}}
 ==Description==
-[[Apply]]ing the saddle to a monster that is [[Riding#Possible choices of steed|eligible]] for use as a steed adds the saddle to that monster's inventory and allows the [[hero]] to ride it—doing so requires at least one free hand. While it is possible to saddle a non-[[tame]] monster, this is more difficult and the hero cannot ride the monster until it is tamed. [[Riding boots]] give a bonus to successfully saddling a monster while worn.
+A [[hero]] [[applying]] the saddle to a [[monster]] that is [[Riding#Possible choices of steed|eligible]] for use as a steed adds the saddle to that monster's inventory and allows the [[hero]] to ride it—doing so requires at least one free hand. While it is possible to saddle a non-[[tame]] monster, this is more difficult and the hero cannot ride the monster until it is tamed. [[Riding boots]] give a bonus to successfully saddling a monster while worn.
 The following monsters can be saddled:
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 * All {{monclass|J}}s
-Attempting to saddle a [[minion]] will always fail, regardless of if that monster is otherwise eligible.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|83|version=NetHack 3.6.7|name="noride"}} Attempting to saddle a [[footrice]] will always fail, and if the hero is not wearing [[gloves]], they are either [[Stoning|turned to stone]] or, if they are in the form of a [[golem]], are turned into a [[stone golem]].{{refsrc|src/steed.c|69|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} Attempting to saddle a [[foocubus]] will always fail, producing [[YAFM|a unique message]], and [[Abuse]] [[wisdom]].{{refsrc|src/steed.c|78|version=NetHack 3.6.7|name=shame}}
+Attempting to saddle a [[minion]] will always fail, regardless of if that monster is otherwise eligible.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|83|version=NetHack 3.6.7|name="noride"}} Attempting to saddle a [[footrice]] will always fail, and if the hero is not wearing [[gloves]], they are either [[Stoning|turned to stone]] or, if they are in the form of a [[golem]], are turned into a [[stone golem]].{{refsrc|src/steed.c|69|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} Attempting to saddle a [[foocubus]] will always fail, producing [[YAFM|a unique message]], and [[abuse]]s [[wisdom]].{{refsrc|src/steed.c|78|version=NetHack 3.6.7|name=shame}}
-If a hero or their steed has [[reflection]], the saddle will be protected from [[disintegration]] rays (though the steed may not be).
+If a hero or their steed has [[reflection]], the saddle will be protected from [[disintegration]] rays (though the steed may not be in the former case).
 ===Removing a saddle===

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 ===Removing a saddle===
-To remove a saddle from a monster while not riding it, use the #[[loot]] command, a {{spell of|knock}} spell, or a [[wand of opening]] - using magic to remove the saddle from a steed will not dismount the hero if they are riding it at that time. If the saddled monster is [[polymorph]]ed into a form ineligible to be a steed, the saddle will fall off and safely dismount the hero if they were riding - this includes the temporary polymorph into an item from eating a [[mimic]], though the saddle does not fall off in that case.{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1030|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
+To remove a saddle from a monster while not riding it, use the #[[loot]] command, a {{+ of|knock}} spell, or a [[wand of opening]]&mdash;unusually, using magic to remove the saddle from a steed will not dismount the hero if they are riding it at that time. If the saddled monster is [[polymorph]]ed into a form ineligible to be a steed, the saddle will fall off and safely dismount the hero if they were riding, and a steed that polymorphs from eating a [[mimic]] will dismount a riding hero without the saddle falling off.{{refsrc|src/eat.c|1030|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
-Theft attacks from monsters such as [[nymph]]s and [[foocubi]] that hit a saddled steed can steal the saddle off their backs, forcibly dismounting a hero that is riding. Cursed saddles cannot be removed via looting, and a hero cannot mount a monster equipped with a cursed saddle; if the saddle is cursed while they are riding, it will also prevent manual dismounting.
+Theft attacks from monsters such as [[Nymph (monster class)|nymphs]] and [[foocubi]] that hit a saddled steed can steal the saddle off their backs, forcibly dismounting a hero that is riding. Cursed saddles cannot be removed via looting, and a hero cannot mount a monster equipped with a cursed saddle; if the saddle is cursed while they are riding, it will also prevent manual dismounting.
-{{upcoming|3.7.0|As of {{commit|0cca010ff1a511133c04c24e65142022bed5aec3|commit 0cca010}}, using opening magic to remove a saddle from a steed while riding it will cause the hero to fall off that saddle, inflicting [[wounded legs]].}}
+{{upcoming|3.7.0|Per {{commit|0cca010ff1a511133c04c24e65142022bed5aec3}}, using opening magic to remove a saddle from a steed while riding it will cause the hero to fall off that saddle, inflicting [[wounded legs]].}}
 ==Strategy==
 {{main|Riding}}
-It is recommended to bless a saddle before applying it to a steed, especially if pursuing [[atheist]] or polymorphless [[conduct]]. A [[Spellbook of remove curse|spell]] or [[scroll of remove curse]] cannot uncurse a saddle, nor will [[cancellation]], and the saddle cannot be dipped in {{! of|holy water}}, as it is part of the saddled monster's inventory. However, throwing a potion of holy water down at the steed has a [[Luck]]-dependent chance that it will hit the saddle and uncurse it.{{refsrc|src/potion.c|1335|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
+It is recommended to bless a saddle before applying it to a steed, especially if pursuing [[atheist]] or polyselfless [[conduct]]. A [[Spellbook of remove curse|spell]] or [[scroll of remove curse]] cannot uncurse a saddle, nor will [[cancellation]], and the saddle cannot be dipped in {{! of|holy water}}, as it is part of the saddled monster's inventory. However, throwing a potion of holy water down at the steed has a [[Luck]]-dependent chance that it will hit the saddle and uncurse it.{{refsrc|src/potion.c|1335|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
 For players dealing with a cursed saddle that do not want to risk polymorphing their steed, [[pray]]ing to their god can uncurse the saddle, and they can force themselves to fall off through the following methods:

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 * All {{monclass|q}}s
 * All {{white|u}} [[Unicorn or horse|unicorns and horses]]
 * All {{monclass|C}}s
 * All {{monclass|D}}s except {{monsymlink|Ixoth}} and the {{monsymlink|Chromatic Dragon}}
 * All {{monclass|J}}s
 Attempting to saddle a [[minion]] will always fail, regardless of if that monster is otherwise eligible.{{refsrc|src/steed.c|83|version=NetHack 3.6.7|name="noride"}} Attempting to saddle a [[footrice]] will always fail, and if the hero is not wearing [[gloves]], they are either [[Stoning|turned to stone]] or, if they are in the form of a [[golem]], are turned into a [[stone golem]].{{refsrc|src/steed.c|69|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} Attempting to saddle a [[foocubus]] will always fail, producing [[YAFM|a unique message]], and [[Abuse]] [[wisdom]].{{refsrc|src/steed.c|78|version=NetHack 3.6.7|name=shame}}