Start scumming - Revision history

Kufat: Mainline NH now offers zen option

2018-12-26T23:14:07Z

Mainline NH now offers zen option

Gufier: Edited link text

2016-05-26T15:46:07Z

Edited link text

Scorchgeek: note on startscumming for conducts

2015-10-13T00:07:34Z

note on startscumming for conducts

Paxed: Text replace - "\[\[[sS]pellbook of (dig|magic missile|fireball|cone of cold|sleep|finger of death|light|detect monsters|healing|knock|force bolt|confuse monster|cure blindness|drain life|slow monster|wizard lock|create monster|detect food|cause fear|clai

2012-11-25T17:00:32Z

Schneelocke: Well, whether it's cheating or not is a matter of opinion, so let's not be too quick to judge.

2010-05-28T20:06:50Z

Well, whether it's cheating or not is a matter of opinion, so let's not be too quick to judge.

Eidolos: Grammar fixes; category:cheating

2006-09-08T16:48:46Z

Grammar fixes; category:cheating

Eidolos: Created article.

2006-09-08T16:40:46Z

Created article.

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'''Start scumming''' is a simple abuse that involves immediately [[quit]]ting characters that do not meet some arbitrary criteria. [[Wizard]]s are most often the victim of this behavior, due to their useful starting magical equipment. For example, a player may startscum Wizards looking for a very good starting spell (such as [[spellbook of identify|identify]] or [[spellbook of magic missile|magic missile]]). Every [[role]] is startscumming to some extent, even those who receive no random [[equipment]], because sometimes players demand unusually high starting [[stats]].

On [[nethack.alt.org]], startscumming has been defined as a [[quit]] or [[escape]] with less than a thousand [[points]]. This is by no means a perfect definition, as players sometimes commit suicide instead of quitting (so as not to appear as startscumming), and sometimes players quit or escape with no intention of scumming (such as when they accidentally choose the wrong [[role]]).

Many scripts that generate stats based on the [[logfile]] (including [[Rodney (bot)|Rodney]]'s death announcements) ignore startscums as they have defined them. This is partly because about 34% of games on nethack.alt.org fall under their definition of startscumming; more than half of those scums are Wizards.

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 Many experienced players consider startscumming to be [[Cheating#degenerate_behavior|degenerate behavior]] and recommend that new players not do it, saying it will not help them learn how to play the game with weaker characters.
-Startscumming for specific items is sometimes a necessary or very important part of [[conduct]]s: for instance, a [[Zen]] player needs to start with a blindfold to be able to attempt the conduct, and a gametime [[speedrun]] will be extremely difficult without a [[tonal instrument]]. Most players do not consider this kind of startscumming to be abusive.
+Startscumming for specific items is sometimes a necessary or very important part of [[conduct]]s: for instance, a [[SLASH'EM]] [[Zen]] player needs to start with a blindfold to be able to attempt the conduct, and a gametime [[speedrun]] will be extremely difficult without a [[tonal instrument]]. Most players do not consider this kind of startscumming to be abusive.
 On [[nethack.alt.org]], startscumming has been defined as a [[quit]] or [[escape]] with less than a thousand [[points]]. This is by no means a perfect definition, as players sometimes commit suicide instead of quitting, and sometimes players quit or escape with no intention of scumming (such as when they accidentally choose the wrong [[role]]).

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 '''Start scumming''' (or ''startscumming'') is the act of immediately [[quit]]ting characters that do not meet some arbitrary criteria. [[Wizard]]s are most often the victim of this [[scumming]] behavior, due to their useful starting magical equipment. For example, a player may startscum Wizards looking for a very good starting spell (such as {{spell of|identify}} or {{spell of|magic missile}}). Every [[role]] is startscummed to some extent, even those who receive no random [[equipment]], because sometimes players demand unusually high starting [[stats]].
-Many experienced players consider startscumming to be [[Cheating#degenerate_behavior]] and recommend that new players not do it, saying it will not help them learn how to play the game with weaker characters.
+Many experienced players consider startscumming to be [[Cheating#degenerate_behavior|degenerate behavior]] and recommend that new players not do it, saying it will not help them learn how to play the game with weaker characters.
 Startscumming for specific items is sometimes a necessary or very important part of [[conduct]]s: for instance, a [[Zen]] player needs to start with a blindfold to be able to attempt the conduct, and a gametime [[speedrun]] will be extremely difficult without a [[tonal instrument]]. Most players do not consider this kind of startscumming to be abusive.

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−	'''Start scumming''' is ~~a simple abuse that involves~~ immediately [[quit]]ting characters that do not meet some arbitrary criteria. [[Wizard]]s are most often the victim of this [[scumming]] behavior, due to their useful starting magical equipment. For example, a player may startscum Wizards looking for a very good starting spell (such as {{spell of\|identify}} or {{spell of\|magic missile}}). Every [[role]] is startscummed to some extent, even those who receive no random [[equipment]], because sometimes players demand unusually high starting [[stats]].	+	'''Start scumming''' (or ''startscumming'') is the act of immediately [[quit]]ting characters that do not meet some arbitrary criteria. [[Wizard]]s are most often the victim of this [[scumming]] behavior, due to their useful starting magical equipment. For example, a player may startscum Wizards looking for a very good starting spell (such as {{spell of\|identify}} or {{spell of\|magic missile}}). Every [[role]] is startscummed to some extent, even those who receive no random [[equipment]], because sometimes players demand unusually high starting [[stats]].
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		+	Many experienced players consider startscumming to be [[Cheating#degenerate_behavior]] and recommend that new players not do it, saying it will not help them learn how to play the game with weaker characters.
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		+	Startscumming for specific items is sometimes a necessary or very important part of [[conduct]]s: for instance, a [[Zen]] player needs to start with a blindfold to be able to attempt the conduct, and a gametime [[speedrun]] will be extremely difficult without a [[tonal instrument]]. Most players do not consider this kind of startscumming to be abusive.

	On [[nethack.alt.org]], startscumming has been defined as a [[quit]] or [[escape]] with less than a thousand [[points]]. This is by no means a perfect definition, as players sometimes commit suicide instead of quitting, and sometimes players quit or escape with no intention of scumming (such as when they accidentally choose the wrong [[role]]).		On [[nethack.alt.org]], startscumming has been defined as a [[quit]] or [[escape]] with less than a thousand [[points]]. This is by no means a perfect definition, as players sometimes commit suicide instead of quitting, and sometimes players quit or escape with no intention of scumming (such as when they accidentally choose the wrong [[role]]).

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−	'''Start scumming''' is a simple abuse that involves immediately [[quit]]ting characters that do not meet some arbitrary criteria. [[Wizard]]s are most often the victim of this [[scumming]] behavior, due to their useful starting magical equipment. For example, a player may startscum Wizards looking for a very good starting spell (such as ~~[[spellbook~~ of ~~identify~~\|identify]] or ~~[[spellbook~~ of ~~magic missile~~\|magic missile]]). Every [[role]] is startscummed to some extent, even those who receive no random [[equipment]], because sometimes players demand unusually high starting [[stats]].	+	'''Start scumming''' is a simple abuse that involves immediately [[quit]]ting characters that do not meet some arbitrary criteria. [[Wizard]]s are most often the victim of this [[scumming]] behavior, due to their useful starting magical equipment. For example, a player may startscum Wizards looking for a very good starting spell (such as {{spell of\|identify}} or {{spell of\|magic missile}}). Every [[role]] is startscummed to some extent, even those who receive no random [[equipment]], because sometimes players demand unusually high starting [[stats]].

	On [[nethack.alt.org]], startscumming has been defined as a [[quit]] or [[escape]] with less than a thousand [[points]]. This is by no means a perfect definition, as players sometimes commit suicide instead of quitting, and sometimes players quit or escape with no intention of scumming (such as when they accidentally choose the wrong [[role]]).		On [[nethack.alt.org]], startscumming has been defined as a [[quit]] or [[escape]] with less than a thousand [[points]]. This is by no means a perfect definition, as players sometimes commit suicide instead of quitting, and sometimes players quit or escape with no intention of scumming (such as when they accidentally choose the wrong [[role]]).

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 '''Start scumming''' is a simple abuse that involves immediately [[quit]]ting characters that do not meet some arbitrary criteria. [[Wizard]]s are most often the victim of this [[scumming]] behavior, due to their useful starting magical equipment. For example, a player may startscum Wizards looking for a very good starting spell (such as [[spellbook of identify|identify]] or [[spellbook of magic missile|magic missile]]). Every [[role]] is startscummed to some extent, even those who receive no random [[equipment]], because sometimes players demand unusually high starting [[stats]].
-On [[nethack.alt.org]], startscumming has been defined as a [[quit]] or [[escape]] with less than a thousand [[points]]. This is by no means a perfect definition, as players sometimes commit suicide instead of quitting (to hide their cheating), and sometimes players quit or escape with no intention of scumming (such as when they accidentally choose the wrong [[role]]).
+On [[nethack.alt.org]], startscumming has been defined as a [[quit]] or [[escape]] with less than a thousand [[points]]. This is by no means a perfect definition, as players sometimes commit suicide instead of quitting, and sometimes players quit or escape with no intention of scumming (such as when they accidentally choose the wrong [[role]]).
 Many NAO scripts that generate stats based on the [[logfile]] (including [[Rodney (bot)|Rodney]]'s death announcements) ignore startscums as they have defined them. This is partly because about 34% of games on nethack.alt.org fall under their definition of startscumming; more than half of those scums are Wizards.

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-'''Start scumming''' is a simple abuse that involves immediately [[quit]]ting characters that do not meet some arbitrary criteria. [[Wizard]]s are most often the victim of this behavior, due to their useful starting magical equipment. For example, a player may startscum Wizards looking for a very good starting spell (such as [[spellbook of identify|identify]] or [[spellbook of magic missile|magic missile]]). Every [[role]] is startscumming to some extent, even those who receive no random [[equipment]], because sometimes players demand unusually high starting [[stats]].
+'''Start scumming''' is a simple abuse that involves immediately [[quit]]ting characters that do not meet some arbitrary criteria. [[Wizard]]s are most often the victim of this [[scumming]] behavior, due to their useful starting magical equipment. For example, a player may startscum Wizards looking for a very good starting spell (such as [[spellbook of identify|identify]] or [[spellbook of magic missile|magic missile]]). Every [[role]] is startscummed to some extent, even those who receive no random [[equipment]], because sometimes players demand unusually high starting [[stats]].
-On [[nethack.alt.org]], startscumming has been defined as a [[quit]] or [[escape]] with less than a thousand [[points]]. This is by no means a perfect definition, as players sometimes commit suicide instead of quitting (so as not to appear as startscumming), and sometimes players quit or escape with no intention of scumming (such as when they accidentally choose the wrong [[role]]).
+On [[nethack.alt.org]], startscumming has been defined as a [[quit]] or [[escape]] with less than a thousand [[points]]. This is by no means a perfect definition, as players sometimes commit suicide instead of quitting (to hide their cheating), and sometimes players quit or escape with no intention of scumming (such as when they accidentally choose the wrong [[role]]).
-Many scripts that generate stats based on the [[logfile]] (including [[Rodney (bot)|Rodney]]'s death announcements) ignore startscums as they have defined them. This is partly because about 34% of games on nethack.alt.org fall under their definition of startscumming; more than half of those scums are Wizards.
+Many NAO scripts that generate stats based on the [[logfile]] (including [[Rodney (bot)|Rodney]]'s death announcements) ignore startscums as they have defined them. This is partly because about 34% of games on nethack.alt.org fall under their definition of startscumming; more than half of those scums are Wizards.
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