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		<title>Fredil Yupigo: /* Digestion attacks? */ yep</title>
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		<updated>2008-06-30T23:00:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;‎&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Digestion attacks?: &lt;/span&gt; yep&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Special:Contributions/76.10.24.2|76.10.24.2]] 15:33, 30 June 2008 (UTC)Wolfgang&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Special:Contributions/76.10.24.2|76.10.24.2]] 15:33, 30 June 2008 (UTC)Wolfgang&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:No problem. Gotta hate those worms ;) [[User:Fredil Yupigo|Fredil Yupigo]] 23:00, 30 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Fredil Yupigo</name></author>
		
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		<title>76.10.24.2: /* Move page to &quot;Delayed death&quot;? */</title>
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		<updated>2008-06-30T15:33:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;‎&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Move page to &amp;quot;Delayed death&amp;quot;?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 15:33, 30 June 2008&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l7&quot; &gt;Line 7:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::The other suggestions don't seem much better. I don't see the benefit of using a recently-invented inaccurate term over a well-established inaccurate term. &amp;quot;Delayed instadeath&amp;quot; is used by many other roguelike communities as well. Mr. Rankin's suggestion was made a little over six years ago now, and nobody, as far as I can tell, is using any of the suggested terms (even in RGRN, &amp;quot;delayed sure death&amp;quot; only crops up in that one post); that, to me, says that we should have the page under the name as it is used &amp;quot;in the wild&amp;quot;. --[[User:GreyKnight|GreyKnight]] 21:41, 3 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::The other suggestions don't seem much better. I don't see the benefit of using a recently-invented inaccurate term over a well-established inaccurate term. &amp;quot;Delayed instadeath&amp;quot; is used by many other roguelike communities as well. Mr. Rankin's suggestion was made a little over six years ago now, and nobody, as far as I can tell, is using any of the suggested terms (even in RGRN, &amp;quot;delayed sure death&amp;quot; only crops up in that one post); that, to me, says that we should have the page under the name as it is used &amp;quot;in the wild&amp;quot;. --[[User:GreyKnight|GreyKnight]] 21:41, 3 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::OK, I have edited the page to use the term &amp;quot;delayed instadeath&amp;quot; throughout, and am just about to adjust the links and attempt to move the page. [[User:Ekaterin|Ekaterin]] 10:50, 4 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::::OK, I have edited the page to use the term &amp;quot;delayed instadeath&amp;quot; throughout, and am just about to adjust the links and attempt to move the page. [[User:Ekaterin|Ekaterin]] 10:50, 4 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;== Digestion attacks? ==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;I noticed in wizard mode that a purple worm can digest you without regard to HP loss.  After a certain number of turns, you will be &amp;quot;completely digested&amp;quot; and die.  Since eel drowning attacks are included I think the digestion attacks should be included for completeness' sake.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[Special:Contributions/76.10.24.2|76.10.24.2]] 15:33, 30 June 2008 (UTC)Wolfgang&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>76.10.24.2</name></author>
		
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		<title>Ekaterin: Talk:Delayed sure death moved to Talk:Delayed instadeath: &quot;Delayed instadeath&quot; is the established term.</title>
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		<updated>2007-01-04T10:52:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Talk:Delayed_sure_death&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&quot; class=&quot;new&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Delayed sure death (page does not exist)&quot;&gt;Talk:Delayed sure death&lt;/a&gt; moved to &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Talk:Delayed_instadeath&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Delayed instadeath&quot;&gt;Talk:Delayed instadeath&lt;/a&gt;: &amp;quot;Delayed instadeath&amp;quot; is the established term.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<author><name>Ekaterin</name></author>
		
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		<title>Ekaterin at 10:50, 4 January 2007</title>
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		<updated>2007-01-04T10:50:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l6&quot; &gt;Line 6:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::[[User:Ekaterin|Ekaterin]] 13:22, 2 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::[[User:Ekaterin|Ekaterin]] 13:22, 2 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::The other suggestions don't seem much better. I don't see the benefit of using a recently-invented inaccurate term over a well-established inaccurate term. &amp;quot;Delayed instadeath&amp;quot; is used by many other roguelike communities as well. Mr. Rankin's suggestion was made a little over six years ago now, and nobody, as far as I can tell, is using any of the suggested terms (even in RGRN, &amp;quot;delayed sure death&amp;quot; only crops up in that one post); that, to me, says that we should have the page under the name as it is used &amp;quot;in the wild&amp;quot;. --[[User:GreyKnight|GreyKnight]] 21:41, 3 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::The other suggestions don't seem much better. I don't see the benefit of using a recently-invented inaccurate term over a well-established inaccurate term. &amp;quot;Delayed instadeath&amp;quot; is used by many other roguelike communities as well. Mr. Rankin's suggestion was made a little over six years ago now, and nobody, as far as I can tell, is using any of the suggested terms (even in RGRN, &amp;quot;delayed sure death&amp;quot; only crops up in that one post); that, to me, says that we should have the page under the name as it is used &amp;quot;in the wild&amp;quot;. --[[User:GreyKnight|GreyKnight]] 21:41, 3 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::::OK, I have edited the page to use the term &amp;quot;delayed instadeath&amp;quot; throughout, and am just about to adjust the links and attempt to move the page. [[User:Ekaterin|Ekaterin]] 10:50, 4 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>GreyKnight: (aside)</title>
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		<updated>2007-01-03T21:43:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;(aside)&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l5&quot; &gt;Line 5:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::When the instadeath spoiler was first posted to rgrn, Pat Rankin said: ::''&amp;quot;Delayed insta-death&amp;quot; is an oxymoron, a phrase which contradicts itself.  Please come up with some other term that isn't so absurd. '' &amp;quot;Delayed sure death&amp;quot; was the suggested alternative which I liked best.  Google Groups for &amp;quot;delayed sure death&amp;quot; in rgrn for more suggestions.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::When the instadeath spoiler was first posted to rgrn, Pat Rankin said: ::''&amp;quot;Delayed insta-death&amp;quot; is an oxymoron, a phrase which contradicts itself.  Please come up with some other term that isn't so absurd. '' &amp;quot;Delayed sure death&amp;quot; was the suggested alternative which I liked best.  Google Groups for &amp;quot;delayed sure death&amp;quot; in rgrn for more suggestions.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::[[User:Ekaterin|Ekaterin]] 13:22, 2 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::[[User:Ekaterin|Ekaterin]] 13:22, 2 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::The other suggestions don't seem much better. I don't see the benefit of using a recently-invented inaccurate term over a well-established inaccurate term. &amp;quot;Delayed instadeath&amp;quot; is used by many other roguelike communities as well. Mr. Rankin's suggestion was made a little over six years ago now, and nobody, as far as I can tell, is using any of the suggested terms; that, to me, says that we should have the page under the name as it is used &amp;quot;in the wild&amp;quot;. --[[User:GreyKnight|GreyKnight]] 21:41, 3 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::The other suggestions don't seem much better. I don't see the benefit of using a recently-invented inaccurate term over a well-established inaccurate term. &amp;quot;Delayed instadeath&amp;quot; is used by many other roguelike communities as well. Mr. Rankin's suggestion was made a little over six years ago now, and nobody, as far as I can tell, is using any of the suggested terms &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;(even in RGRN, &amp;quot;delayed sure death&amp;quot; only crops up in that one post)&lt;/ins&gt;; that, to me, says that we should have the page under the name as it is used &amp;quot;in the wild&amp;quot;. --[[User:GreyKnight|GreyKnight]] 21:41, 3 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>GreyKnight</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Delayed_instadeath&amp;diff=17437&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>GreyKnight: I disagree!</title>
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		<updated>2007-01-03T21:41:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;I disagree!&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 21:41, 3 January 2007&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l5&quot; &gt;Line 5:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 5:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::When the instadeath spoiler was first posted to rgrn, Pat Rankin said: ::''&amp;quot;Delayed insta-death&amp;quot; is an oxymoron, a phrase which contradicts itself.  Please come up with some other term that isn't so absurd. '' &amp;quot;Delayed sure death&amp;quot; was the suggested alternative which I liked best.  Google Groups for &amp;quot;delayed sure death&amp;quot; in rgrn for more suggestions.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::When the instadeath spoiler was first posted to rgrn, Pat Rankin said: ::''&amp;quot;Delayed insta-death&amp;quot; is an oxymoron, a phrase which contradicts itself.  Please come up with some other term that isn't so absurd. '' &amp;quot;Delayed sure death&amp;quot; was the suggested alternative which I liked best.  Google Groups for &amp;quot;delayed sure death&amp;quot; in rgrn for more suggestions.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::[[User:Ekaterin|Ekaterin]] 13:22, 2 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::[[User:Ekaterin|Ekaterin]] 13:22, 2 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:::The other suggestions don't seem much better. I don't see the benefit of using a recently-invented inaccurate term over a well-established inaccurate term. &amp;quot;Delayed instadeath&amp;quot; is used by many other roguelike communities as well. Mr. Rankin's suggestion was made a little over six years ago now, and nobody, as far as I can tell, is using any of the suggested terms; that, to me, says that we should have the page under the name as it is used &amp;quot;in the wild&amp;quot;. --[[User:GreyKnight|GreyKnight]] 21:41, 3 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>GreyKnight</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Delayed_instadeath&amp;diff=17413&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Ekaterin at 13:22, 2 January 2007</title>
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		<updated>2007-01-02T13:22:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 13:22, 2 January 2007&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l3&quot; &gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;For how is it &amp;quot;sure&amp;quot; if it can be averted? --[[User:Ichgucknurmal|Ichgucknurmal]] 12:08, 1 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;For how is it &amp;quot;sure&amp;quot; if it can be averted? --[[User:Ichgucknurmal|Ichgucknurmal]] 12:08, 1 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:It's most commonly known as a &amp;quot;delayed instadeath&amp;quot;, which is also technically inaccurate; I've never heard &amp;quot;delayed sure death&amp;quot; before, I assume it was invented solely for this article? I'd support moving to &amp;quot;delayed instadeath&amp;quot;, and just place a note acknowledging the contradictory nature of the name with an explanation of the history thereof, unless someone has a better idea. --[[User:GreyKnight|GreyKnight]] 20:09, 1 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:It's most commonly known as a &amp;quot;delayed instadeath&amp;quot;, which is also technically inaccurate; I've never heard &amp;quot;delayed sure death&amp;quot; before, I assume it was invented solely for this article? I'd support moving to &amp;quot;delayed instadeath&amp;quot;, and just place a note acknowledging the contradictory nature of the name with an explanation of the history thereof, unless someone has a better idea. --[[User:GreyKnight|GreyKnight]] 20:09, 1 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::When the instadeath spoiler was first posted to rgrn, Pat Rankin said: ::''&amp;quot;Delayed insta-death&amp;quot; is an oxymoron, a phrase which contradicts itself.  Please come up with some other term that isn't so absurd. '' &amp;quot;Delayed sure death&amp;quot; was the suggested alternative which I liked best.  Google Groups for &amp;quot;delayed sure death&amp;quot; in rgrn for more suggestions.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::[[User:Ekaterin|Ekaterin]] 13:22, 2 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Ekaterin</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Delayed_instadeath&amp;diff=17402&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>GreyKnight: made-up words?</title>
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		<updated>2007-01-01T20:09:01Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;made-up words?&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 20:09, 1 January 2007&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l2&quot; &gt;Line 2:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 2:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;For how is it &amp;quot;sure&amp;quot; if it can be averted? --[[User:Ichgucknurmal|Ichgucknurmal]] 12:08, 1 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;For how is it &amp;quot;sure&amp;quot; if it can be averted? --[[User:Ichgucknurmal|Ichgucknurmal]] 12:08, 1 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:It's most commonly known as a &amp;quot;delayed instadeath&amp;quot;, which is also technically inaccurate; I've never heard &amp;quot;delayed sure death&amp;quot; before, I assume it was invented solely for this article? I'd support moving to &amp;quot;delayed instadeath&amp;quot;, and just place a note acknowledging the contradictory nature of the name with an explanation of the history thereof, unless someone has a better idea. --[[User:GreyKnight|GreyKnight]] 20:09, 1 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>GreyKnight</name></author>
		
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	<entry>
		<id>https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Delayed_instadeath&amp;diff=17399&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Ichgucknurmal: Move page to &quot;Delayed death&quot;?</title>
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		<updated>2007-01-01T12:08:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Move page to &amp;quot;Delayed death&amp;quot;?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Move page to &amp;quot;Delayed death&amp;quot;? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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For how is it &amp;quot;sure&amp;quot; if it can be averted? --[[User:Ichgucknurmal|Ichgucknurmal]] 12:08, 1 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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