Talk:Confusion - Revision history

Tjr: I'm not sure, it gets corner-casey.

2010-12-15T13:44:36Z

I'm not sure, it gets corner-casey.

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	::''"When reading scrolls, you will mispronounce the magic words, which will cause effects different from what would occur normally."'' --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 12:54, 15 December 2010 (UTC)		::''"When reading scrolls, you will mispronounce the magic words, which will cause effects different from what would occur normally."'' --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 12:54, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
	:::the page lists harmful or useful effects. my question was whether create monster would fall into either of these categories. it certainly isn't something you would guess would happen. should the page also list the trivial effects, for completeness sake? --[[Special:Contributions/195.50.80.61\|195.50.80.61]] 13:02, 15 December 2010 (UTC)		:::the page lists harmful or useful effects. my question was whether create monster would fall into either of these categories. it certainly isn't something you would guess would happen. should the page also list the trivial effects, for completeness sake? --[[Special:Contributions/195.50.80.61\|195.50.80.61]] 13:02, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
			::::I'm not sure. It gets pretty corner-casey if you try to list everything. For example, confused fire is good to unslime yourself, confused light is great if you want to avoid pole-arm accidents while [[death farming]], confused create monster is an excellent way to preempt the dangerous hordes on the Astral Plane, and confused remove curse can really ruin your day if you mis-IDd the scroll. Most of the confused effects belong firmly in the category "wasting resources", however. Attempting to give a balanced and exhaustive overview what confusion can do would risk making it hard to scan through irrelevenat information, and the material would have to be organized differently. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 13:44, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

195.50.80.61: /* scroll of create monster */ thank you

2010-12-15T13:02:21Z

scroll of create monster: thank you

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	==scroll of create monster==		==scroll of create monster==
	*doesn't this do something different if you're confused? is this a risk or a benefit? --[[Special:Contributions/195.50.80.61\|195.50.80.61]] 12:22, 15 December 2010 (UTC)		:doesn't this do something different if you're confused? is this a risk or a benefit? --[[Special:Contributions/195.50.80.61\|195.50.80.61]] 12:22, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
			::''"When reading scrolls, you will mispronounce the magic words, which will cause effects different from what would occur normally."'' --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 12:54, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
	: ''"When reading scrolls, you will mispronounce the magic words, which will cause effects different from what would occur normally."'' --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 12:54, 15 December 2010 (UTC)		:::the page lists harmful or useful effects. my question was whether create monster would fall into either of these categories. it certainly isn't something you would guess would happen. should the page also list the trivial effects, for completeness sake? --[[Special:Contributions/195.50.80.61\|195.50.80.61]] 13:02, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Tjr: already in there

2010-12-15T12:54:33Z

already in there

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	*doesn't this do something different if you're confused? is this a risk or a benefit? --[[Special:Contributions/195.50.80.61\|195.50.80.61]] 12:22, 15 December 2010 (UTC)		*doesn't this do something different if you're confused? is this a risk or a benefit? --[[Special:Contributions/195.50.80.61\|195.50.80.61]] 12:22, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

			: ''"When reading scrolls, you will mispronounce the magic words, which will cause effects different from what would occur normally."'' --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 12:54, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

195.50.80.61: /* scroll of create monster */ it's me that's confused

2010-12-15T12:22:22Z

scroll of create monster: it's me that's confused

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	Doesn't the chance you can't control levelport depend on Luck? --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 14:11, 22 November 2010 (UTC)		Doesn't the chance you can't control levelport depend on Luck? --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 14:11, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
	: You're right, I didn't notice it was [[rnl]]. Noted. --[[User:Ilmari Karonen\|Ilmari Karonen]] 15:10, 22 November 2010 (UTC)		: You're right, I didn't notice it was [[rnl]]. Noted. --[[User:Ilmari Karonen\|Ilmari Karonen]] 15:10, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

			==scroll of create monster==
			*doesn't this do something different if you're confused? is this a risk or a benefit? --[[Special:Contributions/195.50.80.61\|195.50.80.61]] 12:22, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Ilmari Karonen: you're right

2010-11-22T15:10:20Z

you're right

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	==Levelport and Luck==		==Levelport and Luck==
	Doesn't the chance you can't control levelport depend on Luck? --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 14:11, 22 November 2010 (UTC)		Doesn't the chance you can't control levelport depend on Luck? --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 14:11, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
			: You're right, I didn't notice it was [[rnl]]. Noted. --[[User:Ilmari Karonen\|Ilmari Karonen]] 15:10, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Tjr: levelport + control + confusion + luck?

2010-11-22T14:11:53Z

levelport + control + confusion + luck?

New page

==Levelport and Luck==
Doesn't the chance you can't control levelport depend on Luck? --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 14:11, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

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	::''"When reading scrolls, you will mispronounce the magic words, which will cause effects different from what would occur normally."'' --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 12:54, 15 December 2010 (UTC)		::''"When reading scrolls, you will mispronounce the magic words, which will cause effects different from what would occur normally."'' --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 12:54, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
	:::the page lists harmful or useful effects. my question was whether create monster would fall into either of these categories. it certainly isn't something you would guess would happen. should the page also list the trivial effects, for completeness sake? --[[Special:Contributions/195.50.80.61\|195.50.80.61]] 13:02, 15 December 2010 (UTC)		:::the page lists harmful or useful effects. my question was whether create monster would fall into either of these categories. it certainly isn't something you would guess would happen. should the page also list the trivial effects, for completeness sake? --[[Special:Contributions/195.50.80.61\|195.50.80.61]] 13:02, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
			::::I'm not sure. It gets pretty corner-casey if you try to list everything. For example, confused fire is good to unslime yourself, confused light is great if you want to avoid pole-arm accidents while [[death farming]], confused create monster is an excellent way to preempt the dangerous hordes on the Astral Plane, and confused remove curse can really ruin your day if you mis-IDd the scroll. Most of the confused effects belong firmly in the category "wasting resources", however. Attempting to give a balanced and exhaustive overview what confusion can do would risk making it hard to scan through irrelevenat information, and the material would have to be organized differently. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 13:44, 15 December 2010 (UTC)