Salamander - Revision history

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   |nutr=400
   |size=Medium
-  |resistances=Fire, Sleep
+  |resistances=[[Fire resistance]], [[sleep resistance]]
-  |resistances conveyed=Fire (53%)
+  |resistances conveyed=[[Fire resistance]] (53%)
   |attributes={{attributes|A salamander|hell=1|humanoid=1|slithy=1|thick=1|pois=1|stalk=1|hostile=1|collect=1|magic=1|infravisible=1}}
   |reference=[[monst.c#line2697]]
 }}
-A '''salamander''', {{monsym|salamander}}, is a type of [[monster]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. Salamanders are [[slithy]] [[humanoid]] reptiles that are the strongest of the [[lizard (monster class)|lizards]], and are the only members of the [[monster class]] that are not [[animal]]s.
+A '''salamander''', {{monsym|salamander}}, is a type of [[monster]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. Salamanders are [[slithy]] and [[fiery]] [[humanoid]] reptiles that are the strongest of the [[lizard (monster class)|lizards]], and are the only members of the [[monster class]] that are not [[animal]]s.
 A salamander has four attacks: a weapon attack, a touch attack that inflicts [[Fire (element)|fire damage]], and two bearhug attacks, the second of which also inflicts fire damage. Salamanders possess [[fire resistance]] and [[sleep resistance]], and as fiery monsters they are immune to [[sliming]].
-A salamander [[corpse]]s is [[poisonous]] to eat, but eating a salamander corpse or [[tin]] has a 53% chance of conveying [[fire resistance]].
+A salamander [[corpse]] is [[poisonous]] to eat, and eating a salamander corpse or [[tin]] has a {{frac|8|15}} chance (53%) of granting [[fire resistance]].
-If you #[[chat]] to a salamander, they will "mumble incomprehensibly".
+[[Chatting]] to a salamander causes them to "mumble incomprehensibly".
 ==Generation==
-Salamanders are only randomly generated in [[Gehennom]]. They cannot be selected as a target for [[genocide]].
+Salamanders are only randomly generated in [[Gehennom]], and normally-created ones are always hostile. They are not a valid target for genocide.
 Eight salamanders are generated on the [[Plane of Fire]] at level creation.
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 ==Strategy==
-Salamanders are usually not too difficult to face for a player that has reached Gehennom, though being caught in their bearhug may leave you at the mercy of more vicious monsters in the area unless you kill them or break their grip quickly. However, a salamander has no [[Magic resistance (monster)|MR score]], leaving it vulnerable to [[wand]]s and [[spell]]s as well as various tools, and can be [[scared]] easily into releasing you.
+Salamanders are usually not too difficult to face for a [[hero]] that has reached Gehennom, since they will usually have fire resistance at this point, though being caught in their bearhug may leave you at the mercy of more vicious monsters in the area unless you kill them or break their grip quickly. However, a salamander has no [[Magic resistance (monster)|MR score]], leaving it vulnerable to [[wand]]s and [[spell]]s as well as various tools, and can be [[scared]] easily into releasing you.
-Salamanders are the only monsters that will eat a [[glob of green slime]] to cure [[stoning]], as they are fiery and immune to sliming.
+While many monsters will pick up a [[glob of green slime]] to cure [[stoning]], salamanders are the only monsters that will actually eat the [[glob]], as they are immune to sliming.
 ===As a polyform===
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 ===Salamanders in fantasy===
 {{wikipedia|Cultural depictions of salamanders}}
-Though the default [[tileset]] makes it resemble the animal, the salamanders of ''NetHack'' are derived from ''[[Dungeons & Dragons]]'', whose salamanders are reptilian humanoids with a pair of arms and a tail that originated on the Elemental Plane of Fire - a significant population migrated from there to areas such as the Firelands and the Peaks of Flame via portal. Their culture is known for metalsmithing and creating weapons that utilized the power of flame, and they often wielded spears and used their tails to constrict their enemies; their skin was so hot that even the merest touch caused burns.
+Though the default [[tileset]] makes it resemble the animal, the salamanders of ''NetHack'' are derived from ''[[Dungeons & Dragons]]'', whose salamanders are reptilian humanoids with a pair of arms and a tail that originate on the Elemental Plane of Fire&mdash;a significant population of salamanders migrated from there to areas such as the Firelands and the Peaks of Flame via portal. Their culture is known for metal-smithing and creating weapons that utilized the power of flame, and they often wielded spears and used their tails to constrict their enemies; their skin was so hot that even the merest touch caused burns.
-Some of these traits and other qualities associated with "fantastic" salamanders by classical, medieval and renaissance lore are themselves derived from real salamanders: Certain writings of Pliny the Elder's time exaggerated the salamander's poisonous skin to the extent that a single salamander could supposedly taint the fruit of any tree that it climbed, and any water from a well that it fell into would become lethal. This is likely the basis for the burning skin that the salamanders of ''Dungeons & Dragons'' have, and may also be why the salamanders of ''NetHack'' are poisonous to eat and have 'burning' touch and hug attacks.
+Some of these traits and other qualities associated with "fantastic" salamanders by classical, medieval and renaissance lore are themselves derived from real salamanders: Certain writings of Pliny the Elder's time exaggerated the salamander's poisonous skin to the extent that a single salamander could supposedly taint the fruit of any tree that it climbed, and any water from a well that it fell into would become lethal. This is likely the basis for the burning skin that the salamanders of ''Dungeons & Dragons'' have, which in turn may be the reason that the salamanders of ''NetHack'' are poisonous to eat and have 'burning' touch and hug attacks.
-Hermeticist beliefs originating in Renaissance Europe considered salamanders fiery creatures, as they "mysteriously" appeared when the rotting logs they hibernated in were brought indoors and put on a fire; the [[wikipedia:Talmud|Talmud]] also describes the salamander as a product of fire whose blood grants immunity from fire to anyone smeared in it. The philosopher [[wikipedia:Saint Augustine|Saint Augustine]] argues in ''[[wikipedia:The City of God|The City of God]]'' that salamanders are proof of eternal punishment, since the flames they inhabited could be used to burn sinful humans forever - both this and their elemental affinity for fire may explain why ''NetHack'' salamanders typically only appear in Gehennom.
+Hermeticist beliefs originating in Renaissance Europe considered salamanders fiery creatures, as they "mysteriously" appeared when the rotting logs they hibernated in were brought indoors and put on a fire; the [[wikipedia:Talmud|Talmud]] also describes the salamander as a product of fire whose blood grants immunity from fire to anyone smeared in it. The philosopher [[wikipedia:Saint Augustine|Saint Augustine]] argues in ''[[wikipedia:The City of God|The City of God]]'' that salamanders are proof of eternal punishment, since the flames they inhabited could be used to burn sinful humans forever&mdash;both this and their elemental affinity for fire may explain why ''NetHack'' salamanders typically only appear in Gehennom and the Plane of Fire.
 ==Variants==
 ===SLASH'EM===
-In [[SLASH'EM]], salamanders are guaranteed polyforms for [[Doppelganger (starting race)|Dopplegangers]] at experience level 8, and are a solid choice for similar reasons as in vanilla.
+In [[SLASH'EM]], salamanders are guaranteed polyforms for [[Doppelganger (starting race)|doppleganger]] heroes that reach experience level 8, and are a solid choice for similar reasons as in vanilla.
 ===UnNetHack===
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 ===dNetHack===
-In [[dNetHack]], the salamander's [[Monster difficulty|difficulty]] is raised to 13. [[Drow (starting race)|Drow]] characters are capable of applying [[saddle]]s to tame salamanders and using them as [[steed]]s.
+In [[dNetHack]], the salamander's [[Monster difficulty|difficulty]] is raised to 13. [[Drow (starting race)#dNetHack|Drow]] heroes are capable of applying [[saddle]]s to tame salamanders and using them as [[steed]]s.
-The [[Chaos Temple Quest|Chaos Temple variant]] of the [[Chaos Quest (dNetHack)|Chaos Quest]] generates two salamanders in the domain of [[Kary, the Fiend of Fire]].
+The [[Chaos Temple Quest|Chaos Temple variant]] of the [[Chaos Quest (dNetHack)|Chaos Quest]] generates two salamanders in the domain of [[Kary, the Fiend of Fire]] at level creation.
 ===SpliceHack===

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 In [[EvilHack]], salamanders can survive in and move through [[lava]], remaining within lava squares when possible - they can also pull the hero and other monsters into lava with their bearhug attack, similar to [[python]]s and [[eel]]s in water. Being pulled into lava this way will usually destroy most of the hero's inventory, along with possibly killing them outright. The salamander's attack routine is altered so that the non-fiery bearhug attack is third in order, but is not unchanged from their attack routine in vanilla ''NetHack''.
-EvilHack also adds the [[frost salamander]], a stronger icy counterpart that only appears in the [[Ice Queen's Realm]] - it keeps to [[ice]] tiles where possible and cannot drown you, though this instead introduces the risk of being lured onto ice that may be  promptly melted. Frost salamanders use the same hit dice and attack routine as a salamander in ''NetHack'', though with cold damage.
+EvilHack also adds the [[frost salamander]], a stronger icy counterpart that uses the same hit dice and attack routine as a salamander in ''NetHack'', though with cold damage.
 ===SlashTHEM===

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 ===As a polyform===
 Salamanders are solid polyforms, since they move at the same base speed as you, possess a natural [[AC]] of -1 and can wear all armor minus [[boots]]. If you are using [[polymorph]] to cure sliming, a salamander is the best fiery monster form available, as they are not [[eyeless]] and possess arms to pick up and wield items, and can also safely eat globs from [[green slime]]s to cure stoning.
 ==History==

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   |frequency=1
   |genocidable=No
-  |attacks=Weapon 2d8, Touch 1d6 [[fire]], bearhug 2d6, bearhug 3d6 fire
+  |attacks=Weapon 2d8 physical, Touch 1d6 [[Fire (element)|fire]], [[bearhug]] 2d6 physical, bearhug 3d6 fire
   |weight=1500
   |nutr=400
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   |resistances conveyed=Fire (53%)
   |attributes={{attributes|A salamander|hell=1|humanoid=1|slithy=1|thick=1|pois=1|stalk=1|hostile=1|collect=1|magic=1|infravisible=1}}
-  |reference=[[monst.c#line2689]]
+  |reference=[[monst.c#line2697]]
 }}
 A '''salamander''', {{monsym|salamander}}, is a type of [[monster]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. Salamanders are [[slithy]] [[humanoid]] reptiles that are the strongest of the [[lizard (monster class)|lizards]], and are the only members of the [[monster class]] that are not [[animal]]s.

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   |frequency=1
   |genocidable=No
-  |attacks=Weapon 2d8, Touch 1d6 [[fire]], bearhug 2d6, bearhug 3d6 fire (scrolls, potions and spellbooks may be affected)
+  |attacks=Weapon 2d8, Touch 1d6 [[fire]], bearhug 2d6, bearhug 3d6 fire
   |weight=1500
   |nutr=400
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   |resistances=Fire, Sleep
   |resistances conveyed=Fire (53%)
-  |attributes={{attributes|A salamander|
+  |attributes={{attributes|A salamander|hell=1|humanoid=1|slithy=1|thick=1|pois=1|stalk=1|hostile=1|collect=1|magic=1|infravisible=1}}
   |reference=[[monst.c#line2689]]
 }}
 A '''salamander''', {{monsym|salamander}}, is a type of [[monster]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]''. Salamanders are [[slithy]] [[humanoid]] reptiles that are the strongest of the [[lizard (monster class)|lizards]], and are the only members of the [[monster class]] that are not [[animal]]s.
-A salamander has four attacks: a weapon attack, a fiery touch and two bearhug attacks, the second of which is also fiery. Salamanders possess [[fire resistance]] and [[sleep resistance]], and are immune to [[sliming]].
+A salamander has four attacks: a weapon attack, a touch attack that inflicts [[Fire (element)|fire damage]], and two bearhug attacks, the second of which also inflicts fire damage. Salamanders possess [[fire resistance]] and [[sleep resistance]], and as fiery monsters they are immune to [[sliming]].
 A salamander [[corpse]]s is [[poisonous]] to eat, but eating a salamander corpse or [[tin]] has a 53% chance of conveying [[fire resistance]].
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 ==Generation==
-Salamanders are only randomly generated in [[Gehennom]], though they are also a valid form for [[polymorph]], e.g. from [[polymorph trap]]s. Eight salamanders are generated upon reacing the [[Plane of Fire]].
+Salamanders are only randomly generated in [[Gehennom]]. They cannot be selected as a target for [[genocide]].
 Salamanders [[Monster starting inventory|are generated with]] either a [[spear]] ({{frac|6|7}} chance), a [[trident]] ({{frac|2|21}} chance), or a [[stiletto]] ({{frac|21}} chance).{{refsrc|src/makemon.c|483|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
 ==Strategy==
-Salamanders are usually not too difficult to face for a player that has reached Gehennom, though being caught in their bearhug may leave you vulnerable to more vicious monsters in the area unless you kill them or break their grip quickly. However, a salamander has no [[Magic resistance (monster)|MR score]], leaving it vulnerable to [[wand]]s and [[spell]]s as well as various tools - this makes scaring one into releasing you fairly trivial.
+Salamanders are usually not too difficult to face for a player that has reached Gehennom, though being caught in their bearhug may leave you at the mercy of more vicious monsters in the area unless you kill them or break their grip quickly. However, a salamander has no [[Magic resistance (monster)|MR score]], leaving it vulnerable to [[wand]]s and [[spell]]s as well as various tools, and can be [[scared]] easily into releasing you.
-Salamanders are the only monsters that will eat a [[glob of green slime]] to cure [[stoning]], as they are fiery and not subject to sliming.
+Salamanders are the only monsters that will eat a [[glob of green slime]] to cure [[stoning]], as they are fiery and immune to sliming.
 ===As a polyform===
-Salamanders are solid polyforms, since they move at the same base speed as you, possess a natural [[AC]] of -1 and can wear all armor minus [[boots]]. If you are using [[polymorph]] to cure [[sliming]], a salamander is the best fiery monster form available, as they are not [[eyeless]] and possess arms to pick up and wield items. As a salamander, you can also safely eat globs from [[green slime]]s to cure stoning.
+Salamanders are solid polyforms, since they move at the same base speed as you, possess a natural [[AC]] of -1 and can wear all armor minus [[boots]]. If you are using [[polymorph]] to cure sliming, a salamander is the best fiery monster form available, as they are not [[eyeless]] and possess arms to pick up and wield items, and can also safely eat globs from [[green slime]]s to cure stoning.
 Of note is that you can safely quaff a lit [[potion of oil]] as a salamander, which exercises [[wisdom]].
 ==History==
-The salamander first appears in [[NetHack-- 3.1.3]], and are among the many monsters from that variant added to [[SLASH 6]]. Salamanders make their vanilla ''NetHack'' debut in [[NetHack 3.2.0]].
+The salamander first appears in [[NetHack-- 3.1.3]], and is among the many monsters from that variant added to [[SLASH 6]]. Salamanders make their vanilla ''NetHack'' debut in [[NetHack 3.2.0]].
 ==Origin==
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 ===notdNetHack===
 {{main|Salamander (starting race)}}
-In addition to dNetHack details, [[notdNetHack]] adds the salamander as a playable starting race.
+In addition to dNetHack details, [[notdNetHack]] and [[notnotdNetHack]] add the salamander as a playable starting race.
 ===EvilHack===
-In [[EvilHack]], salamanders can survive in and move through [[lava]], remaining within lava squares when possible - they can also pull players into lava with their bearhug attack, similar to [[python]]s and [[eel]]s in water. Being pulled into lava this way will usually destroy most of the player's inventory along with possibly killing them outright. The salamander's attack routine is altered so that the non-fiery bearhug attack is third in order, but it is otherwise mostly unchanged from vanilla ''NetHack''.
+In [[EvilHack]], salamanders can survive in and move through [[lava]], remaining within lava squares when possible - they can also pull the hero and other monsters into lava with their bearhug attack, similar to [[python]]s and [[eel]]s in water. Being pulled into lava this way will usually destroy most of the hero's inventory, along with possibly killing them outright. The salamander's attack routine is altered so that the non-fiery bearhug attack is third in order, but is not unchanged from their attack routine in vanilla ''NetHack''.
 EvilHack also adds the [[frost salamander]], a stronger icy counterpart that only appears in the [[Ice Queen's Realm]] - it keeps to [[ice]] tiles where possible and cannot drown you, though this instead introduces the risk of being lured onto ice that may be  promptly melted. Frost salamanders use the same hit dice and attack routine as a salamander in ''NetHack'', though with cold damage.
 ===SlashTHEM===
-In addition to SLASH'EM details, the salamanders is the second [[quest]] monster for the [[Firefighter]]s in [[SlashTHEM]], and make up {{frac|24|175}} of the monsters randomly generated on the [[Firefighter quest]]. Salamanders also appear among the random {{white|:}} that are part of the second quest monster class for Firefighters and make up {{frac|6|175}} of the monsters randomly generated there. Some salamanders are also placed on various floors of the branch at level creation: five salamanders each are generated on the home, locate and goal floors, one salamander is placed within the upper filler level(s), and two are placed within the lower filler level(s).
+In addition to SLASH'EM details, the salamander is the second [[quest]] monster for the [[Firefighter]] in [[SlashTHEM]], and makes up {{frac|24|175}} of the monsters randomly generated on the [[Firefighter quest]]. Salamanders also appear among the random {{white|:}} that are part of the second quest monster class for Firefighters and make up {{frac|6|175}} of the monsters randomly generated there. Some salamanders are also placed on various floors of the branch at level creation: five salamanders each are generated on the home, locate and goal floors, one salamander is placed within the upper filler level(s), and two are placed within the lower filler level(s).
 ==Encyclopedia entry==

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 In [[dNetHack]], [[Drow (starting race)|player drow]] are capable of applying [[saddle]]s to salamanders and using them as [[steed]]s.
-The [[Chaos Temple Quest|Chaos Temple variant]] of the [[Chaos Quest (dNethack)|Chaos Quest]] generates two salamanders in the domain of [[Kary, the Fiend of Fire]].
+The [[Chaos Temple Quest|Chaos Temple variant]] of the [[Chaos Quest (dNetHack)|Chaos Quest]] generates two salamanders in the domain of [[Kary, the Fiend of Fire]].
 ===SpliceHack===

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   |reference=[[monst.c#line2689]]
 }}
-A '''salamander''', {{monsym|salamander}}, is a type of [[monster]] in ''[[NetHack]]''. Salamanders are the strongest of the [[lizard (monster class)|lizard]] [[monster class]], and the only member of the monster class that is not an [[animal]].
+A '''salamander''', {{monsym|salamander}}, is a type of [[monster]] in ''[[NetHack]]''. Salamanders are the strongest of the [[lizard (monster class)|lizard]] [[monster class]], and the only members of the monster class that are not [[animal]]s.
 A salamander has four attacks - a weapon attack, a fiery touch and two bearhug attacks, the second of which is also fiery. Salamanders resist [[fire resistance|fire]] and [[sleep resistance|sleep]], and are immune to [[genocide]] and [[sliming]]. Eating a salamander's corpse or meat has a 53% chance of conveying [[fire resistance]], though their corpses are poisonous.
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 ==Strategy==
-Salamanders are usually not too difficult to face for a player that has reached Gehennom, though being caught in their bearhug may leave you vulnerable to more vicious monsters in the air unless you kill them or break their grip quickly. However, a salamander has no [[Magic resistance (monster)|MR score]], leaving it vulnerable to wands as well as various tools - this makes scaring one into releasing you fairly trivial.
+Salamanders are usually not too difficult to face for a player that has reached Gehennom, though being caught in their bearhug may leave you vulnerable to more vicious monsters in the area unless you kill them or break their grip quickly. However, a salamander has no [[Magic resistance (monster)|MR score]], leaving it vulnerable to wands as well as various tools - this makes scaring one into releasing you fairly trivial.
 Salamanders are the only monsters that will eat a [[glob of green slime]] to cure [[stoning]], as they are fiery and not subject to sliming.
 ===As a polyform===
-If you are using [[polymorph]] to cure [[sliming]], a salamander is the best fiery monster form available, as they are not [[eyeless]] and possess arms to pick up and wield items. Salamanders are [[humanoid]], [[slithy]] and move at the same base speed - they have a natural [[AC]] of -1 and can also wear all armor minus [[boots]]. As a salamander, you can safely eat globs from [[green slime]]s to cure stoning.
+Salamanders are [[humanoid]], [[slithy]] and move at the same base speed - they have a natural [[AC]] of -1 and can also wear all armor minus [[boots]]. If you are using [[polymorph]] to cure [[sliming]], a salamander is the best fiery monster form available, as they are not [[eyeless]] and possess arms to pick up and wield items. As a salamander, you can also safely eat globs from [[green slime]]s to cure stoning.
 Of note is that you can safely quaff a lit [[potion of oil]] as a salamander, which exercises [[wisdom]].
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 The [[Chaos Temple Quest|Chaos Temple variant]] of the [[Chaos Quest (dNethack)|Chaos Quest]] generates two salamanders in the domain of [[Kary, the Fiend of Fire]].
 ===SpliceHack===
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 ===EvilHack===
-In [[EvilHack]], salamanders can move through [[lava]] and will remain within pools of lava when possible; they can also pull players into lava with their bearhug attack, similar to [[python]]s and [[eels]] in water. Being pulled into lava this way will usually destroy most of the player's inventory along with killing them outright.
+In [[EvilHack]], salamanders can survive in and move through [[lava]], remaining within lava squares when possible - they can also pull players into lava with their bearhug attack, similar to [[python]]s and [[eels]] in water. Being pulled into lava this way will usually destroy most of the player's inventory along with killing them outright. The salamander's attack routine is altered so that the non-fiery bearhug attack is third, but it is otherwise mostly unchanged from vanilla ''NetHack''.
 EvilHack also adds the [[frost salamander]], a stronger icy counterpart of the salamander that only appears in the [[Ice Queen's Realm]]; it keeps to [[ice]] tiles where possible and cannot drown you, though this instead introduces the risk of being lured onto ice that may be  promptly melted. Frost salamanders use the same hit dice and attack routine as a salamander in ''NetHack'', though with cold damage.
 ==Encyclopedia entry==
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 ==References==
 <references/>
-{{nethack-366}}
+{{nethack-367}}
 [[Category:Monsters]]