Talk:Bones - Revision history

Rancalred at 00:23, 18 February 2016

2016-02-18T00:23:03Z

Rancalred: Adding 3.6.0 details for future reference. More to come.

2016-02-18T00:18:53Z

Adding 3.6.0 details for future reference. More to come.

Bulwersator: /* UnNethank, N bone */ ::Thanks! ~~~~

2012-09-13T11:08:20Z

‎UnNethank, N bone: ::Thanks! ~~~~

Bhaak: /* UnNethank, N bone */

2012-09-12T11:07:38Z

‎UnNethank, N bone

Bulwersator: /* UnNethank, N bone */ new section

2012-09-12T10:58:55Z

‎UnNethank, N bone: new section

108.196.206.15: /* Special Enemy Cases */ new section

2012-07-03T22:00:22Z

‎Special Enemy Cases: new section

Tjr: /* Computed again */

2012-03-17T11:05:30Z

‎Computed again

Tjr: /* Computed again */

2012-03-17T10:34:57Z

‎Computed again

Tjr: /* Computed again */ The quest doesn't update maxlvl, but the mines seem to.

2012-03-17T10:29:39Z

‎Computed again: The quest doesn't update maxlvl, but the mines seem to.

Tjr: /* Computed again */ oops, the script assumed we always die on the lowest reached level.

2012-03-11T17:29:08Z

‎Computed again: oops, the script assumed we always die on the lowest reached level.

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 ==3. 6. 0==
-Bones Files can now span multiple levels,  Also,  Monster rising message. No longer guarantees bones generation
+Monster rising message No longer guarantees bones generation
 ——[[User:Rancalred|Rancalred]] ([[User talk:Rancalred|talk]]) 00:18, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

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	: This is the [[Nymph level]]. It can generate bones in Slash'Em as well, probably doesn't often because Slash'Em has so many branches that disallow bones creation. --[[User:Bhaak\|Bhaak]] ([[User talk:Bhaak\|talk]]) 11:07, 12 September 2012 (UTC)		: This is the [[Nymph level]]. It can generate bones in Slash'Em as well, probably doesn't often because Slash'Em has so many branches that disallow bones creation. --[[User:Bhaak\|Bhaak]] ([[User talk:Bhaak\|talk]]) 11:07, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
	::Thanks! [[User:Bulwersator\|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator\|talk]]) 11:08, 13 September 2012 (UTC)		::Thanks! [[User:Bulwersator\|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator\|talk]]) 11:08, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
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		+	==3. 6. 0==
		+	Bones Files can now span multiple levels, Also, Monster rising message. No longer guarantees bones generation
		+	——[[User:Rancalred\|Rancalred]] ([[User talk:Rancalred\|talk]]) 00:18, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

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	I play UnNethack and via [[hearse]] I received bonD0.N - not mentioned [[Bones#Bones_files_locations]]. What is this? [[User:Bulwersator\|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator\|talk]]) 10:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)		I play UnNethack and via [[hearse]] I received bonD0.N - not mentioned [[Bones#Bones_files_locations]]. What is this? [[User:Bulwersator\|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator\|talk]]) 10:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
	: This is the [[Nymph level]]. It can generate bones in Slash'Em as well, probably doesn't often because Slash'Em has so many branches that disallow bones creation. --[[User:Bhaak\|Bhaak]] ([[User talk:Bhaak\|talk]]) 11:07, 12 September 2012 (UTC)		: This is the [[Nymph level]]. It can generate bones in Slash'Em as well, probably doesn't often because Slash'Em has so many branches that disallow bones creation. --[[User:Bhaak\|Bhaak]] ([[User talk:Bhaak\|talk]]) 11:07, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
		+	::Thanks! [[User:Bulwersator\|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator\|talk]]) 11:08, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

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	I play UnNethack and via [[hearse]] I received bonD0.N - not mentioned [[Bones#Bones_files_locations]]. What is this? [[User:Bulwersator\|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator\|talk]]) 10:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)		I play UnNethack and via [[hearse]] I received bonD0.N - not mentioned [[Bones#Bones_files_locations]]. What is this? [[User:Bulwersator\|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator\|talk]]) 10:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
		+	: This is the [[Nymph level]]. It can generate bones in Slash'Em as well, probably doesn't often because Slash'Em has so many branches that disallow bones creation. --[[User:Bhaak\|Bhaak]] ([[User talk:Bhaak\|talk]]) 11:07, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

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	Similar to the items list, and depending on how many cases exist, a section should be made on how certain enemies are handled when creating bones; though the only case I'm aware of is that Rodney is removed from any bones files. [[Special:Contributions/108.196.206.15\|108.196.206.15]] 22:00, 3 July 2012 (UTC)		Similar to the items list, and depending on how many cases exist, a section should be made on how certain enemies are handled when creating bones; though the only case I'm aware of is that Rodney is removed from any bones files. [[Special:Contributions/108.196.206.15\|108.196.206.15]] 22:00, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
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		+	== UnNethank, N bone ==
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		+	I play UnNethack and via [[hearse]] I received bonD0.N - not mentioned [[Bones#Bones_files_locations]]. What is this? [[User:Bulwersator\|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator\|talk]]) 10:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

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	::should we just delete this section? I don't think it serves any purpose now? [[User:Derekt75\|Derekt75]] 03:28, 6 March 2012 (UTC)		::should we just delete this section? I don't think it serves any purpose now? [[User:Derekt75\|Derekt75]] 03:28, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
	:::No, it's usually for the best to never delete anything from talk pages (except for complete garbage e.g. spam) -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 03:52, 6 March 2012 (UTC)		:::No, it's usually for the best to never delete anything from talk pages (except for complete garbage e.g. spam) -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 03:52, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
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		+	== Special Enemy Cases ==
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		+	Similar to the items list, and depending on how many cases exist, a section should be made on how certain enemies are handled when creating bones; though the only case I'm aware of is that Rodney is removed from any bones files. [[Special:Contributions/108.196.206.15\|108.196.206.15]] 22:00, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

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 The caveats are: Level teleportation is not accounted for, nor is falling through a trap door. It's impossible to know the position of special (or no-bones) levels or the start of Gehennom. However, dungeon branches are handled correctly, since the maxlvl field apparently does not take side branches into account. --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 17:29, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 : Side branches: The quest doesn't update maxlvl, but the mines seem to. Strange. So the numbers aren't 100% correct - just as good as possible. --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 10:34, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 == help resolving content dispute ==

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 I've computed the time-averaged bones files probabilities on NAO again, using a script written by [[user:ais523]]. The chance there is a bones file on a main dungeons level on NAO at a random point in time is:
-* 4: 0.1582221830303063284840317454096510666323
+* 4: 0.1547511846836775447715105502479764867571
-* 5: 0.1703256103839180622187076305246813535304
+* 5: 0.1478537056264453506620888526216685258981
-* 6: 0.1633806417546205508601473086343776795105
+* 6: 0.1478876525104614122273581066905750571886
-* 7: 0.171480529712626343337413174075755374468
+* 7: 0.1478669703243205389593491231802649197253
-* 8: 0.2060356457956918983785303511609222479409
+* 8: 0.1667698418642088857837641540521407178459
-* 9: 0.1700725217671193910772863044269133850196
+* 9: 0.1441804131669007518196886939237243859469
-* 10: 0.1503261886541405593865682100489147450992
+* 10: 0.1170225888015347096256999107982347162246
-* 11: 0.1480591324205014180716613045369348149251
+* 11: 0.1018469652352790515987944742991927428424
-* 12: 0.1711787538486080036198165546639218536671
+* 12: 0.1094783968841858562614051034037854372576
-* 13: 0.128271702219221554324198197034217564282
+* 13: 0.0878966105648686890016115533362793500463
-* 14: 0.08828387103861423708634823588448848918163
+* 14: 0.08263193048110025829967934929664552739273
-* 15: 0.06786434875149013239716305117718667766278
+* 15: 0.06324534965687988089547515583016990122379
-* 16: 0.0736859991801518960228703803288368525882
+* 16: 0.06486923761599490215628323381673353386206
-* 17: 0.06058393267114809862949106342899047621463
+* 17: 0.05731343119972682472982280394033050849406
-* 18: 0.06464491407520057791126222336566633018887
+* 18: 0.05945107904185701748945360830157352170665
-* 19: 0.06873348171056565239999361685458836840643
+* 19: 0.06595812997792789948851010318194133374682
-* 20: 0.07295435821445856183778527990623603727042
+* 20: 0.06304646957494209524719855029492566320881
-* 21: 0.07811108659995893824248497143745634515591
+* 21: 0.06486383754144105946941176958641128266454
-The assumptions of the model are: For each line of the NAO xlogfile, the hero loads all bones from level 1 to dungeon-level maxlevel of the main dungeons. Then the hero dies, with the usual probability of leaving bones if he was in the main dungeons and the type of death was eligible. This is repeated for all lines of the xlogfile. Finally, we take the average of the computed chances there exists a bones file, over all xlogfile lines. --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 14:55, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
+The mode of computation is: For each line of the NAO xlogfile, the hero loads all bones starting from level 1 to dungeon-level maxlevel of the main dungeons. Then the hero dies, with the usual probability of leaving bones if he was in the main dungeons and the type of death was eligible. This is repeated for all lines of the xlogfile. Finally, we average the computed chances of bones over all xlogfile lines.
 == help resolving content dispute ==