Talk:Attribute - Revision history

Derekt75: /* Separate pages */

2021-06-28T00:17:10Z

‎Separate pages

Actual-nh: /* Separate pages */ Agreed

2021-06-26T15:30:46Z

‎Separate pages: Agreed

Darth l33t: /* Separate pages */

2021-06-26T14:38:31Z

‎Separate pages

Darth l33t: /* Separate pages */ new section

2021-06-26T14:37:46Z

‎Separate pages: new section

Qazmlpok: /* Strength bug in 3.6? */

2016-03-04T18:25:53Z

‎Strength bug in 3.6?

Funcrunch: /* Strength bug in 3.6? */ new section

2016-03-04T17:27:19Z

‎Strength bug in 3.6?: new section

Verras: /* Removing "Strength affects bear trap escape" */

2016-01-12T02:45:05Z

‎Removing "Strength affects bear trap escape"

Verras: /* Removing "Strength affects bear trap escape" */

2015-12-30T22:34:16Z

‎Removing "Strength affects bear trap escape"

Verras: /* Removing "Strength affects bear trap escape" */ new section

2015-12-30T22:33:48Z

‎Removing "Strength affects bear trap escape": new section

Erica: answer

2012-02-21T03:43:14Z

answer

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	: Agreed. -[[User:Actual-nh\|Actual-nh]] ([[User talk:Actual-nh\|talk]]) 15:30, 26 June 2021 (UTC)		: Agreed. -[[User:Actual-nh\|Actual-nh]] ([[User talk:Actual-nh\|talk]]) 15:30, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
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		+	: Agreed. I feel like we should have comprehensive lists of what exercises and abuses attributes. I agree that the current page is unwieldy. [[User:Derekt75\|Derekt75]] ([[User talk:Derekt75\|talk]]) 00:17, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

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	If we're going to have comprehensive lists of what exercises and abuses each attribute (and I'm not sure that we should), I think it might be time to give each attribute its own page. The current attributes pages is a little unwieldly at this point, the references alone won't fit on a single screen on my monitor. --[[User:Darth l33t\|Darth l33t]] ([[User talk:Darth l33t\|talk]]) 14:37, 26 June 2021 (UTC)		If we're going to have comprehensive lists of what exercises and abuses each attribute (and I'm not sure that we should), I think it might be time to give each attribute its own page. The current attributes pages is a little unwieldly at this point, the references alone won't fit on a single screen on my monitor. --[[User:Darth l33t\|Darth l33t]] ([[User talk:Darth l33t\|talk]]) 14:37, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
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		+	: Agreed. -[[User:Actual-nh\|Actual-nh]] ([[User talk:Actual-nh\|talk]]) 15:30, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

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	== Separate pages ==		== Separate pages ==

−	If we're going to have comprehensive lists of what exercises and abuses each attribute (and I'm not sure that we should), I think it might be time to give each attribute its own page. The current attributes pages is a little unwieldly at this point. --[[User:Darth l33t\|Darth l33t]] ([[User talk:Darth l33t\|talk]]) 14:37, 26 June 2021 (UTC)	+	If we're going to have comprehensive lists of what exercises and abuses each attribute (and I'm not sure that we should), I think it might be time to give each attribute its own page. The current attributes pages is a little unwieldly at this point, the references alone won't fit on a single screen on my monitor. --[[User:Darth l33t\|Darth l33t]] ([[User talk:Darth l33t\|talk]]) 14:37, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

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	I'm playing a chaotic monk, unburdened, not hungry, and pushing boulders around in Sokoban. I get the message "You feel weak! You haven't been exercising properly." My strength was at 18/01 and decreased to 18/00. I got the "You feel weak!" message and strength decrease earlier in this game as well, without any obvious abuse of of that stat. Is this a bug or just a fluke? (I'm playing version 3.6 on NAO.) [[User:Funcrunch\|Funcrunch]] ([[User talk:Funcrunch\|talk]]) 17:27, 4 March 2016 (UTC)		I'm playing a chaotic monk, unburdened, not hungry, and pushing boulders around in Sokoban. I get the message "You feel weak! You haven't been exercising properly." My strength was at 18/01 and decreased to 18/00. I got the "You feel weak!" message and strength decrease earlier in this game as well, without any obvious abuse of of that stat. Is this a bug or just a fluke? (I'm playing version 3.6 on NAO.) [[User:Funcrunch\|Funcrunch]] ([[User talk:Funcrunch\|talk]]) 17:27, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
	:Probably not. At 18/01, pushing boulders around won't exercise strength, since exercise isn't possible once you hit 18 in that attribute. So all it takes is a single act of abuse and some bad luck to lose a point. And there's a lot of things that can abuse strength, including: acid attacks, explosions, air elemental's engulf attack, Xan's leg prick, falling rock traps (even if wearing a hard helmet), magic missile attacks. Any one of those could potentially do it. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] ([[User talk:Qazmlpok\|talk]]) 18:25, 4 March 2016 (UTC)		:Probably not. At 18/01, pushing boulders around won't exercise strength, since exercise isn't possible once you hit 18 in that attribute. So all it takes is a single act of abuse and some bad luck to lose a point. And there's a lot of things that can abuse strength, including: acid attacks, explosions, air elemental's engulf attack, Xan's leg prick, falling rock traps (even if wearing a hard helmet), magic missile attacks. Any one of those could potentially do it. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] ([[User talk:Qazmlpok\|talk]]) 18:25, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
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		+	== Separate pages ==
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		+	If we're going to have comprehensive lists of what exercises and abuses each attribute (and I'm not sure that we should), I think it might be time to give each attribute its own page. The current attributes pages is a little unwieldly at this point. --[[User:Darth l33t\|Darth l33t]] ([[User talk:Darth l33t\|talk]]) 14:37, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

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	I'm playing a chaotic monk, unburdened, not hungry, and pushing boulders around in Sokoban. I get the message "You feel weak! You haven't been exercising properly." My strength was at 18/01 and decreased to 18/00. I got the "You feel weak!" message and strength decrease earlier in this game as well, without any obvious abuse of of that stat. Is this a bug or just a fluke? (I'm playing version 3.6 on NAO.) [[User:Funcrunch\|Funcrunch]] ([[User talk:Funcrunch\|talk]]) 17:27, 4 March 2016 (UTC)		I'm playing a chaotic monk, unburdened, not hungry, and pushing boulders around in Sokoban. I get the message "You feel weak! You haven't been exercising properly." My strength was at 18/01 and decreased to 18/00. I got the "You feel weak!" message and strength decrease earlier in this game as well, without any obvious abuse of of that stat. Is this a bug or just a fluke? (I'm playing version 3.6 on NAO.) [[User:Funcrunch\|Funcrunch]] ([[User talk:Funcrunch\|talk]]) 17:27, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
		+	:Probably not. At 18/01, pushing boulders around won't exercise strength, since exercise isn't possible once you hit 18 in that attribute. So all it takes is a single act of abuse and some bad luck to lose a point. And there's a lot of things that can abuse strength, including: acid attacks, explosions, air elemental's engulf attack, Xan's leg prick, falling rock traps (even if wearing a hard helmet), magic missile attacks. Any one of those could potentially do it. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] ([[User talk:Qazmlpok\|talk]]) 18:25, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

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	[[Source:NetHack_3.4.3/src/trap.c#line764]]		[[Source:NetHack_3.4.3/src/trap.c#line764]]
	——[[User:Verras\|Verras]] ([[User talk:Verras\|talk]]) 02:45, 12 January 2016 (UTC)		——[[User:Verras\|Verras]] ([[User talk:Verras\|talk]]) 02:45, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
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		+	== Strength bug in 3.6? ==
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		+	I'm playing a chaotic monk, unburdened, not hungry, and pushing boulders around in Sokoban. I get the message "You feel weak! You haven't been exercising properly." My strength was at 18/01 and decreased to 18/00. I got the "You feel weak!" message and strength decrease earlier in this game as well, without any obvious abuse of of that stat. Is this a bug or just a fluke? (I'm playing version 3.6 on NAO.) [[User:Funcrunch\|Funcrunch]] ([[User talk:Funcrunch\|talk]]) 17:27, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

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	[[Source:NetHack 3.4.3/src/hack.c#line1239]] --[[User:Verras\|Verras]] ([[User talk:Verras\|talk]]) 22:34, 30 December 2015 (UTC)		[[Source:NetHack 3.4.3/src/hack.c#line1239]] --[[User:Verras\|Verras]] ([[User talk:Verras\|talk]]) 22:34, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
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		+	(Found the real relevant source)
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		+	[[Source:NetHack_3.6.0/src/trap.c#line996]]
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		+	[[Source:NetHack_3.4.3/src/trap.c#line764]]
		+	——[[User:Verras\|Verras]] ([[User talk:Verras\|talk]]) 02:45, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

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	[[Source:NetHack 3.6.0/src/hack.c#line1069]]		[[Source:NetHack 3.6.0/src/hack.c#line1069]]

−	[[Source:NetHack 3.4.3/src/hack.c#line1239]]	+	[[Source:NetHack 3.4.3/src/hack.c#line1239]] --[[User:Verras\|Verras]] ([[User talk:Verras\|talk]]) 22:34, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

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	Is there any meaning to the Nethack brass entries that read "''12!''" instead of "12"? [[User:Derekt75\|Derekt75]] 01:03, 21 February 2012 (UTC)		Is there any meaning to the Nethack brass entries that read "''12!''" instead of "12"? [[User:Derekt75\|Derekt75]] 01:03, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
	:The entries with the exclamation marks are the spellcasting stats for each role (wisdom for Healers, Priests, Monks, Valkyries, Knights; intelligence for the other roles). --[[User:Erica\|Erica]] 03:43, 21 February 2012 (UTC)		:The entries with the exclamation marks are the spellcasting stats for each role (wisdom for Healers, Priests, Monks, Valkyries, Knights; intelligence for the other roles). --[[User:Erica\|Erica]] 03:43, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
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		+	== Removing "Strength affects bear trap escape" ==
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		+	"Strength of at least 18 speeds escape from a bear trap.{{fact}}"
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		+	Can't find a citation, only source that contradicts the statement.
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		+	[[Source:NetHack 3.6.0/src/hack.c#line1069]]
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		+	[[Source:NetHack 3.4.3/src/hack.c#line1239]]

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	Is there any meaning to the Nethack brass entries that read "''12!''" instead of "12"? [[User:Derekt75\|Derekt75]] 01:03, 21 February 2012 (UTC)		Is there any meaning to the Nethack brass entries that read "''12!''" instead of "12"? [[User:Derekt75\|Derekt75]] 01:03, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
		+	:The entries with the exclamation marks are the spellcasting stats for each role (wisdom for Healers, Priests, Monks, Valkyries, Knights; intelligence for the other roles). --[[User:Erica\|Erica]] 03:43, 21 February 2012 (UTC)