Talk:Big Room - Revision history

Phol ende wodan at 02:47, 20 July 2016

2016-07-20T02:47:05Z

Ozymandias at 19:50, 22 July 2013

2013-07-22T19:50:29Z

Tjr: moved an unclear passage here.

2010-06-30T21:40:45Z

moved an unclear passage here.

Tjr: /* never seen it! */

2009-06-18T10:48:10Z

‎never seen it!

84.70.139.69: /* never seen it! */ new section

2009-06-17T21:30:50Z

‎never seen it!: new section

Killian: /* Does Big Room always exsist? */ nope, it doesn't always exist

2008-10-20T05:14:26Z

‎Does Big Room always exsist?: nope, it doesn't always exist

Skelwing: /* Does Big Room always exsist? */ new section

2008-10-19T18:48:07Z

‎Does Big Room always exsist?: new section

58.169.0.203: First version to have Big Room?

2007-01-22T10:59:51Z

First version to have Big Room?

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== First version to have Big Room? ==

I seem to recall having Big Room #1 in some generation of 3.0 when playing on an Amiga in the early 90s. The version I played had a Big Room, but no Mines or Quests and Rodney had the AoY in his possession. However, this article and also the article on [[3.1.1]] claim that the Big Room first appeared in 3.1.1. Some verification is needed. - posted by John, unregistered.

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	:I know it's possible for a dungeon to lack a big room. The NetHack Gazetteer claims that there's a 40% chance of there being one in any particular game. -- [[User:Killian\|Killian]] 05:14, 20 October 2008 (UTC)		:I know it's possible for a dungeon to lack a big room. The NetHack Gazetteer claims that there's a 40% chance of there being one in any particular game. -- [[User:Killian\|Killian]] 05:14, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
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		+	::It would be good to have a source on the 40%. Source diving for special levels is tricky, so I'm not ''entirely'' sure that this is it, but line 10 of dat/dungeon.pdf (it's a plain text file, not a pdf) is <code>RNDLEVEL: "bigrm" "B" @ (10, 3) 40 10</code>. doc/dgn_comp.6, which appears to define the grammar for this file, states that the form for this command is <code>RNDLEVEL: name bonesmarker @ (base, rand) [ percentage ] rndlevs</code>. So the big room is named "bigrm", with bones code B, it generates in a 3-level range starting at 10, it has a 40% chance of generating and 10 variants. I'm not sure how to cite a source from dat and doc though. --[[User:Phol ende wodan\|Phol ende wodan]] ([[User talk:Phol ende wodan\|talk]]) 02:47, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

	== never seen it! ==		== never seen it! ==

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	: Some debuggers like to use the big room with plugged entrances and exits (done by creating a 3x3 pile of boulders centered on both staircases) to prevent monster entrance and exit.		: Some debuggers like to use the big room with plugged entrances and exits (done by creating a 3x3 pile of boulders centered on both staircases) to prevent monster entrance and exit.
	[[Dracojounin7]] inserted the above paragraph. Perhaps it means the Big Room is his/her favorite wizmode playground. I think this passage is neither clear nor relevant and should be removed. [[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 21:40, June 30, 2010 (UTC)		[[Dracojounin7]] inserted the above paragraph. Perhaps it means the Big Room is his/her favorite wizmode playground. I think this passage is neither clear nor relevant and should be removed. [[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 21:40, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
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		+	== Mandelbrot Big Room ==
		+	used in some variants
		+	https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/unnethack/changeset/1510
		+	--[[User:Ozymandias\|Ozymandias]] ([[User talk:Ozymandias\|talk]]) 19:50, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

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	: Given the large amount of random features, almost anybody hasn't seen all of them. People usually only take note of the few features they haven't yet seen, so it isn't that unusual. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:48, 18 June 2009 (UTC)		: Given the large amount of random features, almost anybody hasn't seen all of them. People usually only take note of the few features they haven't yet seen, so it isn't that unusual. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:48, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
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		+	==Favorite wizmode playground - is this really relevant?==
		+	: Some debuggers like to use the big room with plugged entrances and exits (done by creating a 3x3 pile of boulders centered on both staircases) to prevent monster entrance and exit.
		+	[[Dracojounin7]] inserted the above paragraph. Perhaps it means the Big Room is his/her favorite wizmode playground. I think this passage is neither clear nor relevant and should be removed. [[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 21:40, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

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	I've never seen a big room and I've been playing Nethack for ages. Is this unusual?		I've never seen a big room and I've been playing Nethack for ages. Is this unusual?
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		+	: Given the large amount of random features, almost anybody hasn't seen all of them. People usually only take note of the few features they haven't yet seen, so it isn't that unusual. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:48, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

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	:I know it's possible for a dungeon to lack a big room. The NetHack Gazetteer claims that there's a 40% chance of there being one in any particular game. -- [[User:Killian\|Killian]] 05:14, 20 October 2008 (UTC)		:I know it's possible for a dungeon to lack a big room. The NetHack Gazetteer claims that there's a 40% chance of there being one in any particular game. -- [[User:Killian\|Killian]] 05:14, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
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		+	== never seen it! ==
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		+	I've never seen a big room and I've been playing Nethack for ages. Is this unusual?

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 I seem to recall having Big Room #1 in some generation of 3.0 when playing on an Amiga in the early 90s.  The version I played had a Big Room, but no Mines or Quests and Rodney had the AoY in his possession.  However, this article and also the article on [[3.1.1]] claim that the Big Room first appeared in 3.1.1.  Some verification is needed. - posted by John, unregistered.
-== Does Big Room always exsist? ==
+== Does Big Room always exist? ==
 I seem to recall reading somewhere that there is only a 33.3% chance of the Big Room appearing in any particular game. Is this still true? [[User:Skelwing|Skelwing]] 18:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

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	I seem to recall having Big Room #1 in some generation of 3.0 when playing on an Amiga in the early 90s. The version I played had a Big Room, but no Mines or Quests and Rodney had the AoY in his possession. However, this article and also the article on [[3.1.1]] claim that the Big Room first appeared in 3.1.1. Some verification is needed. - posted by John, unregistered.		I seem to recall having Big Room #1 in some generation of 3.0 when playing on an Amiga in the early 90s. The version I played had a Big Room, but no Mines or Quests and Rodney had the AoY in his possession. However, this article and also the article on [[3.1.1]] claim that the Big Room first appeared in 3.1.1. Some verification is needed. - posted by John, unregistered.
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		+	== Does Big Room always exsist? ==
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		+	I seem to recall reading somewhere that there is only a 33.3% chance of the Big Room appearing in any particular game. Is this still true? [[User:Skelwing\|Skelwing]] 18:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)