Talk:Bad Idea - Revision history

Wikid: /* Clean-up */ YANWI

2026-01-24T01:15:40Z

‎Clean-up: YANWI

Wikid: /* Clean-up */ YANWI

2026-01-23T20:42:19Z

‎Clean-up: YANWI

Tjr: Text replace - "Wikihack" to "NetHackWiki"

2010-11-11T18:41:41Z

Text replace - "Wikihack" to "NetHackWiki"

DemonDoll at 15:56, 17 June 2009

2009-06-17T15:56:22Z

Tjr at 14:01, 17 June 2009

2009-06-17T14:01:41Z

DemonDoll at 12:31, 9 June 2009

2009-06-09T12:31:02Z

218.185.63.188: /* Clean-up */ a word from the page's original author.

2009-06-09T07:58:54Z

‎Clean-up: a word from the page's original author.

Kahran042 at 01:23, 6 June 2009

2009-06-06T01:23:03Z

DemonDoll at 20:55, 5 June 2009

2009-06-05T20:55:13Z

DemonDoll at 20:45, 5 June 2009

2009-06-05T20:45:32Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 01:15, 24 January 2026
Line 18:		Line 18:
	:It was just an idea and I almost certainly don't have the time or will to execute it. I certainly don't have the power to remove pages so don't worry. I have no experience in making wiki pages and don't wanna put that stench all over NetHackWiki but if anyone wants to take my idea and run with it, they certainly should. [[User:DemonDoll\|DemonDoll]] 12:31, 9 June 2009 (UTC)		:It was just an idea and I almost certainly don't have the time or will to execute it. I certainly don't have the power to remove pages so don't worry. I have no experience in making wiki pages and don't wanna put that stench all over NetHackWiki but if anyone wants to take my idea and run with it, they certainly should. [[User:DemonDoll\|DemonDoll]] 12:31, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

−	This is a great page. I'd like to suggest consolidating ideas where they are already listed on other pages, e.g. as I've done with cockatrice YASDs and link to [[Stoning#Instant stoning \| instant stoning]]. Similar could be done with [[Shop#Angering_the_shopkeeper\|angering shopkeepers]] and [[Genocide#Restrictions on genocide\|genocide]]. After that it might be interesting to think about organising, e.g., early versus late game bad ideas as suggested 17 years ago. --[[User:Wikid\|Wikid]] ([[User talk:Wikid\|talk]]) 20:42, 23 January 2026 (UTC)	+	This is a great page. I'd like to suggest consolidating ideas where they are already listed on other pages, e.g. as I've done with cockatrice YASDs and link to [[Stoning#Instant stoning \| instant stoning]]. Similar could be done with [[Shop#Angering_the_shopkeeper\|angering shopkeepers]] and [[Genocide#Restrictions on genocide\|genocide]]. After that it might be interesting to think about organising, e.g., early versus late game bad ideas as suggested 17 years ago. Oh, and splitting entries into canonical Bad Ideas that generate the in-game message, versus Bad Ideas most people would agree on but that don't generate the message --[[User:Wikid\|Wikid]] ([[User talk:Wikid\|talk]]) 01:15, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

← Older revision		Revision as of 20:42, 23 January 2026
Line 17:		Line 17:

	:It was just an idea and I almost certainly don't have the time or will to execute it. I certainly don't have the power to remove pages so don't worry. I have no experience in making wiki pages and don't wanna put that stench all over NetHackWiki but if anyone wants to take my idea and run with it, they certainly should. [[User:DemonDoll\|DemonDoll]] 12:31, 9 June 2009 (UTC)		:It was just an idea and I almost certainly don't have the time or will to execute it. I certainly don't have the power to remove pages so don't worry. I have no experience in making wiki pages and don't wanna put that stench all over NetHackWiki but if anyone wants to take my idea and run with it, they certainly should. [[User:DemonDoll\|DemonDoll]] 12:31, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
		+
		+	This is a great page. I'd like to suggest consolidating ideas where they are already listed on other pages, e.g. as I've done with cockatrice YASDs and link to [[Stoning#Instant stoning \| instant stoning]]. Similar could be done with [[Shop#Angering_the_shopkeeper\|angering shopkeepers]] and [[Genocide#Restrictions on genocide\|genocide]]. After that it might be interesting to think about organising, e.g., early versus late game bad ideas as suggested 17 years ago. --[[User:Wikid\|Wikid]] ([[User talk:Wikid\|talk]]) 20:42, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

← Older revision		Revision as of 18:41, 11 November 2010
Line 16:		Line 16:
	I wrote the original "Bad Idea" page, and it's there for amusement. It'd be sad to see the page get removed completely, it would be like not hyperlinking "Don't Panic" in a HHGTTG Wiki. I do wholeheartedly agree that a well written How To Play Nethack To Win page would be very useful. I've been playing forever and I've never ascended (even in the days when you didn't need to kick the Wizard in the balls while holding your left hand behind your back back while whistling dixie in the rain while riding a wilderbeast naked in a field of flowers while being chased by buxom vampiric virgins). --[[Special:Contributions/218.185.63.188\|218.185.63.188]] 07:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)		I wrote the original "Bad Idea" page, and it's there for amusement. It'd be sad to see the page get removed completely, it would be like not hyperlinking "Don't Panic" in a HHGTTG Wiki. I do wholeheartedly agree that a well written How To Play Nethack To Win page would be very useful. I've been playing forever and I've never ascended (even in the days when you didn't need to kick the Wizard in the balls while holding your left hand behind your back back while whistling dixie in the rain while riding a wilderbeast naked in a field of flowers while being chased by buxom vampiric virgins). --[[Special:Contributions/218.185.63.188\|218.185.63.188]] 07:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

−	:It was just an idea and I almost certainly don't have the time or will to execute it. I certainly don't have the power to remove pages so don't worry. I have no experience in making wiki pages and don't wanna put that stench all over ~~Wikihack~~ but if anyone wants to take my idea and run with it, they certainly should. [[User:DemonDoll\|DemonDoll]] 12:31, 9 June 2009 (UTC)	+	:It was just an idea and I almost certainly don't have the time or will to execute it. I certainly don't have the power to remove pages so don't worry. I have no experience in making wiki pages and don't wanna put that stench all over NetHackWiki but if anyone wants to take my idea and run with it, they certainly should. [[User:DemonDoll\|DemonDoll]] 12:31, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

← Older revision		Revision as of 15:56, 17 June 2009
Line 6:		Line 6:
	:: Well, I for one think "don't play Nethack when there is work to do" and also "Don't try to ascend when drowsy" are excellent pieces of advice and no jokes. They are just not strictly in-game, rather concern the human committing all those YASDs. And they are certainly not something a power gamer wants to hear. Perhaps there could be some kind of "meta-advice" section this kind of stuff can be restored to. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 14:01, 17 June 2009 (UTC)		:: Well, I for one think "don't play Nethack when there is work to do" and also "Don't try to ascend when drowsy" are excellent pieces of advice and no jokes. They are just not strictly in-game, rather concern the human committing all those YASDs. And they are certainly not something a power gamer wants to hear. Perhaps there could be some kind of "meta-advice" section this kind of stuff can be restored to. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 14:01, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

		+	::: Those examples aren't equivalent; "Don't try to ascend when drowsy" is excellent advice because a small mistake can easily end the game, and this is a wiki dedicated to helping people beat the game (people, not avatars, so advice for the human is perfectly legitimate). "Don't play Nethack when there is work to do" is trying to mother people who should know better and has nothing to do with making them better Nethack players. It belongs on the WikiHowToNotSuckAtLife page. [[User:DemonDoll\|DemonDoll]] 15:56, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

	== Clean-up ==		== Clean-up ==

← Older revision		Revision as of 14:01, 17 June 2009
Line 3:		Line 3:

	:It doesn't fit the tone of a reference on the subject of Nethack. Although the page "Bad Idea" could be argued to be humorous in nature, every bullet point offers good advice to the player. Putting in an entry that is just a joke does not fit. [[User:DemonDoll\|DemonDoll]] 20:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)		:It doesn't fit the tone of a reference on the subject of Nethack. Although the page "Bad Idea" could be argued to be humorous in nature, every bullet point offers good advice to the player. Putting in an entry that is just a joke does not fit. [[User:DemonDoll\|DemonDoll]] 20:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
		+
		+	:: Well, I for one think "don't play Nethack when there is work to do" and also "Don't try to ascend when drowsy" are excellent pieces of advice and no jokes. They are just not strictly in-game, rather concern the human committing all those YASDs. And they are certainly not something a power gamer wants to hear. Perhaps there could be some kind of "meta-advice" section this kind of stuff can be restored to. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 14:01, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
		+

	== Clean-up ==		== Clean-up ==

← Older revision		Revision as of 12:31, 9 June 2009
Line 11:		Line 11:

	I wrote the original "Bad Idea" page, and it's there for amusement. It'd be sad to see the page get removed completely, it would be like not hyperlinking "Don't Panic" in a HHGTTG Wiki. I do wholeheartedly agree that a well written How To Play Nethack To Win page would be very useful. I've been playing forever and I've never ascended (even in the days when you didn't need to kick the Wizard in the balls while holding your left hand behind your back back while whistling dixie in the rain while riding a wilderbeast naked in a field of flowers while being chased by buxom vampiric virgins). --[[Special:Contributions/218.185.63.188\|218.185.63.188]] 07:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)		I wrote the original "Bad Idea" page, and it's there for amusement. It'd be sad to see the page get removed completely, it would be like not hyperlinking "Don't Panic" in a HHGTTG Wiki. I do wholeheartedly agree that a well written How To Play Nethack To Win page would be very useful. I've been playing forever and I've never ascended (even in the days when you didn't need to kick the Wizard in the balls while holding your left hand behind your back back while whistling dixie in the rain while riding a wilderbeast naked in a field of flowers while being chased by buxom vampiric virgins). --[[Special:Contributions/218.185.63.188\|218.185.63.188]] 07:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
		+
		+	:It was just an idea and I almost certainly don't have the time or will to execute it. I certainly don't have the power to remove pages so don't worry. I have no experience in making wiki pages and don't wanna put that stench all over Wikihack but if anyone wants to take my idea and run with it, they certainly should. [[User:DemonDoll\|DemonDoll]] 12:31, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

← Older revision		Revision as of 07:58, 9 June 2009
Line 8:		Line 8:
	Come to think of it, maybe the pages "Bad Idea" and "YASD" and "Lessons learned the hard way" and maybe other should be consolidated under some "General tips" page. They all offer good advice but are sometimes repetitive and hard to find. OH MAN, HERE'S SOMETHING EVEN BETTER!!! OH HERE'S A GREAT IDEA FRESH OFF THE DD RACK!!! We should make a consolidated tips page sorted by player skill! That way a new player won't have to wade through the crap about foocatrices and liches and the godamned drawbridge until he/she needs to which will allow him/her to learn the lessons that are actually needed on the first few dungeon levels. I deserve a cookie for this idea. Thoughts, anyone? [[User:DemonDoll\|DemonDoll]] 20:55, 5 June 2009 (UTC)		Come to think of it, maybe the pages "Bad Idea" and "YASD" and "Lessons learned the hard way" and maybe other should be consolidated under some "General tips" page. They all offer good advice but are sometimes repetitive and hard to find. OH MAN, HERE'S SOMETHING EVEN BETTER!!! OH HERE'S A GREAT IDEA FRESH OFF THE DD RACK!!! We should make a consolidated tips page sorted by player skill! That way a new player won't have to wade through the crap about foocatrices and liches and the godamned drawbridge until he/she needs to which will allow him/her to learn the lessons that are actually needed on the first few dungeon levels. I deserve a cookie for this idea. Thoughts, anyone? [[User:DemonDoll\|DemonDoll]] 20:55, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
	:You don't deserve a cookie for that idea. You deserve a whole batch of cookies. If there's anything a lowly source diver can do to help, let me know. --[[User:Kahran042\|Kahran042]] 01:23, 6 June 2009 (UTC)		:You don't deserve a cookie for that idea. You deserve a whole batch of cookies. If there's anything a lowly source diver can do to help, let me know. --[[User:Kahran042\|Kahran042]] 01:23, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
		+
		+
		+	I wrote the original "Bad Idea" page, and it's there for amusement. It'd be sad to see the page get removed completely, it would be like not hyperlinking "Don't Panic" in a HHGTTG Wiki. I do wholeheartedly agree that a well written How To Play Nethack To Win page would be very useful. I've been playing forever and I've never ascended (even in the days when you didn't need to kick the Wizard in the balls while holding your left hand behind your back back while whistling dixie in the rain while riding a wilderbeast naked in a field of flowers while being chased by buxom vampiric virgins). --[[Special:Contributions/218.185.63.188\|218.185.63.188]] 07:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

← Older revision		Revision as of 01:23, 6 June 2009
Line 7:		Line 7:

	Come to think of it, maybe the pages "Bad Idea" and "YASD" and "Lessons learned the hard way" and maybe other should be consolidated under some "General tips" page. They all offer good advice but are sometimes repetitive and hard to find. OH MAN, HERE'S SOMETHING EVEN BETTER!!! OH HERE'S A GREAT IDEA FRESH OFF THE DD RACK!!! We should make a consolidated tips page sorted by player skill! That way a new player won't have to wade through the crap about foocatrices and liches and the godamned drawbridge until he/she needs to which will allow him/her to learn the lessons that are actually needed on the first few dungeon levels. I deserve a cookie for this idea. Thoughts, anyone? [[User:DemonDoll\|DemonDoll]] 20:55, 5 June 2009 (UTC)		Come to think of it, maybe the pages "Bad Idea" and "YASD" and "Lessons learned the hard way" and maybe other should be consolidated under some "General tips" page. They all offer good advice but are sometimes repetitive and hard to find. OH MAN, HERE'S SOMETHING EVEN BETTER!!! OH HERE'S A GREAT IDEA FRESH OFF THE DD RACK!!! We should make a consolidated tips page sorted by player skill! That way a new player won't have to wade through the crap about foocatrices and liches and the godamned drawbridge until he/she needs to which will allow him/her to learn the lessons that are actually needed on the first few dungeon levels. I deserve a cookie for this idea. Thoughts, anyone? [[User:DemonDoll\|DemonDoll]] 20:55, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
		+	:You don't deserve a cookie for that idea. You deserve a whole batch of cookies. If there's anything a lowly source diver can do to help, let me know. --[[User:Kahran042\|Kahran042]] 01:23, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

← Older revision		Revision as of 20:55, 5 June 2009
Line 3:		Line 3:

	:It doesn't fit the tone of a reference on the subject of Nethack. Although the page "Bad Idea" could be argued to be humorous in nature, every bullet point offers good advice to the player. Putting in an entry that is just a joke does not fit. [[User:DemonDoll\|DemonDoll]] 20:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)		:It doesn't fit the tone of a reference on the subject of Nethack. Although the page "Bad Idea" could be argued to be humorous in nature, every bullet point offers good advice to the player. Putting in an entry that is just a joke does not fit. [[User:DemonDoll\|DemonDoll]] 20:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
		+
		+	== Clean-up ==
		+
		+	Come to think of it, maybe the pages "Bad Idea" and "YASD" and "Lessons learned the hard way" and maybe other should be consolidated under some "General tips" page. They all offer good advice but are sometimes repetitive and hard to find. OH MAN, HERE'S SOMETHING EVEN BETTER!!! OH HERE'S A GREAT IDEA FRESH OFF THE DD RACK!!! We should make a consolidated tips page sorted by player skill! That way a new player won't have to wade through the crap about foocatrices and liches and the godamned drawbridge until he/she needs to which will allow him/her to learn the lessons that are actually needed on the first few dungeon levels. I deserve a cookie for this idea. Thoughts, anyone? [[User:DemonDoll\|DemonDoll]] 20:55, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

← Older revision		Revision as of 20:45, 5 June 2009
Line 1:		Line 1:
	Why was "Playing NetHack when you know you have a lot of other things to do!" removed? I suggest reverting.		Why was "Playing NetHack when you know you have a lot of other things to do!" removed? I suggest reverting.
	--[[User:Stevko sk\|Stevko sk]] 20:13, 5 June 2009 (UTC)		--[[User:Stevko sk\|Stevko sk]] 20:13, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
		+
		+	:It doesn't fit the tone of a reference on the subject of Nethack. Although the page "Bad Idea" could be argued to be humorous in nature, every bullet point offers good advice to the player. Putting in an entry that is just a joke does not fit. [[User:DemonDoll\|DemonDoll]] 20:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC)