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Umbire the Phantom: message

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message

Umbire the Phantom: variants

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variants

Umbire the Phantom: start on variants

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start on variants

Umbire the Phantom: upcoming for gremlin heroes + keyboard commands thing that I've been missing the whole time

2025-03-13T14:34:41Z

upcoming for gremlin heroes + keyboard commands thing that I've been missing the whole time

Umbire the Phantom: more lede

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more lede

Umbire the Phantom: lede, word choice

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lede, word choice

Umbire the Phantom: upcoming, messages, etc.

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upcoming, messages, etc.

Umbire the Phantom: history and messages - broaching into 3.7 territory now, I think that's up-to-date as it gets

2025-03-13T13:26:40Z

history and messages - broaching into 3.7 territory now, I think that's up-to-date as it gets

Umbire the Phantom: continue with history, add messages

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continue with history, add messages

Umbire the Phantom: do a couple of commits and then restart this thing because it's being annoying

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do a couple of commits and then restart this thing because it's being annoying

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 {{message|You sit in the water. Your <armor> gets wet.|You sat on a pool or moat while flying or water walking, which may wet your suit of armor or boots.}}
 {{message|You sit on the ice. The ice feels cold.|You sat on an ice square. The latter sentence is omitted if you have [[cold resistance]].}}
 {{message|You sit on the altar.|You sat down on an altar, incurring a penalty depending on its alignment.}}

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 ==Variants==
 ===SLASH'EM===
-In [[SLASH'EM]], a hero can sit on a [[toilet]], which cures any [[illness]] and also reduces [[nutrition]] by 200-599 if they are satiated.
+In [[SLASH'EM]], a hero can sit on a [[toilet]], which cures any [[illness]] and also reduces [[nutrition]] by 200-599 if they are satiated.{{refsrc|sit.c|120|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}
 ==References==

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 {{message|Squelch!|You sat on a cream pie while not deaf.}}
 {{message|You coil up around <the item>.|You sat on an item or feature while in the form of a slithy monster.}}
 ==References==

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 {{tocright}}
 '''Sitting''' is a form of [[extended command]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]'', and is performed by either pressing {{kbd|#}} and entering '''sit''' or by pressing {{kbd|meta key|s}} if the <tt>[[altmeta]]</tt> [[option]] is enabled.
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 {{upcoming|3.7.0|Per {{commit|ac9be58970d4e451d6637a37128c539f1c9f7418}}, sitting on a [[cream pie]] destroys it.
-Per {{commit|f0a0a74dcc793189be7f799d95a34016e23c4110}}, sitting while in the form of a [[slithy]] monster gives a different message.}}
+Per {{commit|f0a0a74dcc793189be7f799d95a34016e23c4110}}, sitting while in the form of a [[slithy]] monster gives a different message.
 ===Eggs===

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 {{tocright}}
-'''Sitting''' is a form of [[extended command]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]'', and is performed by either pressing {{kbd|#}} and entering '''sit''' or by pressing {{kbd|meta key|s}}.
+'''Sitting''' is a form of [[extended command]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]'', and is performed by either pressing {{kbd|#}} and entering '''sit''' or by pressing {{kbd|meta key|s}} if the <tt>[[altmeta]]</tt> [[option]] is enabled.
 An entire file within the [[source code]], <tt>[[sit.c]]</tt>, contains the majority of the code that handles sitting and its effects, with the bulk of it contained in the <tt>dosit()</tt> function.

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 {{tocright}}
-'''Sitting''' is a form of [[extended command]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]'', and is performed by either pressing {{kbd|#}} and entering '''#sit''' or by pressing {{kbd|alt|s}}.
+'''Sitting''' is a form of [[extended command]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]'', and is performed by either pressing {{kbd|#}} and entering '''sit''' or by pressing {{kbd|meta key|s}}.
 An entire file within the [[source code]], <tt>[[sit.c]]</tt>, contains the majority of the code that handles sitting and its effects, with the bulk of it contained in the <tt>dosit()</tt> function.
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 Using this extended command makes the [[hero]] sit down, with different effects and messages depending on their location and the top-most [[item]] or [[dungeon feature]] present on the hero's square.{{refsrc|src/sit.c|35|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/sit.c|68|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
-The hero cannot sit if any of the following conditions apply:
+The hero will fail to sit with no effect if any of the following conditions apply:
 * They are [[riding]].{{refsrc|src/sit.c|41|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}

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 '''Sitting''' is a form of [[extended command]] that appears in ''[[NetHack]]'', and is performed by either pressing {{kbd|#}} and entering '''#sit''' or by pressing {{kbd|alt|s}}.
-An entire file within the [[source code]], <tt>[[sit.c]]</tt>, handles much of the mechanics around sitting and its effects.
+An entire file within the [[source code]], <tt>[[sit.c]]</tt>, contains the majority of the code that handles sitting and its effects, with the bulk of it contained in the <tt>dosit()</tt> function.
 ==Description==
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 A hero in the form of a monster that is [[hiding]] on the ceiling and sits will stop hiding and become visible on their current square.{{refsrc|src/sit.c|45|nethack=3.6.7}} A hero [[polymorph]]ed into a [[dragon]] that sits on a square with [[gold]] will print a unique message that has no effect.{{refsrc|src/sit.c|74|nethack=3.6.7}}
 ===Eggs===
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 A hero that attempts to sit while they are tethered to a buried [[heavy iron ball]], or else buried in the ground as a result of cooling lava that they were sinking into, will fail and increase the duration they are stuck for by one turn.{{refsrc|src/sit.c|110|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
 ==Strategy==
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 {{message|There are no cushions floating nearby.|You attempted to sit while on the Plane of Water.}}
-{{upcoming|3.7.0|Per {{commit|4943fe23b31365cdc3646058a0c13175262118e7}}, the following messages are added.}}
+{{upcoming|3.7.0|Per {{commit|4943fe23b31365cdc3646058a0c13175262118e7}}, {{commit|8747d2ddce3318a971448d2eaeae677304c21c66}} and {{commit|ac9be58970d4e451d6637a37128c539f1c9f7418}}, the following messages are added.}}
 {{message|It's probably not a good time for a picnic...|You sat on a towel.}}
 ==References==

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 ===Altars===
-A hero sitting on an [[altar]] is subjected to adverse effects depending on its alignment:{{refsrc|src/sit.c|135|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/pray.c|2233|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} a hero sitting on a co-aligned [[altar]] takes penalties to [[alignment record]] and [[abuse]]s [[wisdom]];{{refsrc|src/pray.c|2238|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} a hero sitting on a cross-aligned altar with -4 or more [[luck]] has a luck-dependent chance of losing at least one point of luck, with a {{frac|20}} chance of losing 2 points of luck.{{refsrc|src/pray.c|2242|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
+A hero sitting on an [[altar]] is subjected to adverse effects depending on its alignment:{{refsrc|src/sit.c|135|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/pray.c|2233|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} a hero sitting on a co-aligned [[altar]] takes penalties to [[alignment record]] and loses one point of [[wisdom]];{{refsrc|src/pray.c|2238|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} a hero sitting on a cross-aligned altar with -4 or more [[luck]] has a luck-dependent chance of losing at least one point of luck, with a {{frac|20}} chance of losing 2 points of luck.{{refsrc|src/pray.c|2242|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
 ===Hazards===
-Sitting on a [[trap]] while the hero is caught in it abuses [[wisdom]], and depending on the trap type it may also increase the duration that the hero is stuck for.{{refsrc|src/sit.c|84|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} A hero that sits on a square with a trap may trigger that trap, including one that the hero is not caught in.{{refsrc|src/sit.c|115|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
+Sitting on a [[trap]] while the hero is caught in it [[abuse]]s wisdom, and depending on the trap type it may also increase the duration that the hero is stuck for.{{refsrc|src/sit.c|84|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} A hero that sits on a square with a trap may trigger that trap, including one that the hero is not caught in.{{refsrc|src/sit.c|115|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
-A hero that attempts to sit while caught in a [[beartrap]] will increase the duration required to escape by one turn.{{refsrc|src/sit.c|86|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} A hero that sits while stuck in a [[pit]] has a {{frac|4|5}} chance of becoming trapped for longer, with a duration of up to four more turns;{{refsrc|src/sit.c|90|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} a hero that sits while stuck in a [[spiked pit]] also abuses [[strength]] and takes 1 point of damage, with a {{frac|2}} chance of taking damage if the hero has [[half physical damage]].{{refsrc|src/sit.c|91|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} A hero that sits while stuck in a [[web]] will become further entangled for {{rn1|10|5}} more turns.{{refsrc|src/sit.c|99|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
+A hero that attempts to sit while caught in a [[bear trap]] will increase the duration required to escape by one turn.{{refsrc|src/sit.c|86|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} A hero that sits while stuck in a [[pit]] has a {{frac|4|5}} chance of becoming trapped for longer, with a duration of up to four more turns;{{refsrc|src/sit.c|90|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} a hero that sits while stuck in a [[spiked pit]] also abuses [[strength]] and takes 1 point of damage, with a {{frac|2}} chance of taking damage if the hero has [[half physical damage]].{{refsrc|src/sit.c|91|version=NetHack 3.6.7}} A hero that sits while stuck in a [[web]] will become further entangled for {{rn1|10|5}} more turns.{{refsrc|src/sit.c|99|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
 A hero that is sinking in [[lava]] and attempts to sit will burn away any [[sliming]] and take 2d10 damage while sinking themselves further into the lava{{refsrc|src/sit.c|83|version=NetHack 3.6.7|comment=this ensures cases involving lava and the cases below them can be reached}}{{refsrc|src/sit.c|102|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}&mdash;this does ''not'' check against [[fire resistance]], since the game presumes that a hero has fire resistance in the first place for this situation to occur, or else the lava would [[Instant death|instantly kill them]]. A hero that sits ''on'' a lava square (which requires them to be [[flying]] or wearing [[fireproof]] water walking boots) will burn away any sliming and either takes 10d10 damage, which is reduced to 2d10 with fire resistance, or takes no damage at all if they are [[polymorph]]ed into a [[fire elemental]] or [[salamander]].{{refsrc|src/sit.c|144|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}
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 * Several cases within the trap-focused block of code in <tt>sit.c</tt> dosit() are caused by the <tt>utraptype</tt> variable being set to values that do not correspond to an actual trap&mdash;this means that the "sitting in lava" killer message cannot occur, and the messages for sitting while buried in the ground or tethered by a buried iron ball cannot occur either. This is fixed in NetHack 3.6.0 via {{commit|82cef265120d3d7ff213dde28caaafbe38de5422}}.
 * Sitting while trapped in a spiked pit ignores half physical damage. This is fixed in NetHack 3.6.0 via {{commit|cdf982e47834b2fbd98cbba003a4f358b13230b9}}.
-* If a hero is on a square with a [[pit]] or a spiked pit, the trap has a corpse inside, and the hero is not caught in the trap, using the sit command will have them sit on the corpse without falling into the pit. This is fixed in NetHack 3.6.0 via {{commit|28934bc7b64be632fba0d2538387821f4054048d}}, which requires the hero to be in the pit to sit on anything within it.<!--NetHack 3.6.0 or a later version allows the hero to enter the pit with the {{kbd|>}} command, and still later versions will activate the trap as normal when sitting.-->
+* If a hero is on a square with a [[pit]] or a spiked pit, the trap has a corpse inside, and the hero is not caught in the trap, using the sit command will have them sit on the corpse without falling into the pit. This is bug C343-6, and is fixed in NetHack 3.6.0 via {{commit|28934bc7b64be632fba0d2538387821f4054048d}}, which requires the hero to be in the pit to sit on anything within it, and also enables a hero to enter a pit trap, [[hole]] or [[trap door]] on their square with the {{kbd|>}} command.
 * Sitting while engulfed gives an improper message. This is fixed in NetHack 3.6.0 via {{commit|6ac27851a6bed11579c032afd3cdc350fef17c6e}}, which also adds a specific message for sitting while being held.
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 The ability for a hero in the form of a compatible monster that is currently hiding on the ceiling to sit and return to the floor is added in NetHack 3.6.0 via {{commit|70e25fa154716bee958419ce8d4ae48f4353601d}}.
 ==Messages==
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 {{message|You sit on <the item>.|You sat on a square with an item on it.}}
 {{message|It's not very comfortable...|This is added to the above if the item is not a large box, chest or anything made of cloth.}}
-{{message|You coil up around your <meager> hoard.|You sat down on a pile of gold while in the form of a dragon&mdash;a "meager" hoard has less than 1000 gold pieces times your current [[experience level]].}}
+{{message|You coil up around your <meager> hoard.|[[YAFM]] from sitting down on a pile of gold while in the form of a dragon&mdash;a "meager" hoard has less than 1000 gold pieces times your current [[experience level]].}}
 {{message|You are sitting on air.|You tried to sit down while you currently cannot reach the floor.}}
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 {{message|<The monster> won't offer <their> lap.|You attempted to sit while being stuck to or held by a [[humanoid]] monster.}}
 {{message|<The monster> has no lap.|As above, with a non-humanoid monster.}}
 {{message|You are already sitting on <the steed>.|You attempted to sit while riding.}}
 ==References==

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 ==History==
-In [[NetHack 3.4.3]] and previous versions, including some variants based on those versions, sitting is subject to several bugs:
+In [[NetHack 3.4.3]] and previous versions, including some variants based on those versions, sitting is subject to [[Bugs in NetHack 3.4.3|several bugs]] that are fixed in [[NetHack 3.6.0]] and later versions:
-* Several cases within the trap-focused block of code in <tt>sit.c</tt> dosit() are caused by the <tt>utraptype</tt> variable being set to values that do not correspond to an actual trap&mdash;this means that the "sitting in lava" killer message cannot occur, and the messages for sitting while buried in the ground or tethered by a buried iron ball cannot occur either. This is fixed in [[NetHack 3.6.0]] via {{commit|82cef265120d3d7ff213dde28caaafbe38de5422}}.
+* Several cases within the trap-focused block of code in <tt>sit.c</tt> dosit() are caused by the <tt>utraptype</tt> variable being set to values that do not correspond to an actual trap&mdash;this means that the "sitting in lava" killer message cannot occur, and the messages for sitting while buried in the ground or tethered by a buried iron ball cannot occur either. This is fixed in NetHack 3.6.0 via {{commit|82cef265120d3d7ff213dde28caaafbe38de5422}}.
-* A bug is present that allows a hero to sit in places they normally cannot reach: if a hero is on a square with a [[pit]] or a spiked pit, the trap has a corpse inside, and the hero is not caught in the trap, using the sit command will have them sit on the corpse without falling into the pit. This is addressed in [[NetHack 3.6.0]], which allows the hero to enter the pit with the {{kbd|>}} command, and later versions will activate the trap as normal when sitting.
+* Sitting while trapped in a spiked pit ignores half physical damage. This is fixed in NetHack 3.6.0 via {{commit|cdf982e47834b2fbd98cbba003a4f358b13230b9}}.
 ==References==