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		<title>Ais523: moved Talk:Ascension Run to Talk:Ascension run: fix capitalisation</title>
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		<updated>2011-12-01T14:14:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;moved &lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Talk:Ascension_Run&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Ascension Run (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;Talk:Ascension Run&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Talk:Ascension_run&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Ascension run&quot;&gt;Talk:Ascension run&lt;/a&gt;: fix capitalisation&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 14:14, 1 December 2011&lt;/td&gt;
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		<author><name>Ais523</name></author>
		
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		<title>Ion frigate at 01:13, 28 June 2011</title>
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		<updated>2011-06-28T01:13:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Nonclassical games==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Nonclassical games==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Not everybody takes on Rodney last. For example, in a Maud-style speed run, it can be perfectly reasonable to do the book first, and only then get the other artifacts, candles, and vibrating square. INHO the ascension run is when you plan to depend only on items you are carrying, and don't do anything that isn't strictly required to win the game. --[[Special:Contributions/217.253.250.21|217.253.250.21]] 21:42, 27 June 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Not everybody takes on Rodney last. For example, in a Maud-style speed run, it can be perfectly reasonable to do the book first, and only then get the other artifacts, candles, and vibrating square. INHO the ascension run is when you plan to depend only on items you are carrying, and don't do anything that isn't strictly required to win the game. --[[Special:Contributions/217.253.250.21|217.253.250.21]] 21:42, 27 June 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:Hence the section title &amp;quot;''Rough'' phases&amp;quot;.  And honestly, do we need to mention strategies that people who do sub-3000 turn ascensions use?  This wiki isn't for them.  You're not going to learn how to do a sub-3000 turn ascension from a wiki - you're going to learn it from asking the people who accomplish such feats in IRC, or watching ttyrecs. -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 01:13, 28 June 2011 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>217.253.250.21: counterexample: maud run</title>
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		<updated>2011-06-27T21:42:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;counterexample: maud run&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Nonclassical games==&lt;br /&gt;
Not everybody takes on Rodney last. For example, in a Maud-style speed run, it can be perfectly reasonable to do the book first, and only then get the other artifacts, candles, and vibrating square. INHO the ascension run is when you plan to depend only on items you are carrying, and don't do anything that isn't strictly required to win the game. --[[Special:Contributions/217.253.250.21|217.253.250.21]] 21:42, 27 June 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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