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71.123.205.9: /* blessed to cursed in no time */

2012-04-04T04:10:36Z

‎blessed to cursed in no time

Ion frigate: /* blessed to cursed in no time */

2012-04-04T03:48:25Z

‎blessed to cursed in no time

71.123.205.9: /* blessed to cursed in no time */

2012-04-04T01:53:08Z

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Ion frigate: /* blessed to cursed in no time */

2012-04-04T00:05:58Z

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Ion frigate: /* blessed to cursed in no time */

2012-04-04T00:03:30Z

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71.123.205.9: /* blessed to cursed in no time */

2012-04-03T22:22:43Z

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Ion frigate: /* blessed to cursed in no time */

2012-04-03T05:11:39Z

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Ion frigate: /* blessed to cursed in no time */

2012-04-03T05:09:24Z

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71.123.205.9: /* blessed to cursed in no time */ new section

2012-04-02T18:41:52Z

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Furrykef: "Always uncursed, etc."

2012-01-26T20:25:40Z

"Always uncursed, etc."

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	Im not being weighed down, also am wearing speed boots. first time down there i was paralyzed. Then the nasties just stacked. NO there not hard to kill, it is the amount of them. every other turn or so they will summon more. Getting bashed on by 8 different bad guys that will be replaced is a handfull. Any suggestions to clear it out? Or at least the Nalfeshees'? As far as the bags i meant putting a bag of holding in a regular bag. if the normal bag was cursed would all the contents be too? THANKS for all the help. It has helped. Hopefully i dont die, to many close call s >.>		Im not being weighed down, also am wearing speed boots. first time down there i was paralyzed. Then the nasties just stacked. NO there not hard to kill, it is the amount of them. every other turn or so they will summon more. Getting bashed on by 8 different bad guys that will be replaced is a handfull. Any suggestions to clear it out? Or at least the Nalfeshees'? As far as the bags i meant putting a bag of holding in a regular bag. if the normal bag was cursed would all the contents be too? THANKS for all the help. It has helped. Hopefully i dont die, to many close call s >.>
	:Oh sorry, I read "regular" as "uncursed" - yes, putting a bag of holding in a sack will protect it from getting cursed, at a cost of making items in the bag of holding require two turns to access (that's deadly in the case of stoning, though your lizard corpses should be in open inventory anyway), plus possibly another turn to put the bag of holding back in. As for clearing it out, Elbereth and a strong weapon. Go for the summoners, or get out of their LOS. Levelport will also work, if you have a cursed scroll of teleportation or a source of confusion and an uncursed one. How'd you get paralyzed, though? A thrown potion wouldn't last near long enough for monsters to fill up the level. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 03:48, 4 April 2012 (UTC)		:Oh sorry, I read "regular" as "uncursed" - yes, putting a bag of holding in a sack will protect it from getting cursed, at a cost of making items in the bag of holding require two turns to access (that's deadly in the case of stoning, though your lizard corpses should be in open inventory anyway), plus possibly another turn to put the bag of holding back in. As for clearing it out, Elbereth and a strong weapon. Go for the summoners, or get out of their LOS. Levelport will also work, if you have a cursed scroll of teleportation or a source of confusion and an uncursed one. How'd you get paralyzed, though? A thrown potion wouldn't last near long enough for monsters to fill up the level. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 03:48, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
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		+	They threw a potion of parlyze(sp). The problems just compounded from there. Found out dispater was with them, or got there somehow. unbeknowst to my knowledge he followed me up some levels brought more badies, ended up smacking him once every time he tel'd in and out in the levels that look like a maze. Glad I can save my BoH from mass cursing. I decided to put one of MANY different kinds of glass in my inventory. 1 each. I shall be heading back to moloch or whatever under the castle. I musyt be unlucky with all this crap >.> Rather a newb more likly. this is my.... oh idk made it 30 times forther than any two of all the times i died. i should find some forum or something i suppose

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	Im not being weighed down, also am wearing speed boots. first time down there i was paralyzed. Then the nasties just stacked. NO there not hard to kill, it is the amount of them. every other turn or so they will summon more. Getting bashed on by 8 different bad guys that will be replaced is a handfull. Any suggestions to clear it out? Or at least the Nalfeshees'? As far as the bags i meant putting a bag of holding in a regular bag. if the normal bag was cursed would all the contents be too? THANKS for all the help. It has helped. Hopefully i dont die, to many close call s >.>		Im not being weighed down, also am wearing speed boots. first time down there i was paralyzed. Then the nasties just stacked. NO there not hard to kill, it is the amount of them. every other turn or so they will summon more. Getting bashed on by 8 different bad guys that will be replaced is a handfull. Any suggestions to clear it out? Or at least the Nalfeshees'? As far as the bags i meant putting a bag of holding in a regular bag. if the normal bag was cursed would all the contents be too? THANKS for all the help. It has helped. Hopefully i dont die, to many close call s >.>
		+	:Oh sorry, I read "regular" as "uncursed" - yes, putting a bag of holding in a sack will protect it from getting cursed, at a cost of making items in the bag of holding require two turns to access (that's deadly in the case of stoning, though your lizard corpses should be in open inventory anyway), plus possibly another turn to put the bag of holding back in. As for clearing it out, Elbereth and a strong weapon. Go for the summoners, or get out of their LOS. Levelport will also work, if you have a cursed scroll of teleportation or a source of confusion and an uncursed one. How'd you get paralyzed, though? A thrown potion wouldn't last near long enough for monsters to fill up the level. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 03:48, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

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	:No, putting one bag in another will invariably cause them both to explode, destroying all their contents. You can attempt to avoid this by stacking the inner bag inside nested stacks, but you need seven to do this, and it still has a chance (6.25%) of exploding. Bags do protect their contents from being cursed, though.		:No, putting one bag in another will invariably cause them both to explode, destroying all their contents. You can attempt to avoid this by stacking the inner bag inside nested stacks, but you need seven to do this, and it still has a chance (6.25%) of exploding. Bags do protect their contents from being cursed, though.
	:Nalfeshnees are not particularly difficult enemies, by the way; the only way they could fill up the map with nasties like that is if you're doing a pitiful amount of damage. Sort through your stash and bags, pick out the enchant armor/weapon scrolls and good artifact weapons and magical armor, enchant it all up, then seriously, throw the rest in the nearest lava pit. What on earth are you carrying that's weighing you down so much? -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 00:03, 4 April 2012 (UTC)		:Nalfeshnees are not particularly difficult enemies, by the way; the only way they could fill up the map with nasties like that is if you're doing a pitiful amount of damage. Sort through your stash and bags, pick out the enchant armor/weapon scrolls and good artifact weapons and magical armor, enchant it all up, then seriously, throw the rest in the nearest lava pit. What on earth are you carrying that's weighing you down so much? -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 00:03, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
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		+	Im not being weighed down, also am wearing speed boots. first time down there i was paralyzed. Then the nasties just stacked. NO there not hard to kill, it is the amount of them. every other turn or so they will summon more. Getting bashed on by 8 different bad guys that will be replaced is a handfull. Any suggestions to clear it out? Or at least the Nalfeshees'? As far as the bags i meant putting a bag of holding in a regular bag. if the normal bag was cursed would all the contents be too? THANKS for all the help. It has helped. Hopefully i dont die, to many close call s >.>

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 It is the Nalfeshnee, there were four now three. I cant reach them. So many nasties. I put on a towel, but the map is full! I have mc3 and mr. I could put a blessed bag in a regular bag?? would the bag get cursed and curse the contents?
 :No, putting one bag in another will invariably cause them both to explode, destroying all their contents.  You can attempt to avoid this by stacking the inner bag inside nested stacks, but you need seven to do this, and it still has a chance (6.25%) of exploding.  Bags do protect their contents from being cursed, though.
-:Nalfeshnees are not particularly difficult enemies, by the way.  Sort through your stash and bags, pick out the enchant armor/weapon scrolls and good artifact weapons and magical armor, enchant it all up, then seriously, throw the rest in the nearest lava pit.  What on earth are you carrying that's weighing you down so much? -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 00:03, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
+:Nalfeshnees are not particularly difficult enemies, by the way; the only way they could fill up the map with nasties like that is if you're doing a pitiful amount of damage.  Sort through your stash and bags, pick out the enchant armor/weapon scrolls and good artifact weapons and magical armor, enchant it all up, then seriously, throw the rest in the nearest lava pit.  What on earth are you carrying that's weighing you down so much? -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 00:03, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

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	It is the Nalfeshnee, there were four now three. I cant reach them. So many nasties. I put on a towel, but the map is full! I have mc3 and mr. I could put a blessed bag in a regular bag?? would the bag get cursed and curse the contents?		It is the Nalfeshnee, there were four now three. I cant reach them. So many nasties. I put on a towel, but the map is full! I have mc3 and mr. I could put a blessed bag in a regular bag?? would the bag get cursed and curse the contents?
		+	:No, putting one bag in another will invariably cause them both to explode, destroying all their contents. You can attempt to avoid this by stacking the inner bag inside nested stacks, but you need seven to do this, and it still has a chance (6.25%) of exploding. Bags do protect their contents from being cursed, though.
		+	:Nalfeshnees are not particularly difficult enemies, by the way. Sort through your stash and bags, pick out the enchant armor/weapon scrolls and good artifact weapons and magical armor, enchant it all up, then seriously, throw the rest in the nearest lava pit. What on earth are you carrying that's weighing you down so much? -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 00:03, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

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	:[[Magic resistance]] or [[half spell damage]] reduces the items cursed to 1d3, both together to 1d2. The spell is a melee spell, so [[Elbereth]] will stop many monsters from being able to cast it at you (notable exceptions include the [[Wizard of Yendor]] and [[Archon]]s). Learning the [[Spellbook of remove curse\|remove curse spell]] can greatly reduce the need for holy water, as you will only then need it to bless items that need to be blessed, such as [[luckstone]]s. Saturating your inventory with junk items, such as gems (okay, they're not junk per se, but it doesn't matter if they're cursed), can reduce the chance of something you care about getting cursed. Writing [[scroll of remove curse\|remove curse scrolls]] also helps reduce the need for holy water, as it can uncurse your entire inventory in one go.		:[[Magic resistance]] or [[half spell damage]] reduces the items cursed to 1d3, both together to 1d2. The spell is a melee spell, so [[Elbereth]] will stop many monsters from being able to cast it at you (notable exceptions include the [[Wizard of Yendor]] and [[Archon]]s). Learning the [[Spellbook of remove curse\|remove curse spell]] can greatly reduce the need for holy water, as you will only then need it to bless items that need to be blessed, such as [[luckstone]]s. Saturating your inventory with junk items, such as gems (okay, they're not junk per se, but it doesn't matter if they're cursed), can reduce the chance of something you care about getting cursed. Writing [[scroll of remove curse\|remove curse scrolls]] also helps reduce the need for holy water, as it can uncurse your entire inventory in one go.
	:Also, you should be keeping your uncursing gear (holy water/scrolls of remove curse for most items, wand of cancellation for bags of holding) with you, safely in bags. Not something that belongs in a stash, really. Also, what demons are these you're encountering below the Castle? [[Nalfeshnee]]s? Or is it [[Demogorgon]], [[Dispater]], or [[Orcus]]? -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 05:09, 3 April 2012 (UTC)		:Also, you should be keeping your uncursing gear (holy water/scrolls of remove curse for most items, wand of cancellation for bags of holding) with you, safely in bags. Not something that belongs in a stash, really. Also, what demons are these you're encountering below the Castle? [[Nalfeshnee]]s? Or is it [[Demogorgon]], [[Dispater]], or [[Orcus]]? -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 05:09, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
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		+	It is the Nalfeshnee, there were four now three. I cant reach them. So many nasties. I put on a towel, but the map is full! I have mc3 and mr. I could put a blessed bag in a regular bag?? would the bag get cursed and curse the contents?

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 MY PROBLEM , my things keep getting cursed. An entire inventory of them. How can i stop this, or at least slow this process? My stash is on lvl 4. going back and forth is frusterating
 :[[Magic resistance]] or [[half spell damage]] reduces the items cursed to 1d3, both together to 1d2.  The spell is a melee spell, so [[Elbereth]] will stop many monsters from being able to cast it at you (notable exceptions include the [[Wizard of Yendor]] and [[Archon]]s).  Learning the [[Spellbook of remove curse|remove curse spell]] can greatly reduce the need for holy water, as you will only then need it to bless items that need to be blessed, such as [[luckstone]]s.  Saturating your inventory with junk items, such as gems (okay, they're not junk per se, but it doesn't matter if they're cursed), can reduce the chance of something you care about getting cursed.  Writing [[scroll of remove curse|remove curse scrolls]] also helps reduce the need for holy water, as it can uncurse your entire inventory in one go.
-:Also, you should be keeping your uncursing gear (holy water/scrolls of remove curse for most items, wand of cancellation for bags of holding) with you, safely in bags.  Not something that belongs in a stash, really. -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 05:09, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
+:Also, you should be keeping your uncursing gear (holy water/scrolls of remove curse for most items, wand of cancellation for bags of holding) with you, safely in bags.  Not something that belongs in a stash, really.  Also, what demons are these you're encountering below the Castle?  [[Nalfeshnee]]s?  Or is it [[Demogorgon]], [[Dispater]], or [[Orcus]]? -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 05:09, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

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	I keep having items uncursed or blessed become cursed rather quickly. There are these demons in... well below the castle level. They keep summoning more and more and more monsters. I can deal with that. All be it rather slowly, Ive only killed one of the fetchers and three left. Got to wade through hordes of never ending monsters to get them.		I keep having items uncursed or blessed become cursed rather quickly. There are these demons in... well below the castle level. They keep summoning more and more and more monsters. I can deal with that. All be it rather slowly, Ive only killed one of the fetchers and three left. Got to wade through hordes of never ending monsters to get them.
	MY PROBLEM , my things keep getting cursed. An entire inventory of them. How can i stop this, or at least slow this process? My stash is on lvl 4. going back and forth is frusterating		MY PROBLEM , my things keep getting cursed. An entire inventory of them. How can i stop this, or at least slow this process? My stash is on lvl 4. going back and forth is frusterating
		+	:[[Magic resistance]] or [[half spell damage]] reduces the items cursed to 1d3, both together to 1d2. The spell is a melee spell, so [[Elbereth]] will stop many monsters from being able to cast it at you (notable exceptions include the [[Wizard of Yendor]] and [[Archon]]s). Learning the [[Spellbook of remove curse\|remove curse spell]] can greatly reduce the need for holy water, as you will only then need it to bless items that need to be blessed, such as [[luckstone]]s. Saturating your inventory with junk items, such as gems (okay, they're not junk per se, but it doesn't matter if they're cursed), can reduce the chance of something you care about getting cursed. Writing [[scroll of remove curse\|remove curse scrolls]] also helps reduce the need for holy water, as it can uncurse your entire inventory in one go.
		+	:Also, you should be keeping your uncursing gear (holy water/scrolls of remove curse for most items, wand of cancellation for bags of holding) with you, safely in bags. Not something that belongs in a stash, really. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 05:09, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

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	== Always uncursed, etc. ==		== Always uncursed, etc. ==
	I think we should make note of items that are always generated uncursed (or always cursed, or whatever applies). I tried reading the game's source code to obtain this information, but I couldn't make sense of it. - [[User:Furrykef\|Furrykef]] 20:25, 26 January 2012 (UTC)		I think we should make note of items that are always generated uncursed (or always cursed, or whatever applies). I tried reading the game's source code to obtain this information, but I couldn't make sense of it. - [[User:Furrykef\|Furrykef]] 20:25, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
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		+	I keep having items uncursed or blessed become cursed rather quickly. There are these demons in... well below the castle level. They keep summoning more and more and more monsters. I can deal with that. All be it rather slowly, Ive only killed one of the fetchers and three left. Got to wade through hordes of never ending monsters to get them.
		+	MY PROBLEM , my things keep getting cursed. An entire inventory of them. How can i stop this, or at least slow this process? My stash is on lvl 4. going back and forth is frusterating

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	::*Lumping together: Many players will only vaguely remember something, and come to the wiki looking for details. I believe it is appropriate to mention "neighboring" subjects.		::*Lumping together: Many players will only vaguely remember something, and come to the wiki looking for details. I believe it is appropriate to mention "neighboring" subjects.
	::In any case, I'm glad you have corrected a misconception, and are still pointing to potential problems.-[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 17:17, 6 November 2011 (UTC)		::In any case, I'm glad you have corrected a misconception, and are still pointing to potential problems.-[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 17:17, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
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		+	== Always uncursed, etc. ==
		+	I think we should make note of items that are always generated uncursed (or always cursed, or whatever applies). I tried reading the game's source code to obtain this information, but I couldn't make sense of it. - [[User:Furrykef\|Furrykef]] 20:25, 26 January 2012 (UTC)