Talk:Blindness - Revision history

Furey: function -> function_343. Pin the function to its original version.

2024-06-28T10:39:55Z

function -> function_343. Pin the function to its original version.

Actual-nh: /* Unknown Message */ Can also be a figurine transforming

2021-07-04T01:39:04Z

‎Unknown Message: Can also be a figurine transforming

Umbire the Phantom: /* Unknown Message */

2021-07-03T22:45:13Z

‎Unknown Message

D4 wryyyy: /* Unknown Message */

2021-07-03T16:48:57Z

‎Unknown Message

Umbire the Phantom at 08:57, 3 July 2021

2021-07-03T08:57:01Z

D4 wryyyy at 04:20, 2 July 2021

2021-07-02T04:20:46Z

D4 wryyyy: /* Unknown Message */

2021-07-02T04:19:56Z

‎Unknown Message

D4 wryyyy at 04:15, 2 July 2021

2021-07-02T04:15:53Z

WarriorX90: /* Feeling for items on the ground */ new section

2017-10-19T09:15:57Z

‎Feeling for items on the ground: new section

Kdz: /* Your eyes momentarily itch. */

2015-01-27T23:54:43Z

‎Your eyes momentarily itch.

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 Apparently not, but I see a few limitations (besides the amount of work it takes):
-# Not all monsters are detectable by chatting.  Specifically, chatting to MS_SILENT monsters (and sleeping ones?) gives no message and consumes no turn, and there are some other special cases in {{function|sounds.c|domonnoise|x}} that act the same way.
+# Not all monsters are detectable by chatting.  Specifically, chatting to MS_SILENT monsters (and sleeping ones?) gives no message and consumes no turn, and there are some other special cases in {{function_343|sounds.c|domonnoise|x}} that act the same way.
 # Chatting to some monsters has side effects that you might want to avoid.  For example, chatting to [[werecreature]]s or [[giant]]s may wake nearby monsters, and chatting to [[foocubi]] may trigger their seduction attack (and subsequent teleport).
 # Finally, if the monster does make a sound, this also consumes a turn during which it may move.  The location you are shown will always be the one where it used to be, even if it moved away.

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	::Sounds like an [[egg]] hatched which you were blinded. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 22:45, 3 July 2021 (UTC)		::Sounds like an [[egg]] hatched which you were blinded. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 22:45, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
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		+	:::From a check of the code (timeout.c and apply.c), it's either that or a [[figurine]] transforming. -[[User:Actual-nh\|Actual-nh]] ([[User talk:Actual-nh\|talk]]) 01:38, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

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	:I don't know what caused the message or what its effect was >_< [[User:D4 wryyyy\|D4 wryyyy]] ([[User talk:D4 wryyyy\|talk]]) 16:48, 3 July 2021 (UTC)		:I don't know what caused the message or what its effect was >_< [[User:D4 wryyyy\|D4 wryyyy]] ([[User talk:D4 wryyyy\|talk]]) 16:48, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
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		+	::Sounds like an [[egg]] hatched which you were blinded. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 22:45, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

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	:Best to add new messages to the bottom. Also, if you can ask to have something added, you can also add it yourself - nothing wrong with a little boldness now and then. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 08:57, 3 July 2021 (UTC)		:Best to add new messages to the bottom. Also, if you can ask to have something added, you can also add it yourself - nothing wrong with a little boldness now and then. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 08:57, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
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		+	:I don't know what caused the message or what its effect was >_< [[User:D4 wryyyy\|D4 wryyyy]] ([[User talk:D4 wryyyy\|talk]]) 16:48, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

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 == Extra Benefit ==
 Is it my imagination, or can you discover secret passages just by walking into them when blind? --[[Special:Contributions/72.70.76.123|72.70.76.123]] 02:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
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 Does feeling for items on the ground use up any turns at all when compared to seeing them while not blind? [[User:WarriorX90|WarriorX90]] ([[User talk:WarriorX90|talk]]) 09:15, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

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 Need to add an entry for the message "You feel something drop from your pack!"
--[[User:D4 wryyyy|D4 wryyyy]] 23:15, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
+-[[User:d4 wryyyy|d4 wryyyy]] 23:15, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
 == Extra Benefit ==

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		+	== Unknown Message ==
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		+	Need to add an entry for the message "You feel something drop from your pack!"
		+	-[[User:D4_wryyyy\|D4_wryyyy]] 23:15, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
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	== Extra Benefit ==		== Extra Benefit ==
	Is it my imagination, or can you discover secret passages just by walking into them when blind? --[[Special:Contributions/72.70.76.123\|72.70.76.123]] 02:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)		Is it my imagination, or can you discover secret passages just by walking into them when blind? --[[Special:Contributions/72.70.76.123\|72.70.76.123]] 02:09, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

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	:I think it should be included as useful in a few cases. One particular place it would be useful is in a coaligned temple, if you lack telepathy. Monsters won't attack you there, so chatting is probably about the only good way to distinguish the priest. And inadvertently angering the priest is a very quick YASD. Also it could be useful in shops or in Minetown, especially for somewhat low-level characters. Personally I would just wait out the blindness, but sometimes that's not an option (like if you find yourself next to a mimic in a shop, for example).		:I think it should be included as useful in a few cases. One particular place it would be useful is in a coaligned temple, if you lack telepathy. Monsters won't attack you there, so chatting is probably about the only good way to distinguish the priest. And inadvertently angering the priest is a very quick YASD. Also it could be useful in shops or in Minetown, especially for somewhat low-level characters. Personally I would just wait out the blindness, but sometimes that's not an option (like if you find yourself next to a mimic in a shop, for example).
	:It does seem, however, that this is not useful to tell if a monster is your pet; walking into it while blind does not attack it or reduce its tameness apparently. Walking into an already-detected monster (an 'I') does attack it without asking for confirmation though, even if it is your pet. I suppose one might want to chat to those I's to make sure they aren't a pet, although pets tend to move around so much that that may not be useful. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 08:43, 7 January 2011 (UTC)		:It does seem, however, that this is not useful to tell if a monster is your pet; walking into it while blind does not attack it or reduce its tameness apparently. Walking into an already-detected monster (an 'I') does attack it without asking for confirmation though, even if it is your pet. I suppose one might want to chat to those I's to make sure they aren't a pet, although pets tend to move around so much that that may not be useful. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 08:43, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
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		+	== Feeling for items on the ground ==
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		+	Does feeling for items on the ground use up any turns at all when compared to seeing them while not blind? [[User:WarriorX90\|WarriorX90]] ([[User talk:WarriorX90\|talk]]) 09:15, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

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 == Your eyes momentarily itch. ==
-If temporarily blinded, such as by the gaze of a floating eye and then put blindfold, the message "Your eyes momentarily itch" seems to indicate that the temporary blindness has passed.  Of course, you still cannot see until you also remove your blindfold.  [[User:Kdz|Kdz]] ([[User talk:Kdz|talk]]) 23:53, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
+If temporarily blinded, such as by the gaze of a floating eye and then put blindfold, the message "Your eyes momentarily itch" seems to indicate that the temporary blindness has passed.  Of course, you still cannot see until you also remove your blindfold.  Maybe this message should redirect to the Blindness page. [[User:Kdz|Kdz]] ([[User talk:Kdz|talk]]) 23:53, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 == #chat to find monsters while blind ==