Talk:Covetous - Revision history

Ion frigate: /* stealing non-coveted items */

2012-04-18T10:59:42Z

‎stealing non-coveted items

Ion frigate: /* stealing non-coveted items */

2012-04-18T10:58:56Z

‎stealing non-coveted items

Ion frigate at 10:55, 18 April 2012

2012-04-18T10:55:51Z

Ion frigate at 10:55, 18 April 2012

2012-04-18T10:55:33Z

Tjr: /* stealing non-coveted items */ new section

2012-04-18T07:58:51Z

‎stealing non-coveted items: new section

Slandor: /* which monsters have stealing attacks */ new section

2010-06-25T18:01:01Z

‎which monsters have stealing attacks: new section

MisplacedPixels at 19:29, 3 December 2008

2008-12-03T19:29:21Z

Tjr: New page: If you let Asmodeus steal the amulet for you in the Sanctum, will he follow if you levelport? ~~~~

2008-12-01T23:31:37Z

New page: If you let Asmodeus steal the amulet for you in the Sanctum, will he follow if you levelport? ~~~~

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If you let Asmodeus steal the amulet for you in the Sanctum, will he follow if you levelport?
[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 23:31, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

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 The Dark One has stolen the Book of the Dead from me once, even though he doesn't covet it actively. --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 07:58, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
-:Yep, the AD_SAMU attack code just calls [[Source:Ref/stealamulet#stealamulet|stealamulet]], with a 1/20 chance, if you have your quest artifact, the Amulet, or any of the invocation items.  This function just tries to steal, in order of priority, the Amulet, your quest artifact, the Bell, the Book, and the Candelabra; it doesn't distinguish what covetous properties the monster has.  I believe the amulet-stealing attack is actually independent from covetous behavior; coveting a specific item means that monsters will pick the item up off the ground, attack other monsters with the item, and have that really annoying movement pattern.  It doesn't actually give them the ability to steal the item; hence, master/arch liches can never steal anything from you, even though they're covetous, since they don't have the AD_SAMU attack.
+:Yep, the AD_SAMU attack code just calls [[Source:Ref/stealamulet#stealamulet|stealamulet]], with a 1/20 chance, if you have your quest artifact, the Amulet, or any of the invocation items.  This function just tries to steal, in order of priority, the Amulet, your quest artifact, the Bell, the Book, and the Candelabrum; it doesn't distinguish what covetous properties the monster has.  I believe the amulet-stealing attack is actually independent from covetous behavior; coveting a specific item means that monsters will pick the item up off the ground, attack other monsters with the item, and have that really annoying movement pattern.  It doesn't actually give them the ability to steal the item; hence, master/arch liches can never steal anything from you, even though they're covetous, since they don't have the AD_SAMU attack.
 :In theory you could have a non-covetous monster capable of stealing all the covetable items, but no such monster exists - only quest nemeses and the Wizard have the AD_SAMU attack. -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 10:55, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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	The Dark One has stolen the Book of the Dead from me once, even though he doesn't covet it actively. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 07:58, 18 April 2012 (UTC)		The Dark One has stolen the Book of the Dead from me once, even though he doesn't covet it actively. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 07:58, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
−	:Yep, the AD_SAMU attack code just calls [[Source:Ref/stealamulet#stealamulet\|stealamulet]], with a 1/20 chance, if you have your quest artifact, the Amulet, or any of the invocation items. This function just tries to steal, in order of priority, the Amulet, your quest artifact, the Bell, the Book, and the Candelabra; it doesn't distinguish what covetous properties the monster has. I believe the amulet-stealing attack is actually independent from covetous behavior; coveting a specific item means that monsters will pick the item up off the ground, attack other monsters with the item, and have that really annoying movement pattern. It doesn't actually give them the ability to steal the item; hence, master/arch liches can never steal anything from you, even though they're covetous, since they don't have the AD_SAMU attack. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 10:55, 18 April 2012 (UTC)	+	:Yep, the AD_SAMU attack code just calls [[Source:Ref/stealamulet#stealamulet\|stealamulet]], with a 1/20 chance, if you have your quest artifact, the Amulet, or any of the invocation items. This function just tries to steal, in order of priority, the Amulet, your quest artifact, the Bell, the Book, and the Candelabra; it doesn't distinguish what covetous properties the monster has. I believe the amulet-stealing attack is actually independent from covetous behavior; coveting a specific item means that monsters will pick the item up off the ground, attack other monsters with the item, and have that really annoying movement pattern. It doesn't actually give them the ability to steal the item; hence, master/arch liches can never steal anything from you, even though they're covetous, since they don't have the AD_SAMU attack.
		+	:In theory you could have a non-covetous monster capable of stealing all the covetable items, but no such monster exists - only quest nemeses and the Wizard have the AD_SAMU attack. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 10:55, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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	The Dark One has stolen the Book of the Dead from me once, even though he doesn't covet it actively. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 07:58, 18 April 2012 (UTC)		The Dark One has stolen the Book of the Dead from me once, even though he doesn't covet it actively. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 07:58, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
−	:Yep, the AD_SAMU attack code just calls [[~~http://nethackwiki.com/wiki/~~Source:Ref/stealamulet#stealamulet\|stealamulet]], with a 1/20 chance, if you have your quest artifact, the Amulet, or any of the invocation items. This function just tries to steal, in order of priority, the Amulet, your quest artifact, the Bell, the Book, and the Candelabra; it doesn't distinguish what covetous properties the monster has. I believe the amulet-stealing attack is actually independent from covetous behavior; coveting a specific item means that monsters will pick the item up off the ground, attack other monsters with the item, and have that really annoying movement pattern. It doesn't actually give them the ability to steal the item; hence, master/arch liches can never steal anything from you, even though they're covetous, since they don't have the AD_SAMU attack. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 10:55, 18 April 2012 (UTC)	+	:Yep, the AD_SAMU attack code just calls [[Source:Ref/stealamulet#stealamulet\|stealamulet]], with a 1/20 chance, if you have your quest artifact, the Amulet, or any of the invocation items. This function just tries to steal, in order of priority, the Amulet, your quest artifact, the Bell, the Book, and the Candelabra; it doesn't distinguish what covetous properties the monster has. I believe the amulet-stealing attack is actually independent from covetous behavior; coveting a specific item means that monsters will pick the item up off the ground, attack other monsters with the item, and have that really annoying movement pattern. It doesn't actually give them the ability to steal the item; hence, master/arch liches can never steal anything from you, even though they're covetous, since they don't have the AD_SAMU attack. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 10:55, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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	The Dark One has stolen the Book of the Dead from me once, even though he doesn't covet it actively. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 07:58, 18 April 2012 (UTC)		The Dark One has stolen the Book of the Dead from me once, even though he doesn't covet it actively. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 07:58, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
		+	:Yep, the AD_SAMU attack code just calls [[http://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Source:Ref/stealamulet#stealamulet\|stealamulet]], with a 1/20 chance, if you have your quest artifact, the Amulet, or any of the invocation items. This function just tries to steal, in order of priority, the Amulet, your quest artifact, the Bell, the Book, and the Candelabra; it doesn't distinguish what covetous properties the monster has. I believe the amulet-stealing attack is actually independent from covetous behavior; coveting a specific item means that monsters will pick the item up off the ground, attack other monsters with the item, and have that really annoying movement pattern. It doesn't actually give them the ability to steal the item; hence, master/arch liches can never steal anything from you, even though they're covetous, since they don't have the AD_SAMU attack. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 10:55, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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	The claim that only Rodney and the quest nemeses can actually steal artifacts seems to accord with the individual monster pages. Rodney and the nemeses are listed as having artifact-stealing claw attacks, the other covetous monsters aren't. -- [[User:Slandor\|Slandor]] 18:01, June 25, 2010 (UTC)		The claim that only Rodney and the quest nemeses can actually steal artifacts seems to accord with the individual monster pages. Rodney and the nemeses are listed as having artifact-stealing claw attacks, the other covetous monsters aren't. -- [[User:Slandor\|Slandor]] 18:01, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
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		+	== stealing non-coveted items ==
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		+	The Dark One has stolen the Book of the Dead from me once, even though he doesn't covet it actively. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 07:58, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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	He will not. --[[User:MisplacedPixels\|MisplacedPixels]] 19:29, 3 December 2008 (UTC)		He will not. --[[User:MisplacedPixels\|MisplacedPixels]] 19:29, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
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		+	== which monsters have stealing attacks ==
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		+	The claim that only Rodney and the quest nemeses can actually steal artifacts seems to accord with the individual monster pages. Rodney and the nemeses are listed as having artifact-stealing claw attacks, the other covetous monsters aren't. -- [[User:Slandor\|Slandor]] 18:01, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

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	If you let Asmodeus steal the amulet for you in the Sanctum, will he follow if you levelport?		If you let Asmodeus steal the amulet for you in the Sanctum, will he follow if you levelport?
	[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 23:31, 1 December 2008 (UTC)		[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 23:31, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
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		+	He will not. --[[User:MisplacedPixels\|MisplacedPixels]] 19:29, 3 December 2008 (UTC)