Talk:Alchemy - Revision history

Qazmlpok: /* slashem amnesia alchemy */

2011-09-18T12:51:22Z

‎slashem amnesia alchemy

Tjr: /* slashem amnesia alchemy */ new section

2011-09-18T09:37:19Z

‎slashem amnesia alchemy: new section

Qazmlpok: /* SLASH'EM Number of Gems/Potions */

2011-08-16T18:05:46Z

‎SLASH'EM Number of Gems/Potions

AileTheAlien: made headings for old comments

2011-08-16T18:02:58Z

made headings for old comments

AileTheAlien: /* SLASH'EM Number of Gems/Potions */ new section

2011-08-16T17:51:01Z

‎SLASH'EM Number of Gems/Potions: new section

189.18.89.121: /* Slash'Em Gem Identifying? */

2010-01-21T18:48:56Z

‎Slash'Em Gem Identifying?

189.18.89.121: /* Slash'Em Gem Identifying? */

2010-01-21T18:48:43Z

‎Slash'Em Gem Identifying?

189.18.89.121: /* Slash'Em Gem Identifying? */

2010-01-21T18:47:36Z

‎Slash'Em Gem Identifying?

Chelseafan528: /* Color Alchemy */

2009-12-18T16:57:07Z

‎Color Alchemy

64.81.96.143 at 02:21, 8 October 2009

2009-10-08T02:21:59Z

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	''"however the vapors caused by an explosion will cause you to forget spells, items and levels"'' Is it really true vapors of amnesia will delete your spells? In vanilla, that's reserved to the blessed scroll only. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 09:37, 18 September 2011 (UTC)		''"however the vapors caused by an explosion will cause you to forget spells, items and levels"'' Is it really true vapors of amnesia will delete your spells? In vanilla, that's reserved to the blessed scroll only. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 09:37, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
		+	:Yep, just confirmed it in wizard mode. Starting wizard lost all 4 spells. It seems to be somewhat random; I'm not losing a spell every time but it does happen. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 12:51, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

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	Do you need one potion of acid for every gem you want to convert, or can you use one potion of acid for an entire stack of stones and get a stack corresponding potions? --[[User:AileTheAlien\|AileTheAlien]] 17:51, 16 August 2011 (UTC)		Do you need one potion of acid for every gem you want to convert, or can you use one potion of acid for an entire stack of stones and get a stack corresponding potions? --[[User:AileTheAlien\|AileTheAlien]] 17:51, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
	:One potion of acid and one gem gives you one new potion. You can't use stacks in the recipes at all. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 18:05, 16 August 2011 (UTC)		:One potion of acid and one gem gives you one new potion. You can't use stacks in the recipes at all. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 18:05, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
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		+	== slashem amnesia alchemy ==
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		+	''"however the vapors caused by an explosion will cause you to forget spells, items and levels"'' Is it really true vapors of amnesia will delete your spells? In vanilla, that's reserved to the blessed scroll only. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 09:37, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

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	Do you need one potion of acid for every gem you want to convert, or can you use one potion of acid for an entire stack of stones and get a stack corresponding potions? --[[User:AileTheAlien\|AileTheAlien]] 17:51, 16 August 2011 (UTC)		Do you need one potion of acid for every gem you want to convert, or can you use one potion of acid for an entire stack of stones and get a stack corresponding potions? --[[User:AileTheAlien\|AileTheAlien]] 17:51, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
		+	:One potion of acid and one gem gives you one new potion. You can't use stacks in the recipes at all. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 18:05, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

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 This article asserts that alchemizing for potions of gain level is not worth it. I happen to disagree, and I would very much like to see the author of this claim justify it.
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 : Well, since nobody has come forth to defend the article text, I went ahead and reversed the offending text. I also cleaned up the rest of the article and fixed a number of other bugs in the process. [[User:Djao|Djao]] 21:11, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 I also disagree with calling the potion of sickness recipe "mostly useless".  Although !oS aren't everyone's cup of tea, poisoned missile weapons are strictly superior to unpoisoned if you're not lawful, plus it's nice to have a few to chuck at your quest nemesis or Death.  Besides, !oFJ are even LESS useful and hard to dilute, so it's not like you're losing much. --[[User:66.23.133.55|66.23.133.55]] 16:09, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 I posit that the "difficult" recipe to make enlightenment isn't as hard as the author implies.  While it's true that only 30% of your _first_ dip become enlightenment, recall that 2.5% become sickness, which can become fruit juice (for free).  This, plus your original fruit juice and extra speed can become booze, which combine with the 60% of your original alchemy (and your randomly generated booze) to form a frankly massive stack of booze.  One valuable potion of enlightenment is required to turn these into confusion, allowing you to try for enlightenment again.  Repeat this cycle a few times, and most of your potions do in fact make it to enlightenment.  (which you can further alchemize into gain level, of course.)[[Special:Contributions/64.81.96.143|64.81.96.143]] 02:21, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

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		+	Do you need one potion of acid for every gem you want to convert, or can you use one potion of acid for an entire stack of stones and get a stack corresponding potions? --[[User:AileTheAlien\|AileTheAlien]] 17:51, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

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 In Slash'EM, the article says dipping a gem into a potion will change its colour and resultantly the actual potion it is. So would dipping unidentified gems (As in could be worthless glass OR a valuable gem) at least allow you to manually identify them? Or would unid'd gems not have an effect? In this case Slash'EM makes gem identifying easier if what I suggested is true. --[[Special:Contributions/82.20.24.40|82.20.24.40]] 07:04, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
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 Yes but only works for potion of acid as article says

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	In Slash'EM, the article says dipping a gem into a potion will change its colour and resultantly the actual potion it is. So would dipping unidentified gems (As in could be worthless glass OR a valuable gem) at least allow you to manually identify them? Or would unid'd gems not have an effect? In this case Slash'EM makes gem identifying easier if what I suggested is true. --[[Special:Contributions/82.20.24.40\|82.20.24.40]] 07:04, 16 May 2009 (UTC)		In Slash'EM, the article says dipping a gem into a potion will change its colour and resultantly the actual potion it is. So would dipping unidentified gems (As in could be worthless glass OR a valuable gem) at least allow you to manually identify them? Or would unid'd gems not have an effect? In this case Slash'EM makes gem identifying easier if what I suggested is true. --[[Special:Contributions/82.20.24.40\|82.20.24.40]] 07:04, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
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 == Color Alchemy ==
 [[@Play]] #7 talks about color alchemy patch. It might be good to mention it here.
 ==minor points==

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	I also disagree with calling the potion of sickness recipe "mostly useless". Although !oS aren't everyone's cup of tea, poisoned missile weapons are strictly superior to unpoisoned if you're not lawful, plus it's nice to have a few to chuck at your quest nemesis or Death. Besides, !oFJ are even LESS useful and hard to dilute, so it's not like you're losing much. --[[User:66.23.133.55\|66.23.133.55]] 16:09, 27 August 2007 (UTC)		I also disagree with calling the potion of sickness recipe "mostly useless". Although !oS aren't everyone's cup of tea, poisoned missile weapons are strictly superior to unpoisoned if you're not lawful, plus it's nice to have a few to chuck at your quest nemesis or Death. Besides, !oFJ are even LESS useful and hard to dilute, so it's not like you're losing much. --[[User:66.23.133.55\|66.23.133.55]] 16:09, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
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		+	I posit that the "difficult" recipe to make enlightenment isn't as hard as the author implies. While it's true that only 30% of your _first_ dip become enlightenment, recall that 2.5% become sickness, which can become fruit juice (for free). This, plus your original fruit juice and extra speed can become booze, which combine with the 60% of your original alchemy (and your randomly generated booze) to form a frankly massive stack of booze. One valuable potion of enlightenment is required to turn these into confusion, allowing you to try for enlightenment again. Repeat this cycle a few times, and most of your potions do in fact make it to enlightenment. (which you can further alchemize into gain level, of course.)[[Special:Contributions/64.81.96.143\|64.81.96.143]] 02:21, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

	== Stacking ==		== Stacking ==