Talk:DevTeam - Revision history

Jonadab: Remove obsolete (pre-leak) comments about tense. See history for details.

2017-10-02T17:59:18Z

Remove obsolete (pre-leak) comments about tense. See history for details.

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	I think that we should use past tense in this article - "The DevTeam '''was''' the group of people who developed vanilla NetHack. (...)" [[User:Bulwersator\|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator\|talk]]) 16:05, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

	~~:The DevTeam '''is''' the group of people who develop'''ed''' vanilla NetHack (that's what the article also currently says). That is, they still exist.~~
	:The "develop'''ed'''" bit might be debatable. However, even if they're still developing it, they develop''ed'' it ''as we have it now'' at least. —[[User:Bcode\|Bcode]] ([[User talk:Bcode\|talk]]) 16:12, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

	I think that KMH is Kevin Hugo's "signature" in the source code. Can anyone confirm this? (It's in the code; see trap.c line 494 and wield.c line 7.) --[[User:Rampion\|Rampion]] ([[User talk:Rampion\|talk]]) 01:21, 29 August 2017 (UTC)		I think that KMH is Kevin Hugo's "signature" in the source code. Can anyone confirm this? (It's in the code; see trap.c line 494 and wield.c line 7.) --[[User:Rampion\|Rampion]] ([[User talk:Rampion\|talk]]) 01:21, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
	:That makes sense but is difficult to actually verify from outside the Dev Team. A quick survey with git blame suggests most of those KMH comments were already there before the transition to CVS in early 2002. At that time, commit histories were not preserved or converted from the previous version control system; the entire codebase was just checked in en-masse, in a series of commits by one member of the team. Consequently, the history of who checked in what when prior to 2002 is not public. Actually, if I had to guess, I would guess that the comments indicating who contributed what probably date from very early, when version control was not in use at all (because once version control was in use, it would seem significantly less necessary). So the only way to really know for sure whether a given interpretation of them is correct, would be to ask someone who has been on the Dev Team since back then. --[[User:Jonadab\|Jonadab]], 2017 October.		:That makes sense but is difficult to actually verify from outside the Dev Team. A quick survey with git blame suggests most of those KMH comments were already there before the transition to CVS in early 2002. At that time, commit histories were not preserved or converted from the previous version control system; the entire codebase was just checked in en-masse, in a series of commits by one member of the team. Consequently, the history of who checked in what when prior to 2002 is not public. Actually, if I had to guess, I would guess that the comments indicating who contributed what probably date from very early, when version control was not in use at all (because once version control was in use, it would seem significantly less necessary). So the only way to really know for sure whether a given interpretation of them is correct, would be to ask someone who has been on the Dev Team since back then. --[[User:Jonadab\|Jonadab]], 2017 October.

Jonadab at 17:45, 2 October 2017

2017-10-02T17:45:44Z

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	I think that KMH is Kevin Hugo's "signature" in the source code. Can anyone confirm this? (It's in the code; see trap.c line 494 and wield.c line 7.) --[[User:Rampion\|Rampion]] ([[User talk:Rampion\|talk]]) 01:21, 29 August 2017 (UTC)		I think that KMH is Kevin Hugo's "signature" in the source code. Can anyone confirm this? (It's in the code; see trap.c line 494 and wield.c line 7.) --[[User:Rampion\|Rampion]] ([[User talk:Rampion\|talk]]) 01:21, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
	:That makes sense but is difficult to actually verify from outside the Dev Team. A quick survey with git blame suggests most of those KMH comments were already there before the transition to CVS in early 2002. At that time, commit histories were not preserved or converted from the previous version control system; the entire codebase was just checked in en-masse, in a series of commits by one member of the team. Consequently, the history of who checked in what when prior to 2002 is not public. Actually, if I had to guess, I would guess that the comments indicating who contributed what probably date from very early, when version control was not in use at all (because once version control was in use, it would seem significantly less necessary). So the only way to really know for sure whether a given interpretation of them is correct, would be to ask someone who has been on the Dev Team since back then.		:That makes sense but is difficult to actually verify from outside the Dev Team. A quick survey with git blame suggests most of those KMH comments were already there before the transition to CVS in early 2002. At that time, commit histories were not preserved or converted from the previous version control system; the entire codebase was just checked in en-masse, in a series of commits by one member of the team. Consequently, the history of who checked in what when prior to 2002 is not public. Actually, if I had to guess, I would guess that the comments indicating who contributed what probably date from very early, when version control was not in use at all (because once version control was in use, it would seem significantly less necessary). So the only way to really know for sure whether a given interpretation of them is correct, would be to ask someone who has been on the Dev Team since back then. --[[User:Jonadab\|Jonadab]], 2017 October.

Jonadab at 17:30, 2 October 2017

2017-10-02T17:30:07Z

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	I think that KMH is Kevin Hugo's "signature" in the source code. Can anyone confirm this? (It's in the code; see trap.c line 494 and wield.c line 7.) --[[User:Rampion\|Rampion]] ([[User talk:Rampion\|talk]]) 01:21, 29 August 2017 (UTC)		I think that KMH is Kevin Hugo's "signature" in the source code. Can anyone confirm this? (It's in the code; see trap.c line 494 and wield.c line 7.) --[[User:Rampion\|Rampion]] ([[User talk:Rampion\|talk]]) 01:21, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
			:That makes sense but is difficult to actually verify from outside the Dev Team. A quick survey with git blame suggests most of those KMH comments were already there before the transition to CVS in early 2002. At that time, commit histories were not preserved or converted from the previous version control system; the entire codebase was just checked in en-masse, in a series of commits by one member of the team. Consequently, the history of who checked in what when prior to 2002 is not public. Actually, if I had to guess, I would guess that the comments indicating who contributed what probably date from very early, when version control was not in use at all (because once version control was in use, it would seem significantly less necessary). So the only way to really know for sure whether a given interpretation of them is correct, would be to ask someone who has been on the Dev Team since back then.

Rampion at 01:21, 29 August 2017

2017-08-29T01:21:16Z

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	:The DevTeam '''is''' the group of people who develop'''ed''' vanilla NetHack (that's what the article also currently says). That is, they still exist.		:The DevTeam '''is''' the group of people who develop'''ed''' vanilla NetHack (that's what the article also currently says). That is, they still exist.
	:The "develop'''ed'''" bit might be debatable. However, even if they're still developing it, they develop''ed'' it ''as we have it now'' at least. —[[User:Bcode\|Bcode]] ([[User talk:Bcode\|talk]]) 16:12, 26 November 2012 (UTC)		:The "develop'''ed'''" bit might be debatable. However, even if they're still developing it, they develop''ed'' it ''as we have it now'' at least. —[[User:Bcode\|Bcode]] ([[User talk:Bcode\|talk]]) 16:12, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

			I think that KMH is Kevin Hugo's "signature" in the source code. Can anyone confirm this? (It's in the code; see trap.c line 494 and wield.c line 7.) --[[User:Rampion\|Rampion]] ([[User talk:Rampion\|talk]]) 01:21, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Bcode: Well, they do still exist. Their activity, on the other hand, might be open for debate.

2012-11-26T16:12:28Z

Well, they do still exist. Their activity, on the other hand, might be open for debate.

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	I think that we should use past tense in this article - "The DevTeam '''was''' the group of people who developed vanilla NetHack. (...)" [[User:Bulwersator\|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator\|talk]]) 16:05, 26 November 2012 (UTC)		I think that we should use past tense in this article - "The DevTeam '''was''' the group of people who developed vanilla NetHack. (...)" [[User:Bulwersator\|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator\|talk]]) 16:05, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

			:The DevTeam '''is''' the group of people who develop'''ed''' vanilla NetHack (that's what the article also currently says). That is, they still exist.
			:The "develop'''ed'''" bit might be debatable. However, even if they're still developing it, they develop''ed'' it ''as we have it now'' at least. —[[User:Bcode\|Bcode]] ([[User talk:Bcode\|talk]]) 16:12, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Bulwersator: Suggestion - use past tense

2012-11-26T16:05:11Z

Suggestion - use past tense

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I think that we should use past tense in this article - "The DevTeam '''was''' the group of people who developed vanilla NetHack. (...)" [[User:Bulwersator|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator|talk]]) 16:05, 26 November 2012 (UTC)